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briska -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/20/2007 10:25:18 PM)

my Daddy is also my Sir, so in that respect I do as he wishes - chores, attending functions with him, etc - but I am also 'spoiled' and loved/coddled/punished accordingly.  Just last weekend we went to the local bdsm club after a day of cleaning and packing, and the next day we went out and he bought me anything needed for going back to college.  I don't feel any more dominant just because I can ask for things - if anything, I feel happy/thrilled that He loves me enough to oblige me and is happy to do so.  




Archer -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/20/2007 11:05:33 PM)

The idea of the "High Chair Tyrant" as a Dominant figure is certainly not new.
I've occassionally threatened Elegant with a scene like that. LOL
With me as the High Chair Tyrant.




adoracat -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 12:16:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: addisonclarkgirl

Is being a little girl (in a Daddy/little girl situation) more of a dominant trait than a submissive one?  For example, the little girl wants Daddy's love, she wants his attention, she wants to wrap Daddy around her little finger, she wants Daddy to understand her needs, she wants to be spoiled, she even wants to be punished sometimes.  Does this make her more dominant?  Orrr...is it just part of "the submissive ultimately has all of the control anyway" understanding?


*thinks about this after reading the entire thread*

Sir calls me Daddy's lil girl slave.  he also calls me his priceless treasure.  i dont want to rule the dynamic, i just want Sir/Daddy to love me, and be Daddy.  he's always still in charge, but sometimes lets me be silly and a bit of a smarty to him.  that isnt me being in charge or domiant, its just him indulging me here and there.

if i wanted to be the dominant, i wouldnt have a Sir.

kitten, who is content to be the sub.




LittleWolvenOne -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 12:52:44 AM)

It depends on the lifestyle of the people involved. Some little girls are more bdsm orriented and some little girls are more ageplay orriented. In a traditional Daddy dom/little girl sub relationship that is based on nurturing discipline, the daddy is dominant and little girl is submissive. The roles are fairly constant and based on the big person being the top and the little girl being the bottom. In bdsm, of course there will be more traditional bdsm dynamics. On collarme.com, you will probably recieve responses from this side of things considering your audience.

In ageplay, the dynamics can be fluid because people are playing with age groups and dynamics between people of different ages, not necessarily different levels of power. A little girl can obey a mommy or daddy. If her little is old enough, she can also take care of a baby, boss around younger littles or play with a puppyboy. She can also color and watch cartoons with other littles. She can be with out any adult supervision and still be doing ageplay.

Little girls can also be the "spoiled" princess who enjoys being taken care of by submissive parents.She can also be a "bad" girl in a bad girl top/good girl bottom scene.Or the cheerleader who seduces and humiliates the teacher/coach..If the little girl is more of a tween or older, you can get more into resistance play/bdsm play.

So it really depends on the two people involved. This is true for most things in life though.




Cyntilating -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 2:50:45 AM)

LittleWolvenOne
 
So, what you are saying is that > the daddy/little girl dynamic is mostly a "roleplaying" theme>that is just continual vs being something done in a scene and occassionally for kink?
 
You liken it to "being the cheerleader" < which makes me ask the question above.
 




johnxinxscruz -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 6:13:15 AM)


I think it depends on the people involved. I haven't really found any little-girl domme's, but I don't find the idea to be completely impossible, either. My little girl can be a bit switchy, and was the aggressor in her first age-gap relationship (she seduced one of her teachers during her senior year of HS). With me, she can be a little bratty and try to push her boundaries, but she's never the dominant in the relationship.

I have another friend, though, who very much likes ageplay and being the "little girl" to someone's daddy... but she doesn't like being dominated.

I think if you look at it as "Daddy, as the 'parental' role, has to be in charge" then it's hard to think of "little girl might not be submissive." ... but, if you instead look at it as: "the Domme can be whatever she wants, including a little girl", then there's a lot more room for variations of the theme.

For me, a "spoiled/bratty little girl" is an opportunity for a spanking ;-) (though, I do sometimes go way out of my way to spoil my girl, that's different from her acting like a spoiled brat)




thetammyjo -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 7:58:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: addisonclarkgirl

Is being a little girl (in a Daddy/little girl situation) more of a dominant trait than a submissive one? For example, the little girl wants Daddy's love, she wants his attention, she wants to wrap Daddy around her little finger, she wants Daddy to understand her needs, she wants to be spoiled, she even wants to be punished sometimes. Does this make her more dominant? Orrr...is it just part of "the submissive ultimately has all of the control anyway" understanding?


I think it depends on the people playing this dynamic.

On those rare occasions when I've been able to purposely play a "little girl" I am still very much the dominant person in charge. My sub "daddy" is there to cater to my whims and protect his "princess" and if he doesn't I will throw a fit and spank him for being a bad "daddy".




LittleWolvenOne -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 9:29:05 AM)

I am using these examples as illustrations of the diversity of ageplay. Some people engage in role play, other people engage in rolebased relationships. I don't associate these roles with play or with relationships. I alllow other people to decide what they are in thier individual relationships. The same way, some people engage in master/slave roleplay and others have master/slave role-based relationships.

I was mainly trying to express different ways that littles cross the dominant/submissive spectrum. So I used some examples of both age play dynamics and ageplay scenes. The cheerleader example was more to illustrate that older little girls can be quite the temptress and was using a popular fantasy (cheer-leeders) that I thought a male sub could relate to. The same way people who have Master/slave relationships some times take the opportunity to express that through high protocol/service.. even though they are still Master/slave in low or medium protocol. Some one who has an ageplay relationship may have ageplay based scenes....

My other points was that Ageplay Daddy/girl (or other ageplay dynamics) is very different from BDSM daddy girl. And of course Ageplay can be high protocol too. There could be rules around bedtime, bathtime, play time, story time, chores... the list goes on....

"Little Girls" can cross the spectrum of dominant-submissive and so can the Bigs, littles and mediums who play with them, love them, take care of them, etcetera. Age Play differs from BDSM daddy-girl in the sense of being more fluid with dominant-submissive. There are less rules about who is in control, in charge, etcetera. The degree that people identify with the roles they play is very individual, regardless of the role being master/slave, dominant/submissive, daddy/girl, girl/puppy, etcetera.

As an example: I have a little puppy-boy/sissy baby that I have adopted. Most of the time, I identify as a "momma domme" type. Some times, I relate to him more as an older sister. Some times, we are more like child-hood sweet hearts. Other times he is my puppy and I am the little girl who plays with him. I am somes times big, medium, little, but I am always bigger and in charge. He is adopted and he is mine.

The mean and bossy chearleader or naughty school girl dominant is some thing I may do as a casual scene with a girl I play with. However most of my bdsm relationships are with people who are also involved in the ageplay community. So some of my ageplay relationships are more casual and others are more commited.




leatherette -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 9:50:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

The idea of the "High Chair Tyrant" as a Dominant figure is certainly not new.
I've occassionally threatened Elegant with a scene like that. LOL
With me as the High Chair Tyrant.



Archer Sir: The thought of that ( though I don't know you personally) truly invokes fear in this girl. ( I mean this in a good way) [:(]




WhiplashSmile -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 10:07:19 AM)

When I first read and responded to this thread, I was not honestly thinking too much of my own past.  The years that have passed can be a bit of a blur at times.  This morning though I had one of those classic slap on the forehead "I could of had a V8" moments.

Yes, a Domme can act very much like a spoiled little girl, or one trying to wrap Daddy around her fingers.  In many regards, it's a less threatening role to play at times even.   I was not looking at this from a more serious angle, mind you the years have passed.   There were a number of roles that Amanda and I had fun with, and sort mocked.  Meaning we acted things out and sort of had or made fun of it at the time.  At least this is how I've always viewed it when it happened, and have looked back upon it as such too.

I did not think about connecting the dots until I read a private email from somebody this morning.   The subject of pampering was wrote about.  Now, pamper is something that can be done by both submissives and Doms alike.  I myself have bathed somebody and brushed their hair out and blah, blah, blah...

Long story short, I was reflecting upon the subject of pampering.  How sure, I've done this and I'm a Dom.   Pampering itself is neither a submissive or Domly act, it's all in how you go about doing it. 

At first I thinking about my Dom to submissive pampering acts, then there is the odd ball exception from my past.  Anyways, there I was reflecting upon past interactions and how the Hell it worked.  Dugh, she would act like a little girl at times trying to Coax me into pampering her.   While she was not ordering me around or treating me like a submissive, she would assert her way at times by acting very much like a little girl, one trying to wrap a Daddy around her fingers.  Ummmmmmm....  I was always aware that she was asserting herself in this fun or positive manipulation manner.  he he he..  Yes, at times I would even be a bit of a smart ass pointing out that I knew what she was up to.   However, when you are with somebody you actually love, like, enjoy and care about.  Again, she was Domme however she was not treating me like I was submissive.

There were moments when we asserted pampering one each other, actually... pampering is can be a really non threatening way of topping somebody too..  Twisted, my mind is completed twisted this morning.  

The thoughts of little girls topping a Daddy from the bottom are on my mind.  Yes, I have my moments where I am concious of WTF is going on, and it's totally up to me if I allow it or not.   Within reason, if a little girl thinks this Daddy is a complete push over, she's in for a rude awakening.  Now, my mind is thinking in deeper thoughts in light of recent personal experiences in dealing with a bit of a Bratty Little girl that likes to do things her way regardless.

What a Daddy/Daughter relationship means for one person, may be somewhat different to another.  I will say this, some of my recent experiences with a so called D/s long di relationship remind me very much of a D/D relationship I was once in.

So between this thread, a morning email, a little personal reflection upon my past and my recent interactions.   Yes, there are little girls that enjoy manipulating, (ummm.. wrapping Daddy around their fingers).

I think this is a great subject for two people entering into a Daddy/Daugter type of relationship to talk about and get out in the open.   I can honestly see this working D/s with the little girl on top, or Daddy on the top, or even a mutal balance of Power between a Daddy/Daughter.  

There are times when D/s is too stressed as part of the lifestyle, that it becomes a stereotype.  Meaning Daddy's are supposed to be always be the Dom, and little girls are just mere submissives.

The one thing I enjoy and appreciate about using the message boards and interacting with other people here, is that it makes me back up, stop and think.  Helps me rethink or see things in a slightly different light at times.  While I have not been actually doing very many BDSM activities for nearly a year now, I feel that I have been growing as a person.

Some people actually shun the thoughts and ideas about being involved in any BDSM community be it online or in the real time.  Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it can be a bit of a social club at times with people in their own little clicks or groups.  However, there is also some value to what a BDSM community can offer.  In terms of social interaction, and the exchange of different perspectives.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 10:18:19 AM)

in my dynamic with Daddy, there is no ageplay. Daddy is merely the nurturing fatherly dom type which i didn't have while growing up because i had the typical military dad. 




girlygurl -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 10:22:58 AM)

a brat?  umm... the last time my Sir called me a brat or my actions bratty i was punished.  feisty, silly, goofey.... all apart of who i am.  but He doesn't except bratty.  why would you think being a brat is a dominate trait?




WhiplashSmile -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 10:43:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

in my dynamic with Daddy, there is no ageplay. Daddy is merely the nurturing fatherly dom type which i didn't have while growing up because i had the typical military dad. 


The first time somebody called me Daddy, it actually squicked me out in 2.5 seconds flat.   I was in my early 20's (think 21), and it went over like the sounds of a record player needle scratching across vinyl.   She was only a few years younger then me...  it made me question or wonder about her wanting a father figure in her life.   A role I could not even begin to comprehend at that time.

Needless to say, I was of the please don't call me Daddy ever again mindset, because you just creeped me out.  I was 21 years old and I could not even see myself playing Daddy to anybody at that time.

The reality of it all, was she looking for somebody to play Daddy to her. You bet she was.  Was I accepting of this at the time? Hell no!  The whole concept was freaky to me and I was not accepting of it.   I still remember the day, when I told her that I was wanting a relationship with somebody, and not wanting to play Daddy to anybody.  Dugh, I was so young and stupid back then.  I could not see past my own nose.   It even creeped me out to think thoughts of sexual age play too... Daddy? WTF? my mind was not prepared to deal with it at all.  Anyways, needless to say, I was once of those people that did not understand Daddy/Daughter dynamics and was totally Squicked by it.

It took a few year to go by, and I was exchanging past relationship stories with somebody, when it explained a little more to me.  Yes, I did end up feeling a bit like a Jackass in the end, however the past is the past.   I can't beat myself up over spilled milk, I was simply being myself as I was at the time.




addisonclarkgirl -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 12:21:56 PM)

i guess the two people in the relationship have to define what it is for themselves and not allow labels to push them into a box.  i've always believed that.  However, i've also always believed that i'm submissive; yet, i had a Daddy tell me...while looking for a relationship...that for being submissive, i sure wanted a lot.  This is who i am.  Yes, i'm submissive, but i have this little girl in me.  i want to be spoiled (not materially) and loved and the center of my Daddy's world, but at the same time, i am so giving and loving myself.  i want to please Daddy and treat Him like He's the center of my world too. 





LittleWolvenOne -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 12:57:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

in my dynamic with Daddy, there is no ageplay. Daddy is merely the nurturing fatherly dom type which i didn't have while growing up because i had the typical military dad. 


Daddy/girl is a very popular term that describes a variety of different people. There are Daddy/girls in the lifesetyle who identify with bdsm that doesn't include any ageplay and there are Daddy/girls who identify more with ageplay than bdsm. Leather Daddies or leather girls are a common term for the those that are more into the nurturing discipline side of bdsm. Some times girls who enjoy Ageplay Daddy/girl are called Adult Children or littles.

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

It even creeped me out to think thoughts of sexual age play too... Daddy? WTF? my mind was not prepared to deal with it at all.  Anyways, needless to say, I was once of those people that did not understand Daddy/Daughter dynamics and was totally Squicked by it.


Actually, alot of people who enjoy sexual ageplay or spanking ageplay prefer to use the term "Bigs" and "Littles" to describe the person they play with. Sometimes "Daddy" and "daughter" is a bit too close their personal experience of childhood. The concept of incest and child abuse is one the most common reason why many people are turned off by ageplay or daddy/girl dynamics. Some times it is the taboo or forbidden that makes things more charged for people and it can be a fine line walking between them. Some people see ageplay as really fluffy and some people see it as a form of edge play.




kyraofMists -> RE: dominant little girls? (8/21/2007 4:01:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

The idea of the "High Chair Tyrant" as a Dominant figure is certainly not new.
I've occassionally threatened Elegant with a scene like that. LOL
With me as the High Chair Tyrant.


LOL

I would love to see that, Sir.

Alandra labled this attitude from him as the "little boy in the sandbox".  Whenever he gets this way, we just look at each other and say "vroom vroom".  It can be adorable, exasperating and hysterical all at once.  I don't know whether I want to cry, laugh or yell, and all three are legitimate responses.

Knight's Kyra




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