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Mike Vick - Help me understand... - 8/21/2007 11:03:43 AM

Mercnbeth

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I've seen a lot of angst and anger toward Michael Vick. What he organized and arranged was reprehensible, but 12 - 18 months in Federal prison? Does everyone believe this represents appropriate justice?

Maybe its because during the time its taken you to read this post tens of thousands of "domesticated" animals have been killed to provide such things as boneless chicken strips for your "happy meals". The response; "Yeah - but this was just for entertainment."; should see and read what occurs daily at dog and horse race tracks for entertainment purposes. The "retirement" of a slow dog or slow horse is not much different than what happened to the "weak" dogs at 'Bad Newz Kennels'.

Michael Vick has done more for PETA than any poster of emaciated nude fur-less models.

Compare Vick's likely penalty to this:

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Rams defensive end Leonard Little -- who ran a red light drunk and killed another motorist, Susan Gutweiler -- pleaded guilty of involuntary manslaughter in June 1999, was sentenced to 90 nights in jail as part of a work-release program, 1,000 hours of community service and four years of probation. He was suspended for eight games in 1999 because he violated the NFL's substance-abuse policy.

Forget the hypocrisy of those condemning Vick and discussing how he should rot in prison while dining on a 'humanly' killed cow. What he did was terrible. I don't want to rationalize the acceptance of dog fighting as a 'cultural' difference. However I think making this a Federal case speaks of overkill. Make him fund ASPCA kennels and pay for a State wide spay/neutering program. I can think of many appropriate penalties and he deserves to pay; but 12-18 months? Killing dogs gets you more time than killing people? Somehow this is difficult for me to accept.

Does this situation indicate that if OJ had killed Nicole's dog he would have gone to prison too?

DISCLAIMER: The OP doesn't own a gun, never hunted, and aways buried dead gold fish and never flushed them or swallowed live ones. However, I am a carnivore, and wearer of leather. No animals were injured by me during this post, however, I did pinch beth's nipples this morning. I also think it important to point out I am also NOT an Atlanta Falcon fan, or even a Mike Vick fan. I'm only a pragmatic observer.

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RE: Mike Vick - Help me understand... - 8/21/2007 11:41:58 AM

soultoshare

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Personally, the bastard needs to do time in a state prison.....not a Club Fed. Funding for the ASPCA isn't such a bad idea either.

I am fully aware of what happens to "retired" dogs and horses when they can no longer run.....it's sickening. Thank God for the greyhound adoption folks, and the ones who do the same for racehorses.

As far as the note about the difference in sentencing....as far as I'm concerned, as long as you have money or fame, you aren't going to serve any significant time in any prison, only getting community service, fines and not much else. There will be no justice until everyone is held to the same standards of accountability for their actions, and we all know that's never gonna happen. Makes me wonder where we are all headed as a society.

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RE: Mike Vick - Help me understand... - 8/21/2007 11:58:14 AM

Satyr6406

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I think there's something wrong with a society in which animals have more "rights" than humans. I'm sorry but, I believe that animals were put on this earth to use as we see fit.

Yes, that also endows us with an obligation but, as Merc said: People kill animals, every day to put food on our plates; to make clothing for us; to make shoes, belts, sneakers, handbags, all kinds of stuff.

My only objection to dog fighting is the fact that there appears to be lots of suffering for the losing (or even the winning) animals. However, have you ever observed wolves, in the wild? Dogs behave violently with one another, sometimes. It's NATURal.

If an animal is so horribly injured and in pain that killing them is the humane thing to do, why is that part of this an issue, at all. If I am walking down a street and see a dog that's just been "dropped" after a dog fight, in that condition, I would probably euthanize it, myself. How is that wrong?

As far as helping you understand Mike Vick, I don't know if I can. I don't get it. I don't think dog fighting should be AS criminal an act as it is treated but, he certainly knew he was breaking laws. Like it or not, a law is a law.

When it comes to celebrities breaking the law and getting "special treatment"? I think they should get special treatment. I think they should, by default, receive maximum sentences to serve as examples. Look at it this way: Is it more of a crime if Donald Trump fleeces me out of $100.00 or if he steals $500,000 from a corporation like Time Warner? He's done more harm to me. For that, he should serve more time, all by itself but, if they "throw the book at him", his fellows with think a little harder before they fleece the next guy.

Peace and comfort,

Michael

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