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lovingdomwanted -> Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 11:19:21 AM)

Around a week ago or so ago, i fell out with my Master....He got angry about something small but I ran off into the night...When he hadn't texted over 24hrs hrs, I challenged him and he apologised but I wouldn't let it go and I got quite nasty.....Well we are talking again....Just!

Today my daughter was supposed to bring my grandson to visit me for his first birthday (I have got all the pressies,cake etc).....Well they were over two hours late and my son called them saying that they were taking the piss and where were they????? My daughter hung up.....

So I called and got a load of abuse and general stomping over the phone......

I then realised that I was the same sort of brat and that she had learned such behaviour from me.....

I then texted My Master/Ex Master and advised him that if we should ever meet again, that punishment should be swift and harsh.........

He said he would talk with me tonight but Im scared.....

What would you do as a Master?????

xxxxx




SimplyMichael -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 11:39:09 AM)

Keep you at arms length until you had gotten your shit together on your own.

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  I then realised that I was the same sort of brat and that she had learned such behaviour from me.....


He can't "fix" you, only YOU can fix you.  Realizing that you want to change isn't easy but it is far easier than actually changing. 




Padriag -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 11:40:07 AM)

You really want the truth?  Show you the door and wish you luck on growing up.  I know very few dominants personally that would put up with that kind of nasty behavior for any amount of time at all.

In your case, you seem to have had an eye opener that got your attention and showed you just what its like to be on the receiving end of that kind of behavior.  You can probably somewhat relate to just why dominants aren't inclined to tolerate it at all, its no fun is it?  On the up side, that eye opener can be a turning point in your life if you choose to make it so.  You can choose to consciously be more self aware of your behavior, take responsibility for it and its consequences and choose to start doing something about it.  You can choose to change you.  Maybe if you show that you are changing, that you are trying very hard, you'll find a dominant willing to accept that and work with you.

I can't say what this dominant will do.  That's his choice.  Me, I'd have shown you to the door and blocked your number.  He might be tempted to do the same so I suggest you make the absolute most of any second chance you might be fortunate enough to have.

And good luck.




lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:00:59 PM)

SimplyMichael(SM) and Padriag(P)....Thank You for your replies, esp  (SP) ie Michaels.......I know I have to change and I am hoping that the Master will change my behaviour....I am just dreading the procedure....

As for (P)......His behaviour on the night wasn't totally quite right  and he blew a big fuse and scared the shit out of me.....So he is not totally blameless.....But my behaviour afterwards (When I believed we were finished and I later found out we weren't) is not on and so I will take such punishment as deemed....However....Glad I don't know you....You are not at all forgiving.......Have you heard of mutual planning and respect?...... New concept to you? No Doubt....Try it, it can work....... and when a sub is in the wrong and admits it....Why show her the door??? To truly love a sub, a Dom must show her the error of her ways and punish her accordingly and so she loves her Dom for it


xxxx




Level -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:04:31 PM)

Wow.......
 
"Mutual respect"......... I'm sure Padriag is familiar with the idea, but not everyone has a desire to have a brat around. And just how well acquainted with "respect" are you when you are being "bratty"?




Grlwithboy -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:04:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lovingdomwanted

......His behaviour on the night wasn't totally quite right  and he blew a big fuse and scared the shit out of me.....


So we have two people who probably have some stuff to work on if they want an adult rel.





lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:15:48 PM)

Sweetie, I'm not normally a brat.....But on this occassion, I was an Utter Brat and freely admit it but it took me a while to realise I had been so and wish to be punished for it.......

xxxxx




lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:17:26 PM)

Oh Yes....Sorry, I have respect for everyone I meet.......
xx




lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:31:12 PM)

Prehaps Level.....when you chose to show you profile, we can see who you are?????........Why are you just be here to talk on forums???? Are you afraid of something/someone......Or just a second profile to slag someone off on the forums without getting caught?????




ownedgirlie -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:36:10 PM)

Is this the behavior you exhibited to your dominant? 

I am not seeing any evidence here of respecting everyone you meet.  You have asked a question and people have taken the time to give you their honest opinions. Michael is right - fixing the problem is much more difficult than realizing you have it in the first place.

I wish you luck.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:42:09 PM)

If you ran off into the night away from Me...I'd tell you to keep running.  Most assuredly you would never have gotten an apology out of Me.  More than likely I would not have accepted one from you.

I like to think that I would never let a situation get that far...you'd have gotten the belt long before the situation reached that level of intensity.  But if it did...that's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned.




Padriag -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:46:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lovingdomwanted

SimplyMichael(SM) and Padriag(P)....Thank You for your replies, esp  (SP) ie Michaels.......I know I have to change and I am hoping that the Master will change my behaviour....I am just dreading the procedure....

He can't change it, he can only encourage that change... its you that ultimately has to change your own behavior.  Try re-reading what both Michael and myself said... you have to do the changing yourself.

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However....Glad I don't know you....You are not at all forgiving.......Have you heard of mutual planning and respect?...... New concept to you? No Doubt....Try it, it can work....... and when a sub is in the wrong and admits it....Why show her the door??? To truly love a sub, a Dom must show her the error of her ways and punish her accordingly and so she loves her Dom for it

A very predictable response from a brat.  In your post you stated you asked this dom to be swift and harsh in his punishment.  You came here asking for answers and what you got from me was a swift and harsh reply... now look at how you reacted, in true brat fashion.  You didn't like what I had to say, but rather than accepting it for the honest answer it was, you chose to respond with insults... you retaliated.  You asked why I would show such a brat the door, you just answered your own question.  Ask yourself would any dom want to deal with this from a supposed submissive?  Think about it.

I gave you some good advice in my reply, about change and how to go about it.  You might want to review and consider it.  Dominants are not here to clean up your life for you, its not the job of the dominant to fix what's wrong with you... as a human being that is your responsibility.  If you make yourself unpleasant to be around, then why should anyone want to be around you?  If you make yourself difficult to deal with, why should anyone want to deal with you?  Did you think a dominant was some sort of free therapist? 

So here's the door dearheart, and good luck with growing up.




came4U -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:48:54 PM)

sorry, I am not Domme, but I understand.

My daughter claimed to me one day after she had a bad day at work 'ya, I have a temper' as if she was bragging.  I thought hmm she must get that from her father, lol then I realized..oh oh, the apple don't fall far from the tree.  It is also from me. 

I prefer not to show my temper, for many years now. I tend to swing my mood towards another direction via distraction now. But, when it comes to if I had a man? a Dom?

I doubt at all anyone can fix me except me. 

What you did, can be forgiven if he chooses, but punishment in this case should be to make you think about your own actions.  No need to mix negative behaviour with intent to keep a D/s relationship of him giving you immediate punishment to rid you of guilt and shame for your behavior.  It might only be a bandaid to give you both instant relief without actually confronting the real issue.  That real issue of you   dismissmissing him without forethought  and then came back with like hellfire because you were 'ready' to confront an issue.

You don't deserve punishment.  You deserve a time out to think or write.

Be glad I am not a Domme lol. 




lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:56:43 PM)

I am sorry, I thought you were directly getting at me for some reason, even though I have no knowledge of you as a Master.....However, I will direct my Master to your comments....




rollinonward05 -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:57:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingdomwanted

Prehaps Level.....when you chose to show you profile, we can see who you are?????........Why are you just be here to talk on forums???? Are you afraid of something/someone......Or just a second profile to slag someone off on the forums without getting caught?????


I have many friends on these forums that dont' have a active profile. So what? That is their business for whatever reason. Many are not looking for a Dom or sub just enjoy being able to join in on the topics in these forums. There  is nothing wrong with that at all. So just get over it :)




Padriag -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 12:58:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: came4U

sorry, I am not Domme, but I understand.

My daughter claimed to me one day after she had a bad day at work 'ya, I have a temper' as if she was bragging.  I thought hmm she must get that from her father, lol then I realized..oh oh, the apple don't fall far from the tree.  It is also from me. 

I prefer not to show my temper, for many years now. I tend to swing my mood towards another direction via distraction now. But, when it comes to if I had a man? a Dom?

I doubt at all anyone can fix me except me. 

I think you do indeed understand and had the OP showed half as much sense she'd have gotten very different responses.  Your's is an attitude a dominant can work with.  You're not avoiding responsibility for yourself, you accept it.  Someone who accepts responsibility for themselves, and that includes the responsibility of making changes, is someone that can be helped by others.  Until someone reaches that point, trying to help them is likely to be wasted effort, an exercise in futility... which is exactly why I show brats the door.




lovingdomwanted -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 1:00:23 PM)

Speaks Volumes....Kind Sir

x




Tinman1960 -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 1:01:55 PM)

While punishment is in order, the exact type is in questin as it depends on the submissive. Some bennifit from a spanking, some from being forced to serve more and more often, while others would bennfit more from being ignored. I prefer not to ignor often as most "brats" really need and are crying out for love and attention - at least those I have known. Punishment with love and followed by lots of attention goes a long way in solving most brat prblems - if one has the time to invest...Guess it depends on if the sub/slave is worth the trouble.




came4U -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 1:03:24 PM)

She did say she wants punishment.


why give her what she wants? a quick fix?

Hell no.

Time to grovel, feel bad, sit in the pile of lonliness and isolation THAT behaviour causes.

<will work for punishment.





BitaTruble -> RE: Hope To Cope With An Utter Brat? (8/12/2007 1:10:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingdomwanted

I am sorry, I thought you were directly getting at me for some reason, even though I have no knowledge of you as a Master.....However, I will direct my Master to your comments....


It really sucks when Masters don't do exactly what we want them to do, doesn't it, Ma'am.

Celeste




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