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instynctive -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 9:06:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple

I reiterate for those of you who are new, don't let this site intimidate you.  The only knot one really needs 99.5% of the time is a square knot. 



I'm a huge fan of the clove hitch too.. easy enough to tie, easy enough to untie, and it's fully adjustable once it's tied (to a bedpost or spreader bar).





earthycouple -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 9:08:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: instynctive

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple

I reiterate for those of you who are new, don't let this site intimidate you.  The only knot one really needs 99.5% of the time is a square knot. 



I'm a huge fan of the clove hitch too.. easy enough to tie, easy enough to untie, and it's fully adjustable once it's tied (to a bedpost or spreader bar).





And now we know the other 0.5%  *S*  I presume it is similar if not identical to a half hitch?  *going to google or Bearlee's link*



earthycouple -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 9:11:28 AM)

hmm Ok, just found the clove...not like a half hitch exactly but appears to serve a very similar purpose.  I typically use a half hitch for my "bed post" ties and when I'm ready to secure more fully I use a 1.5 hitch to keep it secure.  (Those really aren't knots though)  The clove...hmm...I don't think it is truly a knot either...but that's not really relevant as to whether it does the job!



Dnomyar -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 11:59:53 AM)

You can tie a person without useing any knotts. One great thing about bondage is that there are so many ways to tie.



earthycouple -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 1:24:33 PM)

sure if you want to cut off circulation or make it totally and easily escapable.  Ya gotta have a square knot here and there to ensure the rope doesn't tighten too much.  For example a bola bola will tighten right up without a square knot to hold it and that defeats the purpose.



givemyall -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 1:31:01 PM)

Donna, next time I go sailing, you have an invite.... jeez you know your stuff [:)]



earthycouple -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 3:08:46 PM)

Oh no no no....I can't do anything with sailing...that does require knots doesn't it? 

I could pull the rope I suppose but then I'd get all hot and gooey thus rendering myself useless to you *S* (at least for sailing)



e01n -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 5:48:30 PM)

Another point about the choice of line: MFP works well for this because it's a solidly braided cord that doesn't have much give. Twisted fibers such as nylon, hemp, flax (Caveat Emptor: flax is often sold as hemp here in the US) have much the same advantage - it doesn't slip too much within itself.

Most parachute cord and cheaper ropes are a braid over a solid fiber core. There's slip and play and in general not much to endear it for applications where force can be used against it. And cotton rope is just disgusting...

And yes, sailing requires a good knowledge of lots of knots...

I'm inspired - I'm going to use my downtime tonight to draw a manga tutorial on how to tie someone up... ;) And I'll try to keep it very kawaii...



earthycouple -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 5:50:47 PM)

Anime for Shibari....excellent!

very good points about MFP but I'm an MFP junkie *S*  very very biased, I am.




missfrillypants -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 5:59:27 PM)

i love it! kawaii little characters going "hey! here's how you tie a person up!"

XD
i'd like to see that.



e01n -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 6:09:27 PM)

Hey - it's pure 4chan/7chan Rule 34... ;)

(holds up the two fingers and gives the wink!)



ViceVersa -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 7:48:20 PM)

Links I use/recommend in addition to sites already mentioned:

Tutorials
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=twistedmonkcom
http://www.encordees.com/pas_menu.html
http://www.japanrope.com/tutorial.html
http://mehere.free.fr/alamut/3-shibari/manuels/menottes_heretique.html

Artistic Sites - more for ideas, although the actual ties may be impractical
http://ropemagic.art.coocan.jp/
http://kinbaku.free.fr/index_.html
http://www.shibariartphotography.com/html/projectvision.html

Additional Training I'd Like to Attend
http://www.shibaricon.com/
http://www.ropedojo.com/

Podcast
http://rope.podshow.com/


Vice



Ysabol -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 9:40:34 PM)

You just broke the number 1 rule of 4chan...NEVER mention 4chan!!!!
[:-]

If you get that tutorial done, I would definitly be interested in seeing it.



Ysabol -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/14/2007 9:43:50 PM)

Miss earthycouple,

Do you know some good/cheap places to buy MFP? Currently my Daddy is using two different kinds of rope - one I like, which he says is Diamond Braid White Nylon, and the other is normal Polypropelene, which he removes the core from. However, I'm VERY interested in MFP, but I have no idea where to purchase any from.



ViceVersa -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 5:32:07 AM)

Hi Ysabol,

I've bought MFP from http://rainbowrope.com/all.html .

I came across this list of rope suppliers on ds arts: http://www.ds-arts.com/Resources/RR_Rope_Suppliers.html

Vice



clearshooter -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 7:40:48 AM)

Got into this conversation late, but here's a couple of resources that have been helpful to me.  Jim Wiseman "Erotic Bondage Book" is available used from Amazon and this website has some good basic ideas for using rope:  http://www.ropefashions.com/index.php



e01n -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 10:52:11 AM)

Buying MFP: It's pretty common to find in lots of places, but most notably outdoor supply stores. Gander Mtn., Galyan's, Dick's, TSC, Rural King and your handy local army surplus store... I say this, because I'm all about touching the rope first and inspecting it before even dropping a penny on it, much less tying someone up in it.

Rainbowrope has good recommendations from people I trust enough to tie me up in it, but I've never used them.

The DS Arts list is also a good place to look for howtos...

And the kawaii tutorial's in process - meeting my ol' school geeks at GenCon for b'fast went later than we'd expected. Much perving over pictures of someone in a red corset and tartan skirt... <sigh> and it's making it difficult to properly draw Hello Kitty topping Chococat. ;)

Re: 4chan - whatever. It's a fun place to find stupid shit, but that's about it.



LordMasterNSir -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 1:08:59 PM)

As a switch I will have to try this with some f when I want to get to subspace for a change.



Cuffkinks -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 1:37:12 PM)

Lots of good info here. Thanks.
I have MUCH to do.



sunnydays -> RE: tried the rope and love it (8/15/2007 5:00:00 PM)

another good resourse for learnign to tie knots is another website called hogtied...they have a free hardcore section wehre you can look at snippits of clips.. i remember seeing afew months back a few on basic rope tying techniqies..and not just limbs but hair as well



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