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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/2/2005 10:24:18 AM

fillepink

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that was not my "lawyer-speak"; that was my "sick of this s**t" speech. i have retired my "lawyer" self and hope i never read another case again. however, i have experience and knowledge and can sometimes raise an issue or point someone in the right direction. i'd only discuss fees in private.

i am very sorry if i seem rebellious -- and some may say what right do i have to an opinion -- but (1) arguing over the proper definition of a word that is supposedly limited in use to BDSM activities is like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...Lam explained it...more than once...are the posters just so bull-headed they cannot take His point?

(2) i do not understand the urge to label anyone else (unless they are your partner). Why are the posters who engaged in that dicussion so damned judmental? Lordy, i am just sick to death of it. There should be an atmosphere of acceptance and mutual respect..and all of you know that. So what is up with the misbehavior?

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/2/2005 10:32:00 AM

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/2/2005 10:32:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fillepink

that was not my "lawyer-speak"; that was my "sick of this s**t" speech. i have retired my "lawyer" self and hope i never read another case again. however, i have experience and knowledge and can sometimes raise an issue or point someone in the right direction. i'd only discuss fees in private.

i am very sorry if i seem rebellious -- and some may say what right do i have to an opinion -- but (1) arguing over the proper definition of a word that is supposedly limited in use to BDSM activities is like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin...Lam explained it...more than once...are the posters just so bull-headed they cannot take His point?

(2) i do not understand the urge to label anyone else (unless they are your partner). Why are the posters who engaged in that dicussion so damned judmental? Lordy, i am just sick to death of it. There should be an atmosphere of acceptance and mutual respect..and all of you know that. So what is up with the misbehavior?

fillepink

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/2/2005 10:41:39 AM

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But now, I have recieved numerous messages from other "slaves" telling me my Master is a fake, he's not a real Master, and I should drop him fast as I can.

A 'Real' Master?

Sorry, but the only 'real Master' is one like the man who is sitting in my kitchen right now. A Master Sargent in the military...<i>grin</i>

IMO all couples/relationships should grow and learn together as well as individually!

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/3/2005 8:49:54 PM

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Fundamentally this 'lifestyle" is what the individuals make it. If you and your Partner, Dom, Master, Boyfriend, Spouse whatever are happy and pursuing a common path, bless you both!

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 8:17:28 AM

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It not only isn't bad, imho, i think it's lovely. i had wanted that to happen with my ex, but it wasn't to be. As a couple moves thru life it's necessary for them to grow, as individuals and as a couple, and it's so much better when they're moving in the same direction. Hugs and best wishes..

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 10:27:32 AM

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I Think Your Relationship Is Just Fine. Dont Let Others Define Your Relationship ! Growing Togething Is What A Healthy Relationship Is About. What An Adventure to Discover This LifeStyle Together.
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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 10:42:19 AM

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Everyone was a newbie once and it always amazes me how fast some newbies can become authorities of BDSM.

IMHO If you are both consenting adults and doing things from a knowledgeable basis, (i.e. doing your homework before attemping new things) have at it! I wish you the best of luck with your journey.

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 10:47:39 AM

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No, newbie, don't let the turkeys get you down... after all, you get to pick and choose who you take abuse from... skip the strangers

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 11:37:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: Davesgirl

Ok, I wasnt intially going to post anything about this...But the more I get these messages, the more irritated and upset I get.

Is it really such a terrible thing for my Master and I, who are both brand spanking new to any sort of BDSM lifestyle and a M/s 24/7 relationship dynamic, to learn and grow together? Originally, I hadnt thought it was a bad thing at all. In fact, I thought it the best way for us to deelope. But now, I have recieved numerous messages from other "slaves" telling me my Master is a fake, he's not a real Master, and I should drop him fast as I can.

So..my question is...Is it such a vulgar idea for two people to learn, grow and a relationship develope together? Even if both people are inexperienced?

Thanks, in advance

I would ensure that you are both reading books like A Different Loving as well as others, I would also recommend that if there are beginner's workshops in your area, both attend. Go to munches and events together so you can observe and learn.

Don't worry about the naysayers, just ensure that what the two of you are doing has been researched and both of you are aware of the risks and how to minimize them.

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RE: Is this so bad.... - 7/4/2005 12:32:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyShoshin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Davesgirl

Ok, I wasnt intially going to post anything about this...But the more I get these messages, the more irritated and upset I get.

Is it really such a terrible thing for my Master and I, who are both brand spanking new to any sort of BDSM lifestyle and a M/s 24/7 relationship dynamic, to learn and grow together? Originally, I hadnt thought it was a bad thing at all. In fact, I thought it the best way for us to deelope. But now, I have recieved numerous messages from other "slaves" telling me my Master is a fake, he's not a real Master, and I should drop him fast as I can.

So..my question is...Is it such a vulgar idea for two people to learn, grow and a relationship develope together? Even if both people are inexperienced?

Thanks, in advance

I would ensure that you are both reading books like A Different Loving as well as others, I would also recommend that if there are beginner's workshops in your area, both attend. Go to munches and events together so you can observe and learn.

Don't worry about the naysayers, just ensure that what the two of you are doing has been researched and both of you are aware of the risks and how to minimize them.

Different Loving is a great book. A friend of mine that is in the lifestyle recomended that i read this one first. Since i am new to this lifestyle i enjoy reading alot and i found that some of the articles i find over the internet are great as well.