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behindmirrors -> An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 6:59:39 PM)

I apologize in advance for length, haha. But I also thank you in advance for your responses. *smiles*

Alright, here's my issue- about 7 months ago, a muscle pull caused two hernias to show up in my groin, as well as injuring the ligaments in my inner thighs. I went through the standard procedure of physical therapy and rest for the pulled muscles, but the evolving hernias have now become painful, and I am being evaluated for surgery on Thursday to repair both hernias and the damaged ligaments.

From what I can gain through talking with my doctor and doing my own research, there is going to be a about a week where I am not going to be able to move much at all, and about a two month recovery.

Needless to say, as a slave who is used to being very involved in doing things around the house, taking care of my Master, working a very physically active job outside the house, and serving his sexual needs, this is a rather daunting shift in my lifestyle, and one I am not quite sure how to handle yet.

What I would like to know from those of you who have either been an injured submissive/slave or have had one is:

How did you and your partner handle the injury (and/or surgery) and recovery process?

Was it hard to "let go" of the things you were used to doing before your injury/surgery, or before your partner was injured? How did you or they cope with this?

Did your partner take an active role in the recovery process, and/or was there anything particularly helpful to you (and this could be physically or emotionally) that they did?

How did you handle restrictions on sexual activity or play? (And, is there a good way to bring this up to a doctor you have never met before?)

Is there any advice you have for either my Master or myself in how to deal with this type of situation (and communication is a given, we're pretty good at that thus far *grins*)?

Again, thank you in advance for any help and advice you can give me on this- it is appreciated.
behindmirrors.





DiurnalVampire -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:12:41 PM)

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What I would like to know from those of you who have either been an injured submissive/slave or have had one is:

How did you and your partner handle the injury (and/or surgery) and recovery process?
Just before I moved here, Angel had to go for a procedure, where he had several precancerous spots operated on. He was extremely uncomfortable for weeks after, and I had to handle him with kid gloves. We had to worry about blood spotting, and he was extremely embarassed about the potential that someone might see something from it. ASide from not being in the mood for intimacy (obviously) he was also emotionaly wrecked from the scare of finding the spots again and having to go back and repeat the procedures 6 months later to make sure they didnt return (this repeat having been this past weekend)
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Was it hard to "let go" of the things you were used to doing before your injury/surgery, or before your partner was injured? How did you or they cope with this?

It was very hard holding back when it had been so very long since I had seen him, and yet I knew I had to be careful. I did my best to make him comfortable, and held him when he needed me.  I made sure he knew that no matter what happened, I was going to be there for him through anything.
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Did your partner take an active role in the recovery process, and/or was there anything particularly helpful to you (and this could be physically or emotionally) that they did?

AS active as I could be, emotinoally supportive.  There really wasnt much I could do, which botehred me.  I culdnt make the pain go away, and I felt helpless. I also couldnt let him know it frusterated me.
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How did you handle restrictions on sexual activity or play? (And, is there a good way to bring this up to a doctor you have never met before?)

We dont play sexualy, for the most aprt, ad he wasnt in the mood for it anyway. He did ask his doctor about masturbation, and the doc said that he could do whatever he was comfortable with.  If your doctor knows you are partnered, asking about sexual restrictions is easy, just tell him or her that you and your partner want to make sure you are safe after the procedure. Its not that unusual a concern, really. Now, asking when you can get beat again might be a bit trickier.
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Is there any advice you have for either my Master or myself in how to deal with this type of situation (and communication is a given, we're pretty good at that thus far *grins*)?
Dont let your frusterations with the recovery or the restrictions cause you to fight. Arguments make things harder.  The frusteration is bad, and it can lead to arguments. Arguments lead to stress and stress slows down recovery. Just remember, it isnt going to be forever.

Hope that helps.  I nursed my exhusband after his bariatric surgery and he allowed the frusteration to kill our relationship.  Dont let that happen to you.  Think about the long term and what youwant to do when you get back into it, not what you are mising out on while you cant.

DV




Phin -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:17:58 PM)

Injuries suck, plain and simple, if you do not take care of them they will be around for a long time to haunt you. Yes it will be hard to let go of the things that you enjoy, but you got to do what you got to do.

the best way to bring something up to a doctor is to simply say it. Doctors see and hear alot of things. when the doctor askes do you have any questions, ask the questions you have frankly. not all details are required but if you state it like, "We enjoy rough sex, how long should we put it off" you will get a strieght answer, from experince doctors like you to be strieght so that they can relate concerns that they have that you may actually need to hear.

I wish you a speedy recovery and good luck
Phin




behindmirrors -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:23:38 PM)

DiurnalVampire-
Thank you so much for your thought out and kind advice, I really appreciate it- and I wish Angel the best in his own recovery!

This...
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Think about the long term and what you want to do when you get back into it, not what you are mising out on while you cant.

...is really helpful to me, especially since so many of the things I love to do will be hindered, and I think it might have to be my mantra, as I am having the most trouble coping with the prospect of "not being able" to do those things for a while.

Thank you again-
behindmirrors.






ProfJoe -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:24:06 PM)

Best wishes to you in your surgery and your recovery!

Believe me, healing takes time ... and hernia surgery seems to especially require support and patience. I hope you both have it! If the doctor says six months, by the way, s/he means for the body to heal ... it will take much, much longer for the "rest of you" to heal ... most psychs I've spoken with say that the emotional part of it takes 12-18 months. Be patient.

To answer your question: I would want to nurse my slave. I'm a control freak. Go figure.

A suggestion: hook up with a sports injury clinic. It may sound weird, but these folk are medical (doh) and, more important, they are good at helping people to "come back" after an injury. A non-athlete friend of mine was sent to one by her cardiologist after having a stent placed while dealing with MS (the disease, not the lifestyle). She is an edge player in an SM couple and the sports injury clinic showed her what and how to do what she needed both to recover and to play without increased danger.

It may be something useful to you, too.

Best wishes,
(Prof.) Joe




behindmirrors -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:26:36 PM)

Phin-
I agree, it does suck! At this point, I will be so happy to just get the whole ordeal over with it's rediculous.

I will do my best to ask my questions clearly to the doctor- a challenge for me as I am rediculously shy, haha, and especially around someone I am unfamiliar with. I hope nothing I can say will surprise him, anyway...and if it does, I guess it won't really matter so long as I get a clear answer in return. *smiles*

Thank you for your reply-
behindmirrors.




behindmirrors -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:30:38 PM)

ProfJoe-
Thank you for the reply! I have not yet considered the "emotional healing" aspect of this yet, so that was good to consider.

I've been a dancer my whole life, so I am actually seeing a surgeon who works primarily with athletes (and hernias, haha), and am very familiar with the sports medicine clinics and such around the area- even my family practice doctor I see has a second specialty in sports medicine, which helps tremendously.

As my Master can attest to, patience is not one of my virtues- I guess there will be plenty of time to work on that. *smiles*

Thanks again-
behindmirrors.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:37:23 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_807447/mpage_1/key_sick/tm.htm#807447
sick days for slaves?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_84833/mpage_1/key_sick/tm.htm#84833
serving in the presence of illness

http://www.collarchat.com/m_374685/mpage_1/key_injured/tm.htm#374685
curbing your slaves drive to service

http://www.collarchat.com/m_994950/mpage_1/key_ill/tm.htm#994950
health and Ds

http://www.collarchat.com/m_636094/mpage_1/key_ill/tm.htm#636094
ill sub/slave

http://www.collarchat.com/m_365321/mpage_1/key_ill/tm.htm#365321
what if this slave is ill

http://www.collarchat.com/m_278279/mpage_1/key_ill/tm.htm#278279
when a slave becomes ill




behindmirrors -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:49:01 PM)

LuckyAlbatross-
I think I'm seeing why you are the absolute Goddess of forum searches, haha- I could not pull up anything helpful when I tried, for whatever reason. I will be checking these out right now.
Thank you!
behindmirrors.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 7:51:29 PM)

Glad to help, always feels better to know you aren't alone nor the first to walk down this path.




SunNMoon -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 8:42:49 PM)

Behindmirrors,

I just want to wish a speedy recovery. And when you have to take it easy, just remember it’s really a short time. Take up a hobby like knitting, that way you are being useful to both of you by making something warm to wear this winter (I might add for this chilly August night).

Best wishes and I hope you feel fully recovered soon,
Kat




ChainedExistence -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 10:36:20 PM)

As a slave, I don't have control over everything , but there are plenty of things I do have control over in my world. Probably the biggest thing I "control" is my ability to do for others-family , friends, work colleagues, and Master. This is a joy to me and when I went through a sudden illness and surgery this past year, it suddenly rendered me unable to work for a couple of months,  to care for my children, to prepare for the  holidays, to drive people where they needed to go, and the ability to do things for Master. I had to let others do for me, and that was the hardest part of all- accepting the help gracefully. Initially I was very distraught, I cried about being out of work, I cried about not being able to decorate and shop for Christmas, I cried because I couldn't drive my children to sporting events, I cried because I couldn't take care of things for Master. I think I spent at least a week crying several times a day. Eventually I simply had to "submit" to the illness- to the fact that I could not do the things I was accustomed to doing. Even after I got home, I needed more than a month to recover.  I guess this where the desire for an emotional connection in my D/s comes into play most. Master came and did things for me, he lay beside me and stroked my hair, he brought me things I needed, and he comforted me in a way that no one else can. To me, that's part of what makes him more than my Dom. He Masters all of me, even the sick and injured me. He gave me his strength and support during my recovery. If you are used to being active and always on the go, you almost have to grieve the temporary loss of that, but at the same time, submitting to the notion that someone else can do for you is very humbling and will make you truly appreciate those people who are there when you need them most.




OeldeWolf -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 11:01:14 PM)

I am not sure I can add a lot to what people have already said.  But to my mind, the tricky part is the emotional/mental.  As another Dom said, I have nursed an ill partner/sub.  Even though I am a "natural"  Dom.  There is nothing from the point of view of a good Dom that precludes taking care of an injured sub/slave.  In fact, it is merely an extension of the care that we normally give.  So do not worry about forcing your Dom into a role that should not be his, it will only cause you unnecessary stress.  Because this, to, is part of the role we play.  Nursing is as much a part of care as a whipping is.  Or an orgasm.  If you can remember this, it will be one less stress you and he have to deal with.  :) 

OeldeWolf




softpjOS -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 11:23:08 PM)

behindmirrors

i absolutely know how you are feeling.  Having Mistress come to my house and cook, clean....talk about frustrating as well as depressing. I was supposed to be at Her house helping Her for heavens sake. 

One thing She kept telling me that truly helped and maybe it will help to hear it from your Master... She'd smile and say "but pj you are serving me by resting, allowing yourself to heal so you can be yourself again".  Because if we don't care for ourselves, we can't fully care for others can we? 

smile, take the time to allow yourself to heal and know this too shall pass

hugs
pj




MaamJay -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/19/2007 11:34:58 PM)

behindmirrors ... firstly, I wish you all the best for a speedy physical and emotional recovery from this injury and all its ramifications in your life. you've received some excellent advice here already. However, I am a Domme about to undergo a very similar situation in that My new sub is undergoing major surgery next Monday. Now, when I say new, W/we have been talking for over 2 months and she has had one visit here for over a week which surpassed My wildest hopes. she fitted in so wonderfully well with Master and I, it was amazing. W/we were planning for another longer visit, when she found out about her surgery. Having had other friends undergo this same procedure, (not the same as yours but similar side effects), one of whom stayed with Me some years ago to recuperate (I was alone at the time and told her it was easier to have her stay than keep going to her home with meals!) ... I know that the 4-6 weeks the Drs estimate is definitely ALL needed! And no bending, stretching, lifting, housework etc etc. My immediate thought was that My sub wouldn't be able to manage at home ... and knowing that she can be a determined little thing, she would probably do things she shouldn't and could make matters worse. So with a quick check with Master, I invited her ... well, fairly forcefully really LOL ... to come here to recuperate. Master and I work from home so she can have round the clock assistance. Her son (who fortuitously is also in the lifestyle), is immensely relieved and will happily drive her here when she comes out of hospital. That's a 4-5 hour drive depending on breaks ... the hospital know and have already said they will ensure she is well dosed with pain relief when she leaves. When she gets here, she already knows it will be straight to bed and no arguments! Her son will stay over a day or two before heading back to work and home.

she is going through all the same fears and concerns as you are ... the whole feeling of being "useless" and "a burden" ... the frustration of being helpless ... the difficulty of receiving help graciously when she is much more used to giving it. The way I explained it to her is this ... "you get a lot of joy from giving and helping others, yes?" "Yes", she agreed she did. "Then why would you deny someone else that same joy that they could get from helping you, from being there for you when you need them?" Well, that gobsmacked her a bit, she'd not thought of it that way. When I took it further and told her she would be selfish to deny help or not to receive it graciously ... well, she definitely didn't want to be selfish and that really gave her something to think about. Hopefully that will be helpful to you to think of it this way too ... you are serving your Master by allowing Him to do what He needs to do for the care and maintenance of His slave so she returns to health as quickly as possible so she can resume normal duties. And I agree with OeldeWolf, nursing an injured sub/slave is all part of the Dom/me's role, an extension of aftercare ... and all a part of the love We have for Our little ones.

I will probably post at times through My pet's recovery, but if you want to stay in touch more personally, email Me on the other side and W/we can talk in more depth about issues that arise during the recovery and how W/we deal with them.

All the best
Maam Jay aka violet[A]




nyrisa -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/20/2007 12:52:04 AM)

How did you and your partner handle the injury (and/or surgery) and recovery process?

I have been through 4 surgeries and 6 hospital stays in the past 2 years. At times, the stress threatened to become overwhelming for both of us. My husband developed this mantra that he made both of us repeat: "little bites". Don't dwell on the whole "surgery/recovery/how will it affect us" thing. Just focus on day to day, one step at a time. He would frequently bring my focus back to the moment by saying, "we will deal with this in little bites."

Was it hard to "let go" of the things you were used to doing before your injury/surgery, or before your partner was injured? How did you or they cope with this?

Good heavens, yes. His most frequent complaint about me is that I am too independant. For me to miss so much work (our joint income maintains our household), and seeing him having to work, juggle the finances, then come home and do the cooking and laundry too, while I rested in bed, was VERY hard. But we developed a whole new level of closeness. We spent more time talking, and cuddling, and just being together, than we'd ever had before.

Did your partner take an active role in the recovery process, and/or was there anything particularly helpful to you (and this could be physically or emotionally) that they did?

He took a very active role in my recovery. I had to have dressing changes and wound treatments every day, and he did this for me. I told him, "I bet when that preacher said, for better for worse, in sickness and health", you didn't quite picture this, did you?" And he said, "This is exactly what those promises meant." He was involved in every aspect of my treatments and recovery, and this is the man who absolutely hates hospitals.

How did you handle restrictions on sexual activity or play? (And, is there a good way to bring this up to a doctor you have never met before?)

Write down your list of questions you have for the doctor about the surgery and recovery. And write the sexual questions right in the middle of the list, and treat them no differently when you ask. All of this is part of your recovery, and your doctor would much rather you know what you need to know, than have you worried or stressed. It is not as hard to ask doctors these questions as you may think.

As far as the sexual activity: my husband was afraid to touch me sexually, for a long time. I got plenty of cuddling and stroking, but he treated me like fragile glass. Once I felt well enough for sex, and once I had the medical ok, I had to actually seduce him. It took a lot of reassurance from me, that it felt good, that I needed it, before he could begin to see me as a sexual toy again. Because my surgery was abdominal, I was able to resume oral service first, and for months that was about all I could do. But I became DAMNED good at it. *smiles*


Is there any advice you have for either my Master or myself in how to deal with this type of situation (and communication is a given, we're pretty good at that thus far *grins*)?

Just remember, you are a valued property. It is natural that he will want you taken care of, and who knows his property better than him? You serve him best by doing everything needed to get healthy. So, follow the doctor's orders carefully.

Don't cheat by trying to do housework when he isn't looking. (I noticed that the toilet needed cleaning......and my husband caught me sneaking into the bathroom with the toilet brush. In a stern voice, he asked "You aren't about to clean the toilet, are you?" So, being caught redhanded, I gave him a charming smile, handed him the brush, and said, "No, YOU are." Never underestimate the value of humor to help you get through tough times.

And remember, this is only temporary. You will soon be back on your feet (or on your back, or suspended......**grins**)




Cyntilating -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/20/2007 4:11:56 AM)

Behindmirrors
 
   In addition to all the great advice others have given you here> perhaps think about > the more resolute you are to healing quickly, by following instructions and avoiding all those things you're not allowed to do temp, the more quickly you will be returning to things as they were before surgery.
 
I understand your concerns...how to watch others do what we want/feel/should be doing ourselves> wanting to jump up and help or do >  makes it difficult to rest and be still..and heal.
 
You didn't mention your masters feelings and attitudes about what is coming up for you > but I think its important to let him know all of how you are feeling ( doubts too ) and ask him to help you emotionally . 
Talk about the fact that > youre most likely gonna get cranky and irritable because you cannot do and help all you want..and frustrations may lead you to have less than a sunny disposition [:D] lol...  "I worry about saying something I dont mean to say....what then Master?" I'm concerned about not being able to please you or worse, displeasing you somehow..? "   just put it all out on the line and let him address your concerns....it probably wont help you NOT to become irritable etc but it will have helped to both know the whys and hows that the other is feeling and reacting to when this happens...proactive helps avoid reactive < when negative reactions are a possibility.
One day at a time : ) and try not to project or assume his emotions and reactions..  communication rather than imagination. 
 
I hope all goes well for you medically ( and otherwise ) and wish you a speedy recovery.

 
 




becca333 -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/20/2007 4:49:09 AM)

Wishing you a speedy recovery, hope it all goes well for you.

I spent several months having to sit, keep my foot still, and not move around much.  Drove me mad - you can only watch so much daytime TV.

He was lovely throughout, very supportive.  And whenever we could we improvised with positions that allowed some very satisfying play.  In fact, the problems seemed to add to the satisfaction, we'd had to overcome obstacles!  (Ok, it wasn't exactly climbing Everest or feeding the poor in Calcutta, but it was a certain kind of personal achievement.)  Having to wait made it even more fun when we could play.

You'll get through this, just do what the nice doctors tell you, and behave, even if you want to gnaw the curtains and scream in frustration (which is, actually, rather fun if he's using... never mind). 




HisDestiny -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/20/2007 5:00:59 AM)

After an accident, I was "laid up" for quite awhile.  It was absolutely difficult to let go of my duties and drive.  The desire to continue to do them never left.  Master took over everything.  He went to work, picked up the kids from school, helped them with homework, made dinner, did the cleaning...name it and he took care of it.  (I think he even washed one of the dogs when she'd gotten into something.)

I felt like I was betraying my vows to him and that I should somehow miraculously heal to 100% overnight.  The reality of it was that I needed time to heal, as you will.  Master continuously made two points.  The first point was that as the Master, he had every right to take care of all or none of the tasks, as he saw fit.  His second point was that if I disobeyed his request to take care of myself so I would heal as quickly as possible, it would delay my ability to get back to doing what I love doing....serving him and taking care of our home and family.

Just keep in mind that you're not blowing off your duties because you've changed your heart or will.  You're allowing yourself time to heal so you'll be back better than ever once the healing is complete.

Baby steps once you feel better...don't over do it or you'll set yourself back.

Destiny




camisra -> RE: An injured slave with questions. (8/20/2007 6:16:35 AM)

 behindmirrors i likewise wish you a speedy recovery.  After reading all the responses you recieved pretty much everything has been said.  And as my Mistress has mentioned here as she has tried to drum it into my think stubborn brain, that i get a lot of joy out of giving, which i do, so why should i deny in this case my Mistress the joy of helping me in my recovery.  PLEASE allow yourself the time to heal and whatever help you may need accept it as a gift thats given with the heart.

best wishes
camisra





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