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Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 2:37:50 PM   
teamnoir


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Last month I was talking to this woman and everything was going great. So we agreed to have coffee. She was cute, there was mutual attraction, so we agreed to play at an upcoming party.

So we did. And it was great! She came back to my place afterward and we had a really lovely time.

But later that week, I found out that she drive a BMW! Can you believe it! She drives a BMW and she had the audacity to lie about it and hide this information from me!

Stupid, lying, no good, CHEATERS! I'll never date or play with anyone again unless I verify via a reputable third party that this person doesn't drive a BMW. The online bdsm world is full of people like this - people who don't tell you that they drive BMW's before you get involved with them.

There outta be a law.

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For the record, this is humor.

Also for the record, if I happen to meet you at a party, talk, flirt, of propose play together, if I haven't mentioned something, like a wife, or a girlfriend, or a dog, or a BMW, or the name of my first grade teacher, it's because it hasn't occurred to me that it's at all relevant. If something like this is relevant to you, then it is your responsibility to ask. I really can't read anyone else's mind in order to know that the color of my cat might make a difference in whether you're up for a casual flogging.

And if you don't like the color of my cat, or my relationship status, or don't believe me when I tell you what it is, then I would submit that we have communications problems already and really shouldn't be playing with each other at this point.
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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 3:10:17 PM   
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Ya know....it's like when you go to the shoe store and say "I like those red shoes".  The clerk hands you a box containing the shoes and you go home, only to find that they're the wrong size.  Is it the clerk's fault for not asking you what size you wore, or is it that in some instances, some things should just be mentioned up front?

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 3:22:17 PM   
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Beemers...sheesh *shakes head*

i wouldnt care about the color of the cat, but maybe the color of the BMW :)
lol jp
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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 6:21:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

Ya know....it's like when you go to the shoe store and say "I like those red shoes".  The clerk hands you a box containing the shoes and you go home, only to find that they're the wrong size.  Is it the clerk's fault for not asking you what size you wore, or is it that in some instances, some things should just be mentioned up front?

Don't you try your shoes on at the store?
Joseff

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 6:22:09 PM   
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Dang...that is just so cold hearted to not disclose the car you drive.

To dang funny...LOL

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 6:26:39 PM   
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i guess it is just about honor lol wither you want to be a dog or a knight..  k3 to r1 check

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 7:36:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: teamnoir

Also for the record, if I happen to meet you at a party, talk, flirt, of propose play together, if I haven't mentioned something, like a wife, or a girlfriend, or a dog, or a BMW, or the name of my first grade teacher, it's because it hasn't occurred to me that it's at all relevant. If something like this is relevant to you, then it is your responsibility to ask. I really can't read anyone else's mind in order to know that the color of my cat might make a difference in whether you're up for a casual flogging.

Personally, I don't play casually. So it isn't likely that I'll meet anyone at a party and be flogged casually. Nor will I be meeting someone for the first time and heading over to their home to play no matter how cute I am or they are. There's just too many nasty little unknown bugs out there to chance the casual with a stranger and I've never been one who enjoys being touched without a pretty deep emotional bond being present.

I can see how it's convenient not to realize a responsibility in letting people know one's marital status, or whether or not one is involved and comitted elsewhere. I'm just not sure it's responsible, ethical, or a perception laced with any kind of integrity to feel no need to bother one way or the other; but it is because of this very attitude that due dilligence is wise for those of us who care who their play partners are.

Some people perceive all of wiitwd as casual, just like a casual meaningless vanilla one night stand, and others perceive sexual intimacy or touch as something reserved for a special few within certain parameters. It isn't a good idea to assume that anyone is on the same page as yourself unless you've taken the time to really know and discover that they are for yourself. Fortunately I'm one who wants to know who they're touching and know said person well. I'm just funny like that.

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 7:36:18 PM   
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:-O That should have been the first thing she told you!! How dear she!

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 7:52:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: teamnoir

Last month I was talking to this woman and everything was going great. So we agreed to have coffee. She was cute, there was mutual attraction, so we agreed to play at an upcoming party.

So we did. And it was great! She came back to my place afterward and we had a really lovely time.

But later that week, I found out that she drive a BMW! Can you believe it! She drives a BMW and she had the audacity to lie about it and hide this information from me!

Stupid, lying, no good, CHEATERS! I'll never date or play with anyone again unless I verify via a reputable third party that this person doesn't drive a BMW. The online bdsm world is full of people like this - people who don't tell you that they drive BMW's before you get involved with them.

There outta be a law.

--

For the record, this is humor.

Also for the record, if I happen to meet you at a party, talk, flirt, of propose play together, if I haven't mentioned something, like a wife, or a girlfriend, or a dog, or a BMW, or the name of my first grade teacher, it's because it hasn't occurred to me that it's at all relevant. If something like this is relevant to you, then it is your responsibility to ask. I really can't read anyone else's mind in order to know that the color of my cat might make a difference in whether you're up for a casual flogging.

And if you don't like the color of my cat, or my relationship status, or don't believe me when I tell you what it is, then I would submit that we have communications problems already and really shouldn't be playing with each other at this point.
Too simplistic and lack of relevance too convenient of an excuse, to the withholding of information..Tempting

< Message edited by TemptingNviceSub -- 8/16/2007 7:53:00 PM >


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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 8:37:20 PM   
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quote:

Also for the record, if I happen to meet you at a party, talk, flirt, of propose play together, if I haven't mentioned something, like a wife, or a girlfriend, or a dog, or a BMW, or the name of my first grade teacher, it's because it hasn't occurred to me that it's at all relevant.


WOW.... i wonder if the wife or girlfriend knows they aren't "relevant"? geez.....

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 8:40:41 PM   
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quote:

But later that week, I found out that she drive a BMW! Can you believe it! She drives a BMW and she had the audacity to lie about it and hide this information from me!


so, she has a BMW...so what? what does owning a BMW have to do with cheating? maybe i missed something here


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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 8:42:22 PM   
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Michael..You did miss something..the BMW was an analogy...Tempting

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 8:49:17 PM   
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I dunno, but the color of someone's cat makes all the difference in the world to me.  I always ask right off the bat.  If it's not an orange tabby, all bets are off.

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 8:50:06 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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perhaps i'm not understanding the analogy

was it a har top, a convertable, Standard or Auto transmition, AM/FM 8-track/cassette or CD. satellite radio? i don't get it


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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 9:12:01 PM   
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If someone has, say, a wife- in a, as far as she knows, monogomous relationship- and the husband cheats on her- of course others should care.  The husband has demonstrated a willingness to lie to someone he married.  Not only is this act morally reprehensible, but it also leaves in question the validity of any socially-contracted interaction with such an individual.  This is to say, he's not above manipulation and deceit.

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 9:28:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone
WOW.... i wonder if the wife or girlfriend knows they aren't "relevant"? geez.....


So I don't usually call myself the girlfriend, but we are going on 8 years now so I am in some category like that. And yes in this instance of an initial meeting/flirting/play encounter I do not believe that mentioning that I exist is necessary or relevant. So yeah I know.

Tia in Teamnoir's account...

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 9:30:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord
If someone has, say, a wife- in a, as far as she knows, monogomous relationship- and the husband cheats on her- of course others should care. The husband has demonstrated a willingness to lie to someone he married. Not only is this act morally reprehensible, but it also leaves in question the validity of any socially-contracted interaction with such an individual. This is to say, he's not above manipulation and deceit.


I think you're making a huge leap by assuming that someone else's relationship is supposed to be monogamous. Or even that marriage means the same thing to them that it might to you.

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 9:35:23 PM   
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OP:  I thought about this obtuse post for a while, and then suddenly I GOT IT:

To you, the committment of marriage is JUST LIKE the committment of leasing a luxury car:  You keep the object for 24 months or 30,000 miles, ride it hard and sell it for 40% of retail after two years!   I got it now.

E.

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 10:27:42 PM   
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are there not things in the vows of the wedding that say forsake all others and also to death do you part. if words have no meaning what the hell is everyone doing on here  lol just a point..

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RE: Cheaters! - 8/16/2007 10:40:54 PM   
Texy


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To the Op,

I needed a good giggle, thanks so much!!

To LatexBaby64, some people write their own marriage vows.

cheers,

gayle

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