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BeachMystress -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/5/2005 2:01:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Nope. I guess I just don't see people as malicious in general.


While I don't feel that most people are malicious, I think many are self centered, short sighted and don't take other's feelings or needs into consideration. I've been guilty of this myself at times, but since I've noticed it (and find it unattractive) in others, I try hard to minimize it in myself. When people want something, they find it easy to blind themselves to what they're doing to someone else. The old saying about rationalizations being more important than sex is also true in this case. If they realize they might be causing a problem for someone else, they tend to rationalize it away.

I too have noticed the Dom wanting to sub phenomena, mostly because they are asking to sub to me. I think that a lot of male subs end up "going Dom" because that is the only way they can get involved in kink. I do not find it either right or wrong unless they misrepresent themselves. If they take a femsub, they need to honor that and be her DOM. If it is a case of someone having true curiosity spring up about it, it is one thing. (And I feel they need to talk with the sub, explain the problem to her and release her if that is what she desires. In any case, I feel he goes and finds his own Domme rather than trying to get her to switch, unless SHE requests trying to be his Dominant.) But most of these people knew from the beginning that they'd rather sub and are settling for Domming. It isn't a true curiosity they are showing. It is trying to bottom from the top. I feel that misrepresenting yourself on purpose in a BDSM relationship is a breach of trust. What I feel the OP is talking about isn't confusion or curiosity. It is submissive men trying to get their kink met.

Whoever mentioned the male ego/submission thing (I'm in an editing program and too lazy to go look, lol) also may have a point that I'd not considered before. It may be that some men have problems with being "sub" and it doesn't come out until they trust someone. I can see a fem sub having trouble dealing with her Dom suddenly saying.. I want you to do X to me. She sees him as strong and in control. It could break her illusion of his superiority/authority. It's a shame when someone sees the Dominant as an uber person, rather than human with needs, failibilities and who makes mistakes.




zaynab -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/5/2005 5:08:59 PM)

reading this post got me to thinking..... i've always been a sub, im naturally that way and that's what i like.... but don't subs go through different feelings and desires, like everyone else?

i admit that there are times, that i think of being dominant and get turned on.... or get turned on and think of being a dom.... lol

especially when im in a rebellious mood that lasts for days.... but im still a sub....
does any of this sound familiar to you?
then again, for me, i have my alters to consider... some of them are definitely Doms, so maybe its just them taking a peek out here for a bit.....

*sighhhhh.... who knows..... can there really be such a clear cut set of rules for this, when most people dont even know "who they are"? ~ z




mossy -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/5/2005 8:52:55 PM)

Not so sure this topic is about any rules at all. i see it as a matter of taking personal resposibility in my relationships. Being honest with myself first, enabling me then to be honest with the person i am in a relationship with. If i don't know who i am or what i want, either i should wait till i figure it out? Or make it very clear to the person i am about to get involved with, i don't know where i am at.




debra -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/6/2005 11:23:33 AM)

Interesting comments, however I'm wondering about the folks who actually have a profile stating they are a Top in one and a Switch/Submissive in another. This confuses me.

More so after meeting a person from this site, this weekend - thinking he was a Master looking for a submissive. However, while using his computer, he left his profile open as a switch - either as a mistake or, perhaps as a means to 'let me know'. This mishap remains to be a mystery, as the meeting turned into less than wonderful.

I know that someone's sexuality should never be in a 'strict' definition, however - nor should labeling be misconscrued to purposely deceive.

Just my thoughts.




MHOO314 -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/6/2005 11:49:08 AM)

fear of exclusion often leads to the sin of inclusion...




Vancouver_cinful -> RE: Subs in Dom clothing? (7/10/2005 1:48:01 PM)

All other considerations aside, I do have an story that still makes me laugh. I was talking to a local man claiming to be a dominant about a year ago, and I outlined my rule about meeting first for coffee in a public place.

He insisted that once I met him, I'd trust him, and want to play, as did every woman he met, according to him. ::rolling eyes:: He then went on to say that when we met, he'd give me some locking cuffs, and after we left the coffee place I could cuff him, and take him home and do whatever I wanted to with him, until I trusted him as a dom...

After laughing myself silly at this blatant attempt to get himself kidnapped, I wished him luck finding a domme, and ended contact.

It takes all kinds to make the world go around.

Cin




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