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Stunning -> Doms: Dom space? (8/7/2007 12:16:56 PM)
Quick question: Do you think there is a corrollary to sub space? I know I change when I am operating in Dom mode. Often I don't realize it for a while. I know I feel different when I am dealing with friends, family, co-workers, etc. than when I am dealing wth a sub. The feeling I get manifests itself in several different ways, not the least of which is a protraction of my sadistic tendencies. I get downright cruel. I find myself in a Dom zone and there's no other way I've found to describe it. Just wondered if anyone else noticed this.

Focus50 -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 4:18:58 AM)
Yep, there's a "Dom space". But it manifests quite differently for me compared to what you describe here. It is a surreal feeling where I'm completely focused on my girl yet I feel totally relaxed to a point where hours can seemingly pass in minutes. But it is dependent on her being blissfully lost in sub-space. I can't relax and enjoy the experience if she's stressing for some reason - tis the price of being in charge. To me, dealing with "friends, family, co-workers, etc" has no special significance beyond it being everyday life, so I don't really get your point there.... Focus.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 7:44:27 AM)
"dom space" as it is generally used refers to an intense space where you lose focus on the things outside of your scene. Focus does a good job of describing it. Jack Rinnella speaks of an altered conscioiusness, a white light he has gone to only a few times and says that what we speak of as dom or sub space is only the begining. I haven't gone that far yet but I have had a couple of scenes were I really really lost myself and became something else entirely. As to feeling differently in normal vanilla places I think I know what you mean. As you become aware of power dynamics and how they are influenced you start to "see" that in everyday life. It can be pretty interesting at times.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 8:03:48 AM)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_541400/mpage_1/key_top%252Cspace/tm.htm#541409 Domspace... http://www.collarchat.com/m_392370/mpage_1/key_top%252Cspace/tm.htm#392801 Dom space? What is it? http://www.collarchat.com/m_378414/mpage_1/key_domspace/tm.htm#378441 subspace for doms? http://www.collarchat.com/m_199603/mpage_1/key_topspace/tm.htm#199646 A state of? Reposted: Pretty much anything that's been said about subspace, applies to domspace or top space. So, there's no real universal experience, there's many different types, people go into it for various reasons and through various ways and have various levels of conscious control when it occurs. I've been with tops who became hyper focused and sensitive and been with doms who might as well have been on acid.

instynctive -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 8:13:16 AM)
I enjoy My slow transistion into Domspace, starting before I even get home from work.. I am simply overwhelmed with self-confidence.. something I generally lack otherwise... it also immensely helps at work as well, dealing with clients, contractors, etc. "Movin' and shakin'"!!

Stunning -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 7:09:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael "dom space" as it is generally used refers to an intense space where you lose focus on the things outside of your scene. Focus does a good job of describing it. Jack Rinnella speaks of an altered conscioiusness, a white light he has gone to only a few times and says that what we speak of as dom or sub space is only the begining. I haven't gone that far yet but I have had a couple of scenes were I really really lost myself and became something else entirely. As to feeling differently in normal vanilla places I think I know what you mean. As you become aware of power dynamics and how they are influenced you start to "see" that in everyday life. It can be pretty interesting at times. Ok, I don't get around the community a lot and I don't talk to other doms. I just know myself and what I feel naturally. And what I experience is exactly what you describe; the focus. I was simply differentiating it from anything I feel with other people. I mention that because I am typically assertive and dominant in every facet of my life. But that dominance is very different.

ProfJoe -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 7:29:35 PM)
Hell, yes, there's a "domspace." Easier to "feel" and experience than it is to describe. Ever been an athlete? Athletes -- like runners, etc. -- get into a "zone" and, often at the same time but not for the same reasons, experience a "high," an endorphin rush. It's that: the fusion of motion with emotion and adrenalin where a synergy builds and life goes on hold. I used to race (cars). There was a moment, when it all "flowed" right, when everything occurred in slow motion ... you could be going 135 in and out of a sweeping left and it felt like you were experiencing it in slow motion; that's the "zone." I get to that spot now, not as often as I'd like, but often enough that I keep looking for it, in scenes ... complete awareness, control, and the joy that comes of it. Great stuff.

Grlwithboy -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 8:56:17 PM)
I don't get really out-of-body or anything, but everything I'm doing, even when it's complicated or risky has the feel of complete effortlessness. I'm being, not doing, what I'm doing.

Aswad -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 9:25:05 PM)
For me, so far, there's the regular mindspace, the playspace, the zone (quite akin to zanshin), and the void (fudoshin/mushin). In regular life, I employ the regular mindspace, or the zone. During play, intimacy, etc., I often switch to the playspace, or the zone. I haven't tried attaining the void without a physical threat present, so I'm reluctant to consider it in a play context without a skilled secondary. There's probably others beyond these, too, but my regular state of mind usually suffices, and tends to work rather well with people who are inclined in a particular way, though the others generate a progressively stronger response. So far, though, no psychedelic mindspaces like what SM said about Jack Rinella. Just clarity, awareness, flow, etc. and differences in where the self/other boundary is, and whether there is one. Could probably explain further, but I doubt that would be of general interest.

Grlwithboy -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 9:49:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aswad For me, so far, there's the regular mindspace, the playspace, the zone (quite akin to zanshin), and the void (fudoshin/mushin). In regular life, I employ the regular mindspace, or the zone. During play, intimacy, etc., I often switch to the playspace, or the zone. I haven't tried attaining the void without a physical threat present, so I'm reluctant to consider it in a play context without a skilled secondary. There's probably others beyond these, too, but my regular state of mind usually suffices, and tends to work rather well with people who are inclined in a particular way, though the others generate a progressively stronger response. So far, though, no psychedelic mindspaces like what SM said about Jack Rinella. Just clarity, awareness, flow, etc. and differences in where the self/other boundary is, and whether there is one. Could probably explain further, but I doubt that would be of general interest. Yep, I don't know how trancing out would work for me if I'm calling shots. Seems scarily antithetical. This is where bottoming comes in for me, others not so much.

Aswad -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 10:01:52 PM)
I'm not talking about trancing out, with the possible exception of the void (which is why I haven't tried applying it). Only the void state alters my self-restraint, and so far I have (as I said) not made a concerted effort at reaching it, though I instinctively enter that state in the presence of a genuine physical threat, whether I notice it or not. Given the lack of experimenting with it in a different context, I cannot judge whether it would be conducive to play or not, as it's pretty much an entirely different me in many ways, and much more primal. On the other hand, some martial artists (and some who engage in meditation) strive to reach a permanent state of fudoshin/mushin, and some claim to have achieved that, so it might very well be valid. "Before enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water. After enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water."

Grlwithboy -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/8/2007 10:32:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aswad I'm not talking about trancing out, with the possible exception of the void (which is why I haven't tried applying it). Only the void state alters my self-restraint, and so far I have (as I said) not made a concerted effort at reaching it, though I instinctively enter that state in the presence of a genuine physical threat, whether I notice it or not. Given the lack of experimenting with it in a different context, I cannot judge whether it would be conducive to play or not, as it's pretty much an entirely different me in many ways, and much more primal. On the other hand, some martial artists (and some who engage in meditation) strive to reach a permanent state of fudoshin/mushin, and some claim to have achieved that, so it might very well be valid. "Before enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water. After enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water." It's an interesting consideration. I don't really understand the place I go in rope. I do see something of "doing not doing" in the scene from the top well executed, and this is, for me, spiffy and ideal and I like to go there as much as I can and take as much as I can along with me. :) Your post on this is thought provoking.

atendersoul -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/9/2007 12:42:11 PM)
hmmmm....thank you for the education of this term....

theq -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/12/2007 5:21:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 It is a surreal feeling where I'm completely focused on my girl yet I feel totally relaxed to a point where hours can seemingly pass in minutes. But it is dependent on her being blissfully lost in sub-space. I can't relax and enjoy the experience if she's stressing for some reason - tis the price of being in charge. [/color][/font] Aye, add to what you described: Increased wit A pinch of evil bastard And you get what I feel. Definitely a different head space. The only thing I have experienced that comes close to it is handling a fire (figurative) as a project manager.

theq -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/12/2007 5:26:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: instynctive I enjoy My slow transistion into Domspace, starting before I even get home from work.. I am simply overwhelmed with self-confidence.. something I generally lack otherwise... it also immensely helps at work as well, dealing with clients, contractors, etc. "Movin' and shakin'"!! Aye to the confidence. I used to have an issue controlling this increased confidence so it didn't burn too hot and turn into arrogance. I am very thankful to the sub (later same person...my ex-Mistress) who helped burn that out of me...helped me bring my confidence and pride under self-control. Q

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/12/2007 10:05:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stunning Quick question: Do you think there is a corrollary to sub space? Yes. Duality abounds in nature. Master Fire

MaamJay -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/13/2007 2:21:04 AM)
Definitely a Top or Dom/me space. Not so easy to work out what hormonal changes are involved, though quite likely adrenalin and endorphins, though the result is somewhat different from subspace. More of a focus than a float! Since I go both ways, I have been in both spaces, recognise the few similarities and the more differences ... but enjoy them both! I find it easier to function in everyday life after Top space though, can take me a while after deep subspace! Maam Jay aka violet[A]

SirEbonyPhoenix -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/14/2007 6:10:08 AM)
My definition of Dom space is based on a experience I had one time while scening with a fellow Dom and three subs (one that he owns and two who were uncollared and unowned). By the time we played with the third sub, I personally began to drift off into another realm and it caused me to become physically tired. But it was quite a rush after it was over! smiles

Stunning -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/17/2007 1:01:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam Yes. Duality abounds in nature. Less is more, indeed. Thanks for the reply. I was not so much asking if it existed in fact, but if it existed to other people. I am of the opinion that cogito ergo es, though not in such a narcissistic way as that sounds.

becca333 -> RE: Doms: Dom space? (8/17/2007 9:46:58 PM)
I'd never thought of Domspace!

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