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mnottertail -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:35:17 PM)
This is gonna piss of Jehovahs witnesses I bet. I AM.

Rule -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:41:56 PM)
I am Rule [;)]

NorthernGent -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:43:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule I am Rule [;)] What's your Muslim equivalent?

mnottertail -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:45:32 PM)
Rulah.

Rule -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:46:42 PM)
[:D] lol

NorthernGent -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:49:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Rulah. Is he God, the god?

mnottertail -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:51:54 PM)
S'hma Y'sreal, Adoni elhaynu Adoni echod. Bring on the God of Confusion and War, He that is Odin. let's get a real shit slinger going and find out just which one of these clowns is the real almighty. Line up for Armageddon, you wasted souls!!!!! LOL. Rev. Ron Melby (church of Jesus Christ what's happenin' now?)

kittinSol -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 1:57:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EPGAH It's not a "phobia", when they really ARE out to kill you! Please ask Sweden how "peaceful" their new Moslem "guests" are: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Moslems+rob+Sweden We have Mexicans AND Moslems to bother us, the rest of the world "just" has to worry about that crazy cult... Are they out to get me? You must have heard something I haven't. Oh, I see... you meant 'yourself'. Well, that would make much more sense. I feel sorry for you, but hey... we all have our cross to bear.

NorthernGent -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:02:25 PM)
Are we talking gods, nymphs or gins? Rulah, can you shed some light on this matter?

EPGAH -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:07:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Bring on the God of Confusion and War, He that is Odin. let's get a real shit slinger going and find out just which one of these clowns is the real almighty. Line up for Armageddon, you wasted souls!!!!! LOL. mnottertail makes it sound like a videogame, albeit a GREAT one; one I'd like to play sometime... See Warlords BattleCry series and/or the earlier POPULOUS?

FullCircle -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:08:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy You know... As I think more of this... Wouldn't we be better off if all women wore burkas as not to offend Islamics Wouldn't we be better off if we killed all homosexuals and women who have sex with anyone except the husband chosen for her by her parents as not to offend Islamics? Wouldn't we be better to remove the clitoris from all women, lest they enjoy sex and thus offend Islamics. Wouldn't we be better off not educating women past the 6th grade as to not offend Islamics Wouldn't we be better off by limiting free speech that would otherwise offend Islamics? Ya know... the whole world and all of its people would be better off submitting to the will of allah come to think of it. Isn't that actually the text book definition for Islam, submission to allah? Doen't Islam mean literally mean submission in Arabic? Yes yes... to ensure peace we should all convert Islam! Except for Jews and Blacks who according to Islam are inferrior. They can't really convert can they? They will have to be put to death in the new Islamic world. Don’t confuse religion and backwards societies. The Koran is open to interpretation as all religious texts are. I'm also wondering why the fear? No I'm not because I know the fear is from ignorance. There will never be a new Islamic world mainly because humans are prone to imperfections and therefore incapable of following hard line doctrines for any long period of time. We can’t even stop people from binge drinking so how is the no alcohol rule going to be adopted? Fear not because there are more lazy selfish people than there are visionary idealists in this world.

mnottertail -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:09:10 PM)
nope, but I was in some actual dust-ups in my yout.

EPGAH -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:18:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: EPGAH It's not a "phobia", when they really ARE out to kill you! Please ask Sweden how "peaceful" their new Moslem "guests" are: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Moslems+rob+Sweden We have Mexicans AND Moslems to bother us, the rest of the world "just" has to worry about that crazy cult... Are they out to get me? You must have heard something I haven't. Oh, I see... you meant 'yourself'. Well, that would make much more sense. I feel sorry for you, but hey... we all have our cross to bear. Their cult has a very simple duality: If you're not a Moslem (And in some sects, if you're not an ARAB Moslem), then you're an "infidel". They can force you to pay jizya (Protection tax, money charged just to "let" you continue existing...sound familiar?), and they can rob, rape, or kill you anyways, since you're "just" an infidel, you don't matter...infidel=subhuman/target! In some places, of course, they maintain lip-service to their cult, but have put the other tenets aside, through neglect, or from seduction by the virtues/vices of more secular life, including, in random order: Money, air-conditioning, electricity/electronics, medical-technology, trade, social acceptability, and other trappings of civilized life OUTSIDE a crazed death-cult...And in others, they take and pervert our technologies to find more efficient ways to kill the "infidels"--cellphone-triggered bombs, E-Mail coordination of terrorist strikes, etc. Edit to add: Oh, and they are seeming MASTERS of media-manipulation, putting their worst secrets amid areas where a strike will cause HORRIBLE collateral death, thereby painting the vengeful Americans as "aggressors" against the "defenseless" Moslems--and more recently, they want American tax-money to fund madrassas--quite a coup for them: No more worries of being caught at the airport, or any applicable import-tariffs on bomb-components! Train future terrorists with anti-American rhetoric HERE and have us PAY for it to boot! Oh, but be sure to put a "multiculturalist" sheen on it, so it'll be easy for unaware Americans to swallow!

FullCircle -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:28:18 PM)
quote: Ali Dashti comments: "Stories like this are in Swedish newspapers every week. Swedish media usually take great care not to mention the ethnic background of the perpetrators, but you can usually read it between the lines." Sensationalist Bullshit < middle line. Journalism

Zensee -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 2:48:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Actually.. he's called Fred. No She isn't. Z.

EPGAH -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 3:10:44 PM)
Another possible angle: Could this "mitigation" and "compromise" of our religion have sprung forth from what appears to be the Global Political Correctness Movement? (And shows no signs of stopping yet) Politeness IS a good thing, but this takes it to extremes, and complicates things: "whores"=>"escorts" (One syllable becomes 2, and this could make things HARD for cops, when a person gets taken away "with police escort"! And what about bodyguards, who are now called "armed escorts"?) "stewardesses"=>"flight attendants" (Same number of syllables, but doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely, as was heavily hinted at in the first Austin Powers movie) "trash-man"=>"Sanitation Engineer" (Makes it sound like picking up trash--while a downright NECESSARY profession--now requires a college degree?) "terrorists"=>"insurgents" (The mainstream press apparently doesn't believe blowing up/shooting up a few buildings makes you a terrorist anymore...Maybe the word HAS been overused, but still!) "crook"=>"suspect" (If you have video recording of an act--or perhaps a set of bloody gloves, footprints, a bloody knife, and a police-chase--how are they still a "suspect", rather than a known, even if unconvicted, crook?) "cop"=>"Peace Officer" (Ok, THIS one almost makes sense with their now-diminished authority...) "illegal alien"=>"undocumented immigrant" (What is this, a 1980-era cartoon? They left their permission documents in their other pants? Why not send them back to their own countries to go GET those documents? And CHECK FOR FORGERIES! The "immigrant" part is an insult to all the people who actually DID immigrate, rather than just skip all that paperwork--Who wants to reward someone that cuts in line AND doesn't pay admission? Or it could be a purposeful sleight-of-word to confuse invading illegal parasites with immigrants...Depending how cynical/conspiratorial you are!) Of course most of these can be blamed on the removal of religion from public schools and courts: When they took the 10 Commandments out, the Eleventh Commandment (Thou Shalt Not Offend, Even Thy Enemies Who Shalt Take Advantage of Thy Weakened Positions) moved to prominence...And THAT is because the Constitution mentioned the "Freedom to worship God", but forgot/neglected to specify WHICH God, since back then, it was all fleeing Christians, and the Christian God was just assumed...?

Aswad -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 3:30:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol It's funny. Most Muslims refer to the Eternel as 'God', not as Allah. So that Catholic Bishop in Amsterdam was either: 1. completely ignorant or 2. deliberately creating a controversy... or 3. he's an imbecile. Allah means G*d... or, rather, "the god". It is not a name, it is an appellation.

Aswad -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 3:33:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord One thing I wonder about giving "God" a proper name, though.. It isn't a proper name, even in Arabic. Two candidates for proper names exist, and all sides agree they are not appropriate to use.

Aswad -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 3:50:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord If someone actually believes in "God", they should truly devote every moment to "Him". Why should I do that? If you created life, whether a couple of people on an already inhabited planet, or a full universe, would you really want them to spend all their time on you, who they can basically offer nothing other than entertainment, rather than living their entertaining lives? For that matter, do we know anything about the nature of Gd, motives, or desires? quote:* It should be the core of their life- as immorality in bliss would be the greatest prize of all. Well, for some of us, spiritual pursuits are at the core of our being, but not something that occupies our every waking moment. Immortality in bliss, however, would be a curse, not a prize; where's the fun in that? quote: They should save as many "souls" as possible and adhere to the teachings of their religion as flawlessly as possible. How do you save a soul? And how do you adhere flawlessly to a moving target? quote: They're also good examples of how disruptive such superstitious beliefs can be. I guess my superstitious beliefs have disrupted your life a whole lot. But mine is generally disrupted by fanaticism, not mere belief. Whether superstitious or not; the former has disrupted less. Our government's fanatic beliefs are atheist in nature.

Aswad -> RE: Bishop: "call God 'Allah" to ease tensions (8/16/2007 3:52:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent These "Muslim" threads are a joy to behold. Top of page 1: thinly veiled attempt at debate. Top of page 2: muslims are evil. Top of page 3: we're all going to die unless we kill the muslims. Same old eh. Yeah, that's how it goes. So much for superstitious beliefs disrupting things. To me, the responses seem at least equally disrupting, most of the time.

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