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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 7:41:47 PM   
MistresSplash


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interesting subject because I got the feeling it being the other way around. ive had many wanting to live in cause they have no place to go and yes it should be fun for both but as a sinlge mother its hard enough today to take care of my own let alone another. maybe i shouldnt have any live ins gives me some thing to think about

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 7:44:18 PM   
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Shoot, I moved in to my partner's place very soon after meeting because I had no place to go and would lose my job if I didn't go. I figure that as long as both parties are working at keeping the household running and both parties contribute to the rent and upkeep of the property that there is nothing wrong with it.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 7:48:17 PM   
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quote:

Im not stereotyping trying to stereotype


Actually you did just that, as Chris pointed out. But you can redeem yourself. Try to think of something constructive to post.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 7:56:55 PM   
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quote:

Supply and demand.

Thier pussy is a gold mine yanno :p


My pussy is a temple, not a gold mind. I don't let just anyone in. I am very selective.

Supply and demand goes right out the window for me. If I can't find a man (or a woman for that matter) worthy of my time, I have a vibrator and a vivid imagination to get me through it.

I don't give a rat's ass how much money a boy has in the bank. I do care that he has a certain amount of pride, ambition and wants to do something with his life. I have had my share of wealthy men and never, ever have I taken advantage of them or their money. That's not my style. I am really, really , REALLY fucking getting sick of this stereotype.

And no Gemeni, my *pissed-off*ness is not directed at you. I know you were being sarcastic with your post. It was just a trigger so move a little to the left as not to get splattered. ;)

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:02:36 PM   
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Ah Frozen Jello, Can I have some ...............pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssseeeeeeeee?

Actually I have some frozen Hershey and Snickers Bars. Totally not supposed to have them but what the heck.

As for Golddiggers, it is like this, there are some out there. I read one of a 19 yera old Professional Domme. It's about her, pay her tribute, yadda yadda yadda. And of course there are the the "Gimme the Bitches" Doms out there who just want a quick one and fall asleep. I also do believe that most of the D/s relationships are based on both people working in the vanilla world and that they live the lifestyle at home. There may be exception, but I for one will not have a sit at home subbie. I want her to work like I do (I have this whole respect thing going that I can't seem to shake loose). Without the respect and of course the trust, I cannot be in any sort of relationship, my quirck I guess.

I think I'll step to the side now as LadyAngelika has suggested and let the Dommes take over the grilling.

<stepping aside with a wide grin)

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:05:37 PM   
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Ah Frozen Jello, Can I have some ...............pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssseeeeeeeee?



Sure, and the jello is sugar-free and fat-free (and pretty much everything else-free too) so it's not so bad for you!

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:07:21 PM   
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After losing 100 pounds, yup cut out the junk, I indulge the forbidden fruits every now and again.

Sugar free and fat free Jello, I've had that it is good, especially frozen.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:10:14 PM   
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I have always eaten the sugar-free. I am hypo-something and I can't have sugar so I have always eaten everything sugar-free

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:15:55 PM   
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I also do believe that most of the D/s relationships are based on both people working in the vanilla world and that they live the lifestyle at home.


And some of us manage to blend in a bunch of other things and blur the lines. I'm not lifestyle nor vanilla. I'm simply me.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:16:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: siamsa24
I had no place to go and would lose my job if I didn't go.


How would you lose your job may I ask?

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:37:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: maddog86

Hello,

I been looking through the Dominant Female profiles and it seems now that all the Females who are looking for Male Subs need to pay a tribute of some sort, and all the ones that are looking for Female Subs dont require one. Now I may be wrong, but I highly doubt it. I think alot of these "Mistress's" are looking for free money... Well Im not paying! I allow you to dominate and use my body and mind, not pay your bills! I thought this was suppose to be fun for both partys, and since it is fun for both partys, why do we need to put money into the equation? Are the ones asking for a tribute "Gold diggers looking for a quick buck, or Mistress's who just dont wanna work? " Just something to think about!

-Casey



A Dominant has her every day wardrobe and her Dominant wardrobe, I thought for fun, I would compare the cost of dressing a Domme and dressing a Dom. I used my favorite online auction source which is generally better priced than retail stores.
FemDomme
[Size=2]new sexy black thigh high stiletto heel boots c $198.68
Fetish 2 buckle platform shoe with 5 inch stiletto heel c $120.94
Red pvc thigh boots with 5.25" stiletto heel c $112.15
Gold satin corset designer heels shoes stiletto c $85.68
Sexy lingerie, beautiful 4 piece red set c $65.95
Black pvc laced front lingerie suspender belt c $54.95
White french suspender/bra/pantie/stockings c $68.17
Traditional unique steel boned corset hand made c $186.91
Lace trimmed genuine leather teddy c $62.03
Leather corset steel boned& lined retail $365
Strapless leather hook-n-eye mini dress c $117.91
Mistress hobble black pvc dress c $103.35
Satin boned long corset gown w/sequins c $89.41
Black genuine leather mini skirt w/ zipper l c $74.45
Pvc nurses uniform & matching stockings c $68.15
5 pc. Police costume free g string c $62.49
Catwoman costume 3pc c $68.29
Back seam stockings ~ sheer nylon ~ thigh high c $4.92 (only good for 2 - 3 wearings)
Designer nylon stockings - black c $3.30 (good for 2-3 wearings)
Bra/thong c $31.03
Latex stockings c $94.38
Sheer almost nude hicut panties c $22.35
6 thongs with embroidered roses c $22.34
Black leather purse/ new/ c $93.13
Soft premium leather long coat c $98.95



Manicure with polish or buff finish - $20 / 25 min. Once a month at least
Pedicure with polish or buff finish - $35 / 40 min. Once a month at least
Wash & trim for short hair starts at about $15-$20 (every 6 weeks) long hair can be $25 or more.
Home hair color for long hair $33 aprox every 6 weeks
I won't even bother getting into the cost of cosmetics, body lotions, perfumes and exfolients or jewellry


Male dom (who often use items from their every day wardrobe)
New! Chain mail shirt renaissance c $99.28
High buckled boots c $109.27
New blk loafer $ 89.99
2 pack men's mens boxer briefs underwear c $7.44 x 3
Genuine buffalo leather motorcycle jacket c $18.63
New leather vest retail $79.99
Leather 5 pocket pant new c $112.15
Short sleeve shirt fetish c $38.50
6 pair keneth jones black acrylic men's dress socks new c $9.79
Hair cut $13 every 6 weeks


Even if you throw in a man's pedicure, i think you see my point. It costs a lot more to look like a domme than it does to look like a dom.

We wear what makes us feel sexy, but face it, we dress to attract the eyes of the male submissives or to put a smile on the face of the one we have.

So, while some of us don't ask for tribute, i can certainly see why some do.


< Message edited by LadyShoshin -- 7/4/2005 8:41:47 PM >


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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:37:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: maddog86
I been looking through the Dominant Female profiles and it seems now that all the Females who are looking for Male Subs need to pay a tribute of some sort, and all the ones that are looking for Female Subs dont require one. Now I may be wrong, but I highly doubt it. I think alot of these "Mistress's" are looking for free money... Well Im not paying! I allow you to dominate and use my body and mind, not pay your bills! I thought this was suppose to be fun for both partys, and since it is fun for both partys, why do we need to put money into the equation? Are the ones asking for a tribute "Gold diggers looking for a quick buck, or Mistress's who just dont wanna work? " Just something to think about!

Your rant has been seen here way too often.
You should thank any woman who is courteous and honest enough to tell you upfront what she wants from you, and therefore giving you the full disclosure as to what you would be getting into, should you proceed.

I was going to yawn at the lack of originality, but looked at your profile and since you're so young, and a cutie, I'll agree with Lady A and say you will have a chance to redeem yourself if you stop posting statements sounding like you hate all women just because you've been pissed off by some women..
Welcome to the boards.. M

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:52:59 PM   
LadyAngelika


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A Dominant has her every day wardrobe and her Dominant wardrobe


The clothes do not make the Domme. Unless of course she needs to look the part of a ProDomme and then, well, she can work that into her pricing.

I have some fetish clothes, sure. I enjoy wearing them. But that is not what makes me dominant. I can be dominant in jeans, a t-shirt and my bare hands.

Also, I don't expect my boys to pay for my wardrobe. If I want a piece of fetish clothing, I go out and buy it myself. If we have been together a while and they want to buy me something because they know I would enjoy it and they would enjoy seeing me in it, then great. But I don't bank on it and I don't go around asking for tributes, that's just plain tacky in my opinion.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 8:59:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: imtempting

quote:

ORIGINAL: siamsa24
I had no place to go and would lose my job if I didn't go.


How would you lose your job may I ask?



I had to leave my dormitory for the summer and had no place to go and if I am not in the area I cannot go to work and would therefore lose my job. I think that is the case everywhere.......


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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/4/2005 11:03:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

quote:

A Dominant has her every day wardrobe and her Dominant wardrobe


The clothes do not make the Domme. Unless of course she needs to look the part of a ProDomme and then, well, she can work that into her pricing.

I have some fetish clothes, sure. I enjoy wearing them. But that is not what makes me dominant. I can be dominant in jeans, a t-shirt and my bare hands.

Also, I don't expect my boys to pay for my wardrobe. If I want a piece of fetish clothing, I go out and buy it myself. If we have been together a while and they want to buy me something because they know I would enjoy it and they would enjoy seeing me in it, then great. But I don't bank on it and I don't go around asking for tributes, that's just plain tacky in my opinion.

- LA


I agree, LA, and I don't ask for tributes, either. However, I am taking this OP in conjunction with his profile as in:

quote:

fantasy of being kidnapped, stripped naked and hogtied, then used for anything from footworship, to objectification, spankings, suspension, being put in cages. I want to try mummifation so much! I want to be collared and leash, have shackles on my arms and legs as I am there naked kneeling before the mistress. Not really looking for something in 24/7 but if I really like you it could turn into that if you want it also.
It doesnt have to be sexual, I just want to be tied up and used as you see fit!


I apologize for using a portion of the OP's profile here, but I feel it proves the point that Lady Shoshin was trying to make. And these are the unfortunate expectations of many boys who complain about having to pay for anything.
This boy (and many others) want all these things. Collar and leash (probably no biggie)
chains, shackles, cages, mummification, suspension equipment...who pays for all that? Many of Us probably have some of these things, and a Pro might have most or all of it. Fortunately this boy has a hard limit with anal, so I wouldn't have to require him to purchase his own dildo or worry about using My strap-on. I am a part time Pro and I am clear that I do not have a dungeon. But this boy has no interest in a Pro. He is admittedly young, and honest about his income, with good plans for his future career. But I doubt he can pay for the many items he wants to fulfill his fantasies. Fantasies, which are probably based upon the BDSM porn he has been finding on the internet. In fact, the impression I have is that he is insulted at the idea of having to consider paying for anything.
So if I *were* to take him on as a *free* play session, just because I think he's cute, and I can handle having *him* use *Me* to fulfill his fantasies (which may be quite temporary),I would also bet he would be very disappointed if I didn't answer the door in full Dominatrix regalia.
I am not even sure what a typical tribute amount might be. Probably there is no typical tribute amount. But I'm guessing it is nowhere near the cost of investing in the fetish equipment he wants to be able to use, and probably not as much as a regular Professional fee? If I am wrong, Ladies, or gentlemen, please let Me know.
P.S. I forgot about the SUV I would need to borrow to safely fulfill his kidnap fantasy. But if I could borrow that, I would probably only need to be about $10 or $15 out of pocket for the gas.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/5/2005 12:18:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika



The clothes do not make the Domme. Unless of course she needs to look the part of a ProDomme and then, well, she can work that into her pricing.

I have some fetish clothes, sure. I enjoy wearing them. But that is not what makes me dominant. I can be dominant in jeans, a t-shirt and my bare hands.

Also, I don't expect my boys to pay for my wardrobe. If I want a piece of fetish clothing, I go out and buy it myself. If we have been together a while and they want to buy me something because they know I would enjoy it and they would enjoy seeing me in it, then great. But I don't bank on it and I don't go around asking for tributes, that's just plain tacky in my opinion.

- LA


Well I agree. I don't care what clothing they wear. Fetish clothing to me is something certain people have thought up as maybe a way to make money originally. Jeans and a shirt is more then ok for me.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/5/2005 2:14:09 AM   
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Ok, you guys are not going to make any kind of good impression calling women bitches, even if they are a well bred man let alone submissive wouldn't resort to calling women he didn't like bitches as an insult. If they wantt o be refered like that, Ie bitch goddess or something fine, more power to her. But it's not attractive nor a good selling point to call women you don't like obsenities.

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/5/2005 6:08:30 AM   
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And these are the unfortunate expectations of many boys who complain about having to pay for anything.


And? Do you feel obliged to do this? I'm sure you don't Dusty. When I come across a *do-me* profile, I click next. I figure they will pay for it at some point, but not with me.

As I said, ProDomme is something else. I am not a ProDomme. I do not require tributes. What I require is respect, honesty, an open mind and desire to submit... for starters ;)

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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/5/2005 6:23:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: maddog86

Hello,

I been looking through the Dominant Female profiles and it seems now that all the Females who are looking for Male Subs need to pay a tribute of some sort, and all the ones that are looking for Female Subs dont require one. Now I may be wrong, but I highly doubt it.



"All?" Uh, yes, you are wrong. It's not all.

quote:



I think alot of these "Mistress's" are looking for free money... Well Im not paying! I allow you to dominate and use my body and mind, not pay your bills! I thought this was suppose to be fun for both partys, and since it is fun for both partys, why do we need to put money into the equation? Are the ones asking for a tribute "Gold diggers looking for a quick buck, or Mistress's who just dont wanna work? " Just something to think about!



Nobody is asking -you- to pay. Believe it or not, there are some submissives, mostly male, whose preferred "kink" is financial enslavement. Some Dom/mes are in to that from their end, others are not. There is nothing wrong with satisfying a need just because it lines a pocket.

As for it being "fun" for both parties, when/if you find a Dominant whose attitude/beliefs/kinks match up with yours, you both will be satisfied. As to "fun" - it sounds as if you are mostly about the sex/kink, the "What's in it for me?" theory.

Well, sex and kink are fine and dandy, but you should make it clear that you are not looking to serve the needs of another, but satisfy your own.

sudja


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RE: Gold Diggers Looking for a Quick Buck, Or Lazy Mist... - 7/5/2005 6:24:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: maddog86

Look Im sorry if I offended the non-fake dommes and the like, I just wanted to put "my two cents in." Im not stereotyping trying to stereotype, Ive just had a real hard time looking for someone other then a "bitch" that only wants money.


Well it still sounds like you just want a "bitch" who will help you get your rocks off. How is that any better?

sudja

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