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WhiplashSmile -> RE: is all this right?? (8/21/2007 4:39:40 PM)
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ORIGINAL: yourGuardian
Whiplashsmile, SimplyMicheal I think you've took it in the way it was meant and you've got some interesting thoughts... people talking of "Domguilt" haha and "not all subs need" have missed the point slightly!! to provide every scenario would be about a 10,000 word post, I was trying to give you a flavour of my thoughts.... I'm gald to say a few hundred words isnt enough to capture my psyche. But whiplash... biological predisposition??? nahhh!! surely not!!
I think it's safe to assume that my biological predisposition exists to want to grab somebody and fuck their brains out. Hence, a natural urge to do said act. If anything growing up I had to deal with the social conditioning that it's wrong to play rough with little girls, yet have this urge of wanting to do. Strange, these feeling have always run hand and hand with sex. So, as I was saying. Social conditioning being taught that there urges are bad, add some spinkling of religious social conditioning, that these thoughts are sinful. If I tear down all the walls of human social conditioning and moral values, there is something dark and primal that lurks inside myself. Now, if I have these primal thoughts and simply taking somebody down by their hair and over powering them for what reason? To have Sex? Why, because I'm sexually drawn or attracted to them. Is not sexual desire a biological predisposition. Now, here's something that may sound off the wall, and I share in common with most of my 1/2 siblings. A high sex drive. Also, I have a bit of a high pain tolerence as my own mother does. Yes, I do enjoy some pain time to time myself. There's a bit of a natural body chemical reaction that occurs with pain, and I enjoy it? Clearly, there are many things, that are not part of my social conditioning as a whole. Mind you there are experiences, that I've gone through that refined me. I will never exclude Social experience or phyical, mental or emotional stimulation from having no or low effects upon the person I am today.
If you have done PHD level work as you claim, then you are aware of the brains neuro network, how it develops. You as also aware of certain genetic traits that are passed along as well. There is more to our genes than just, size, shape, hair color and whatnot that get passed along. It's clearly that the whole field of genetics has value and merit. There are people with PHD's that really go into details and study this. To be so bold that your PHD experience hold more merit over many other people's PHD, is actually rather.. Mmmmm.. I find rather humorous.
Somebody already mentioned this one though. It deals with the choice to be in this lifestyle or not. We do have choices over our own conduct and actions. Just because I see some hot babe, I feel drawn to taking by the hair, pulling her down to the floor and fucking her brains out, does not mean I will actually do this. Mind you, I've been properly social conditioned, I am also aware that this is another human being. Meaning I am not devoid of human compassion or a social consious. Now, if she had fantasies about being man handled and taked down to the floor and fucked in this manner, and her and I hooked up. Talked and discovered we shared this common urge, and this event occurred, what real harm has been caused to anybody.
In terms of D/s, I'm going to go Social Psychology on you here. In terms of groups of people looking for somebody to be in charge, be responsible, and make all the decisions. I'm also going to mention about those that are gravitate towards taking charge and those that run from it. In terms of D/s, this not only has been going on for thousands of years in one-on-one relationships but also with groups of people. How the Hell can this truely be morally wrong? Sure people do get exploited from time to time, power is and can be abused. There are cases where some people have and others don't abuse power. What actually is the truth, most of the time. That those in power have both used it for good and not so good reasons. A little more balanced view if one can understand both the good and bad co-exist in any human being at the same time.
For some people, the bad outweighs the good or vice versa. Amazing thing when one looks at history. Both the worse and best people in a given society are the ones that spend time in jail. They landed there because they are/were a threat to the established social structure or status quo.
So somebody Doms another person. Some people want to be Dommed, really simple when you come to terms with this desire or need another human being has. If two people with a common interest come together and base a relationship upon this. What is morally wrong? If two people want a D/s relationship, how can this be morally wrong.
If anything my friend, I would say you yourself are having an issue with your own social conditioning and experiences. Now you may sit there and ask yourself, are you fighting some natural instinct that is inside of you, or are you fighting some fucked experience you had as child? Have you considered why you are fighting with yourself at all over this? Perhaps, it's not the urges you are fighting with, but perhaps some moral social conditioning that's stuck inside your head, that boys are not supposed to play rough with little girls? That perhaps, you are dealing with guilt that's been instilled inside you, perhaps fear of doing something sinful in the context of the religion you knew growing up as a child? I do not pretend to know or understand you fully. I am just tossing out my thoughts, and some food for you to perhaps consider.
Yes, I will be the first to admit, I can be a smart ass at times. Yes, I even have more own shinning moments of arrogance, I even have my humble moments, I am even wrong about things, and there are times when I am right. There is a little bit of everything inside of me and who I am. I am human! or as a Black Flag song goes... "I'm not a machine, I'm not a machine, a machine..."
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