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goodgirl85 -> What happened? (8/8/2007 5:45:29 PM)

I started coming here more often then the other forums I have been on, because people seemed more open minded of different views and whatnot. It was like that for a little bit, and not only with my posts, but with others as well (and not just newbie posts) People seem to be becoming less tolerant and less openminded. I just laugh it off and go on to next post.

I find it ironic that in a lifestyle that is not fully accepted by society we would be more tolerant of everyone's view and way more openminded about trying new things and listening to peoples views that differ from ours.




kyraofMists -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 5:47:18 PM)

Nothing has happened and nothing has changed.  Most likely it is just your perception that has altered.

Expecting people here to be any different that the rest of society will set you up for disappointment.

Knight's Kyra




windchymes -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 5:49:13 PM)

We're in the summer doldrums, and we're hot, sticky and cranky.  [&o][:(][&:][:'(][:(]




goodgirl85 -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 5:50:18 PM)

thats what I thought... lol...




Phin -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 5:57:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: goodgirl85

I find it ironic that in a lifestyle that is not fully accepted by society we would be more tolerant of everyone's view and way more openminded about trying new things and listening to peoples views that differ from ours.

I thought the same thing, I posted my thoughts on it in a thread on Ask a Switch, it rolled on for 3 pages, that is unless it gets Necroposted like forum folks love to do for some reason...




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 6:02:31 PM)

It's very common- I had the wrong expectations as well.  But better you learn the reality early- hope for the best, expect the worst, be surprised when you get better.





CreativeDominant -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 6:05:40 PM)

I like windchyme's answer.  [:)]

Seriously though...people are different.  As kyra noted, the fact that we all on here share an interest in either D/s or BDSM or both...things not openly accepted by society...does not mean that within "our" group that we are all going to agree with things that are said. 

My definition of what submission is means something to me and may mean nothing to 95 out of 100 submissives or dominants reading it.  4 of the rest might think I am full of it...and 1 might agree.  The same with any other topic.  Which is why a lot of times you will see disclaimers...as noted in a special thread about disclaimers...proclaiming MOO, YMMV, or "refers to my situation and my thoughts only", etc..

And let's face it...the way that some posts or threads are stated, the poster is almost setting themselves up for a knock by being pretentious or attempting to flame certain folks/ideas right from the start.




goodgirl85 -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 6:16:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I like windchyme's answer.  [:)]

Seriously though...people are different.  As kyra noted, the fact that we all on here share an interest in either D/s or BDSM or both...things not openly accepted by society...does not mean that within "our" group that we are all going to agree with things that are said. 

My definition of what submission is means something to me and may mean nothing to 95 out of 100 submissives or dominants reading it.  4 of the rest might think I am full of it...and 1 might agree.  The same with any other topic.  Which is why a lot of times you will see disclaimers...as noted in a special thread about disclaimers...proclaiming MOO, YMMV, or "refers to my situation and my thoughts only", etc..

And let's face it...the way that some posts or threads are stated, the poster is almost setting themselves up for a knock by being pretentious or attempting to flame certain folks/ideas right from the start.


I just figure people in the lifestyle (or any other alternative lifestyle not accepted by society) would be..... less likely to flame. That we (generalized term) would have a more "okay thats your kink- this is mine". Because we know what feels like for our ideas/ways of living/thoughts/etc to be looked upon as "beneath certain people".

How many of us have to hide our lifestyle choices from our close family/friends... I for one, will never come out (again) and tell a friend about my lifestyle choices unless I know they are ok with them, no matter how open minded they seem. I have a lost what I thought was a really good friend because I did that.

LA's right though, better I learned early rather than later.




dawntreader -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 6:43:03 PM)

Just don't take anything too seriously here...




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 8:26:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: goodgirl85
How many of us have to hide our lifestyle choices from our close family/friends... I for one, will never come out (again) and tell a friend about my lifestyle choices unless I know they are ok with them, no matter how open minded they seem. I have a lost what I thought was a really good friend because I did that.

See I do it the other way round.  I don't make someone a close friend UNTIL I know they love cherish and care for ALL of me. 




leftofcenter -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 9:51:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists


Expecting people here to be any different that the rest of society will set you up for disappointment.

Knight's Kyra


Amen sister...learned that one the hard way.......




SimplyMichael -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 10:11:47 PM)

If you want to put chocolate pudding in your diapers so your dom can rub his cock in them and make you lick it clean...we are fine with that.

You want to have 14 subs and you can keep them happy, we are fine with that

You want to do blood play and then use your partners blood for anal lube, cool.

You want to come in and act like an Uber-Dom we are going to call you on your bullshit
You want to come in here and play drama queen or whine "why do the last 50 doms do X to me" we aren't going to hold your hand and cry with you we are going to call you on your own issues.

We ARE accepting of the things we SHOULD accept and we are NOT accepting of things we feel we shouldn't.

The problem comes in when some newbie can't see the truth in what we are saying, can't understand why the dear little subbie shouldn't have her hand held when what we see is an immature woman who can't face her own issues, or a dominant who hasn't a real clue as to how to be a healthy dominant wondering why he can't punish his way to a happy healthy relationship.




Stephann -> RE: What happened? (8/8/2007 10:16:05 PM)

I like to think I'm accepting of about 98% of the opinions and people here.  I don't feel a burning urge to agree, most of the time, but I do learn something about myself and others when I am forced to write my thoughts.

The 2% who I can't stand, it's usually because they engage in behavior that I consider predatorial or insincere.  It's an adult forum, and I don't feel any necessity to pull punches in that regard. 

Liberal use of that little red hand on people who you cannot stomach, may improve your experience though.

Regards,

Stephan




Rafters -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 5:10:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
You want to do blood play and then use your partners blood for anal lube, cool.


My blood is a really terrible lube.

(I've yet to try the tears of an emo)

Disclaimer: No orifices were injured in the making of this post.




kittinSol -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 5:38:42 AM)

Fascism spreads like wildfire. The good thing is, eventually we will ALL agree like one big happy family [8|].




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 5:52:53 AM)

Why would  people in the lifestyle be any different than anyone else? Everyone in and out of the lifestyle has preferences, opinions and biases. I haven't noticed anyone being any different here than they always have been.




Cyntilating -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 5:58:40 AM)

[we aren't going to hold your hand and cry with you we are going to call you on your own issues. ]

yes....perfers to be "bitchslapped with a clue-by-four"
   ...very effective...[:D]      hand holding >[:'(]
a true friend will tell you what you need to hear and not necessarily what you want to hear..




arayofsunshine55 -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 6:00:59 AM)

Being a minority does not make people more open-minded.   




ExSteelAgain -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 6:34:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: goodgirl85

I started coming here more often then the other forums I have been on, because people seemed more open minded of different views and whatnot. It was like that for a little bit, and not only with my posts, but with others as well (and not just newbie posts) People seem to be becoming less tolerant and less openminded. I just laugh it off and go on to next post.

I find it ironic that in a lifestyle that is not fully accepted by society we would be more tolerant of everyone's view and way more openminded about trying new things and listening to peoples views that differ from ours.


How dare you say the people posting here are intolerant.  You started this thread with a question. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you an idiot? What do you mean by saying that? You spelled two words wrong. You are a jerk who has no idea what D/s is all about. There are already many links to this subject. I am much smarter and better at D/s than you are. I can’t believe any Master would want a submissive who asks such questions.




velvetears -> RE: What happened? (8/9/2007 6:47:22 AM)

Being kinky doesn't mean your automatically openminded.  Openmindedness doesn't mean always agreeing with others either, which is what many people associate with being openminded.




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