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seeksfemslave -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 12:47:17 AM)

I think it is impossible to know the educational level of anyone simply by reading posts on CM.. It is obviously possible to make a good guess though.

I also think that there is a satisfactorily large number of intelligent posters and that it is also possible to "guestimate" which posters have been thru' what I would term the "sociological waffle"  side of the educational process.

As for the poster who constantly tells us she is an academic, I miss her posts and suspect a relationship breakdown. Am I right ?




meatcleaver -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 1:52:31 AM)

I have a British degree in fine arts (Sculpture) and a (sub degree) diploma in mechanicanical engineering, a Dutch degree in fine arts (Painting). I've spent a year in an arts fellowship in France.

My thoughts have been that a significant proportion of CM posters are university graduates or at least are widely read. I guess you realy can't tell because a degree proves nothing about a person or their ability and that is the first thing you learn at university.




sub4hire -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 5:30:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Alright, so new thread time.  What does everyone think the average CM member's penis size is?


I think it is below average for this country.  Primarily because we always seem to have size threads going on.

It really does not matter at all what size a man's penis is.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 5:57:25 AM)

I bet lots of "ladies" and gay men wouldnt agree with that.lol




kittinSol -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 6:17:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

The middle is kind of a nice place to be I think.



Unless you're sitting firmly on the fence, in which case: ouch.




camille65 -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 6:20:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I think it is impossible to know the educational level of anyone simply by reading posts on CM.. It is obviously possible to make a good guess though.

I also think that there is a satisfactorily large number of intelligent posters and that it is also possible to "guestimate" which posters have been thru' what I would term the "sociological waffle"  side of the educational process.

As for the poster who constantly tells us she is an academic, I miss her posts and suspect a relationship breakdown. Am I right ?


It would be neat to hear what folks here assume I am.

Any guesses? [8D]




Politesub53 -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 7:28:29 AM)

Camille.....You are an angel from Heaven sent down to cheer up the forums !!

Sheesh ask me something difficult [;)]




Real0ne -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 9:08:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

No doubt, any opinion or speculation we might make will be immediately and ruthlessly savaged.  Doesn't that just make it more interesting to discuss??

Here's my initial speculation, delivered with absolutely no tact:

CM members disproportionately represent blue collar backgrounds and high school educations.



Haha!  If you want to see ruthlessly savaged try discussing 911!

As for the OP why should it be anydifferent than the crossection of education thoughout america?  Assuming most here are americans?

Reading, Literacy & Education Statistics
  
Education Statistics
33% of children in California will not finish high school.

Disadvantaged students in the first grade have a vocabulary that is approximately half that of an advantaged student (2,900 and 5,800 respectively).

The educational careers of 25 to 40 percent of American children are imperiled because they don't read well enough, quickly enough, or easily enough.

The average student learns about 3,000 words per year in the early school years (8 words per day).

It is estimated that more than $2 billion is spent each year on students who repeat a grade because they have reading problems.

Five to six year olds have a vocabulary of 2,500-5,000 words.

54 percent of all teachers have limited English proficient (LEP) students in their classrooms, yet only one-fifth of teachers feel very prepared to serve them.

14% of all individuals have a learning disability.

Since 1983, more than 10 million Americans reached the 12th grade without having learned to read at a basic level. In the same period, more than 6 million Americans dropped out of high school altogether.

Literacy Statistics
More than 20 percent of adults read at or below a fifth-grade level - far below the level needed to earn a living wage.

Over 50% of NASA employees are dyslexic. They are deliberately sought after because they have superb problem solving skills and excellent 3D and spatial awareness.

Dyslexia affects one ot of every five children - ten million in America alone.

More than three out of four of those on welfare, 85% of unwed mothers and 68% of those arrested are illiterate. About three in five of America's prison inmates are illiterate.

Approximately 50 percent of the nation's unemployed youth age 16-21 are functional illiterate, with virtually no prospects of obtaining good jobs.

Children who have not developed some basic literacy skills by the time they enter school are 3 - 4 times more likely to drop out in later years.

Over one million children drop out of school each year, costing the nation over $240 billion in lost earnings, forgone tax revenues, and expenditures for social services.

Nearly half of America's adults are poor readers, or "functionally illiterate." They can't carry out simply tasks like balancing check books, reading drug labels or writing essays for a job.

60 percent of America's prison inmates are illiterate and 85% of all juvenile offenders have reading problems.

It is estimated that the cost of illiteracy to business and the taxpayer is $20 billion per year.

U.S. adults ranked 12th among 20 high income countries in composite (document, prose, and quantitative) literacy.

44 million adults in the U.S. can't read well enough to read a simple story to a child.

To participate fully in society and the workplace in 2020, citizens will need powerful literacy abilities that until now have been achieved by only a small percentage of the population.

21 million Americans can't read at all, 45 million are marginally illiterate and one-fifth of high school graduates can't read their diplomas.

Reading Statistics
One-third of 500,000 = 22? There are almost half a million words in our English Language - the largest language on earth, incidentally - but a third of all our writing is made up of only twenty-two words.

In 1999, only 53 percent of children aged 3 to 5 were read to daily by a family member. Children in families with incomes below the poverty line are less likely to be read aloud to everyday than are children in families with incomes at or above the poverty line.

The average reader spends about 1/6th of the time they spend reading actually rereading words.

In a class of 20 students, few if any teachers can find even 5 minutes of time in a day to devote to reading with each student.

50 percent of American adults are unable to read an eighth grade level book.

46% of American adults cannot understand the label on their prescription medicine.

Good readers in 5th grade may read 10 times as many words as poor readers over a school year.

15% of all 4th graders read no faster than 74 words per minute, a pace at which it would be difficult to keep track of ideas as they are developing within the sentence and across the page.

Students who reported having all four types of reading materials (books, magazines, newspapers, encyclopedias) in their home scored, on average, higher than those who reporter having fewer reading materials.

According to the 2003 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), 37 percent of fourth graders and 26 percent of eighth graders cannot read at the basic level; and on the 2002 NAEP 26 percent of twelfth graders cannot read at the basic level. That is, when reading grade appropriate text these students cannot extract the general meaning or make obvious connections between the text and their own experiences or make simple inferences from the text. In other words, they cannot understand what they have read.

It is estimated that as many as 15 percent of American students may be dyslexic.

When the State of Arizona projects how many prison beds it will need, it factors in the number of kids who read well in fourth grade.

Out-of-school reading habits of students has shown that even 15 minutes a day of independent reading can expose students to more than a million words of text in a year.

56 percent of young people say they read more than 10 books a year, with middle school students reading the most. Some 70 percent of middle school students read more than 10 books a year, compared with only 49 percent of high school students.

Forty-four percent of American 4th grade students cannot read fluently, even when they read grade-level stories aloud under supportive testing conditions.

15 percent of the population has specific reading disorders. Of these 15 percent as many as 1/3 may show change in the brain structure.

First grade children with good word recognition skills were exposed to almost twice as many words in their basal readers as were children who had poor word recognition skills.
http://www.readfaster.com/education_stats.asp



so you just may be correct!




Real0ne -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 9:11:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

The middle is kind of a nice place to be I think.



Unless you're sitting firmly on the fence, in which case: ouch.


Depends on the fence!  :)




OedipusRexIt -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 9:17:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: camille65

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I think it is impossible to know the educational level of anyone simply by reading posts on CM.. It is obviously possible to make a good guess though.

I also think that there is a satisfactorily large number of intelligent posters and that it is also possible to "guestimate" which posters have been thru' what I would term the "sociological waffle"  side of the educational process.

As for the poster who constantly tells us she is an academic, I miss her posts and suspect a relationship breakdown. Am I right ?


It would be neat to hear what folks here assume I am.

Any guesses? [8D]



I wouldn't presume to guess.  However, I thought the notion of guessing each other's background/status was ... provacative.  That's fun.


Also, am highly amused at how, each time a question like this is raised. there is a rush and tumble of people who want to cite their credentials.  Even more amusing, is how many people desparate to do so proclaim how little they care what people think...

Hey... maybe I'm broke, on assistance and was badly home-schooled by Jethro Bodine to an almost a 6th grade eddycashun... 


... now "them's" credentials...




Alumbrado -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 9:22:32 AM)

I guess that is easier than addressing the flaws in your OP. [8|]




luckydog1 -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 9:57:58 AM)

"As for the OP why should it be anydifferent than the crossection of education thoughout america?  Assuming most here are americans? "

this shows a basic failure of logical thinking on your part Real....you also post that

"21 million Americans can't read at all, 45 million are marginally illiterate and one-fifth of high school graduates can't read their diplomas"

Do you not see how the 2 cancell them selves out...we are 100% literate on this site, yet Americans are aprox 20% illiterate.  This site is very unrepresentative of society in general




kittinSol -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 10:02:35 AM)

Especially since the members of collarme.com aren't exclusively americans.




Real0ne -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 10:30:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

"As for the OP why should it be anydifferent than the crossection of education thoughout america?  Assuming most here are americans? "

this shows a basic failure of logical thinking on your part Real....you also post that

"21 million Americans can't read at all, 45 million are marginally illiterate and one-fifth of high school graduates can't read their diplomas"

Do you not see how the 2 cancell them selves out...we are 100% literate on this site, yet Americans are aprox 20% illiterate.  This site is very unrepresentative of society in general


suffice to say you didnt get it, and I will leave it at that.






luckydog1 -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 10:41:12 AM)

Yes,  lets leave it with this glaring example of your lack of critical thinking skills.




callistaIn -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 10:51:15 AM)

I am currently working towards my doctorate; make very good money at my chosen career; and am highly educated.

Is that what you were looking for?

[:)]

Best of wishes

callie




kittinSol -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 11:01:20 AM)

I'm jealous, I've only got a BA.

Care to share [:)] ?

PS: with Honours of course.




InnocentYoungSub -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 11:11:36 AM)

I'm from a blue collar, lower middle class background. Father has been in prison twice. I've lived more of my life in mobile homes and apartments than in houses. I'm white trash.

I also graduated from my H.S. a year early and I read at a 12th grade level by the time I was in junior high. So your socioeconomic background doesn't always predict your intelligence.




callistaIn -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 11:19:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I'm jealous, I've only got a BA.

Care to share [:)] ?

PS: with Honours of course.

LOL

aerospace and mechanical engineering...[&:] Pretty boring...I know lol, but I find it fascinating.

callie




kittinSol -> RE: Economics/Education and CM Members (8/21/2007 11:21:10 AM)

Sexy!




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