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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/22/2007 7:34:37 PM   
BoiJen


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Status: offline 		Being provided for isn't the point. I think women who are into financial slavery are there not because they cannot support themselves, they are there because they CAN. Period. Slaves work reg jobs that pay them cash on hand to aid to the benefit of the house hold. Period. NO ONE gets a free fuckin ride. Being a slave is a job unto itself as well. We work hard for the women in charge. Another period. 

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/22/2007 7:51:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MiRoMe

Hello Mistresses,
                         I've been skimming over the profiles for a while and I've noticed lots of dominant women are wanting "Financial Slaves".
I know it is in their prerogative to seek out such things; however I can't help but feel that a dominant should be in total control of the household and not have to rely on someone else to pay their bills for them.


Assumptions, assumptions.  Where are these women stating that they can't pay their own bills or need to rely on their sub's income in any way?  That's your bias showing.

Personally, I allow no partner to pay my way be they my vanilla spouse (dual dominant household) or a slave.  However, I do require any sub/slave that aims to be owned by me to be a financial slave among their other services. 

Money and who has the say over its use is an important part of a person's life -especially with many males it is a near, dear, and tender issue.

The fact that there is this and an endless stream of threads like it is an excellent example of why financial domination is so enjoyable:  it's a touchy, taboo area for many.

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 4:04:31 AM   
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I have not been on Collarme for a great length of time, and I am more of a lurker, but I have already seen this topic just beaten to death, and then some. It seems like it’s mentioned almost daily in Ask A Mistress.

What is it with the almost seeming obsessiveness in some of the male posters with anything regarding money and female domination? In denial perhaps? Struggling with the realisation of thier own emerging fetish? ;-). Passive aggression maybe?

(Just in case it didn’t come across, the last paragraph was said tongue in cheek lol, nor was it directed at the OP).

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 5:05:36 AM   
YesMistressIrish


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Status: offline 		The OP is 19 and this is a quote from his profile: 'I love to argue/debate (when I'm not in a submissive mood).'
 I guess the op was not in a submissive mood. 

The OP states: however I can't help but feel that a dominant should be in total control of the household and not have to rely on someone else to pay their bills for them. 
In my opinion dominants should be able to provide for their slaves, or at least provide a mutually funded household.
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The Op Likes to argue, so this might be the fastest way to get what he likes. *wink
Two should's about what dominants should do two sentences in a row. Any Dominant gets their needs met how they need to, whatever those needs may be for that particular Dominant. Period.
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And Akaasha said this: My man is the one who feels absolutely saddled with the sole responsibility of *keeping me happy* -- at any cost. 
So, OP, she never said a Dominant should support a sub/slave.
 
Most men have a hard time relinquishing real control, no matter how much they may fantasize for years about giving it up to a Domme. Most men will still continue to use women if they are allowed to. Financial domination curbs this bad habit.
 
This subject springs up like a vomitorium.

I say: More power to anything that empowers women.
And, many lifestyle dommes become pro-dommes to protect themselves from feeling used by men.
 
I have respect for any woman that refuses to feel used, in any way, by any man.
 
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< Message edited by YesMistressIrish -- 8/23/2007 5:12:00 AM >

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 6:27:21 AM   
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There are a lot of absolutes in your brief opening question MiRoMe. Lots of “should”’s. People are different, and even though you may disagree and have your opinions on such matters, doesn’t deter from the fact that not everyone wants to live by or agree to your standards.

My opinion is that as long as it’s consensual and makes all parties involved happy, more power to ‘em. I also feel it’s none of my business.

But when I see a houseboy type profiles, and some male sub stating he feels it’s his Dommes job to provide for him financially, I read ‘lazy freeloader’, and ‘opportunist’, or ‘ I want a career change’, or ‘looking for greencard’, or someone to delicate to cope in the real world. Just my opinion, and I have nothing against those types, and indeed, their are some Dommes that would enjoy financially supporting their sub. And, vice versa, there are male subs who enjoy financially supporting there Domme. Each to their own.

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 7:20:32 AM   
MiRoMe


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Status: offline 		I suppose there is that. Hmmm
I really should have been more clear, the profile/s I saw (which I did try to look for today with no avail) were women wanting about ten different slaves. One for gardening, housework, one for sex, one to pay her bills etc etc. That to me seemed just as lazy as the caged sub scenario.
Oh well thanks for the discussion. I'll try not to make a repeat offender thread again. (I will make one tho if the information I'm seeking is different than what I can find using the search function.)
I was attacked via PM for this thread by the way, luckily the offender had no grasp on how to use her keyboard so the message was left unreadable.


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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 9:22:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MiRoMe

Hello Mistresses,
                         I've been skimming over the profiles for a while and I've noticed lots of dominant women are wanting "Financial Slaves".
I know it is in their prerogative to seek out such things; however I can't help but feel that a dominant should be in total control of the household and not have to rely on someone else to pay their bills for them.
In my opinion dominants should be able to provide for their slaves, or at least provide a mutually funded household.
What is the majority’s opinion on financial slaves and how do you individually feel about them?


Yes this topic has been discussed,but it is true sometimes new things can come of an old conversation.

My personal opinion on a financial slave is I really dont want one.
I would rather have a live in submissive/slave who contributed whichever way possible.
Bringing in some money would be good,the actual paying bills is a duty assigned to Punk.

Again in My opinion..delagating responsibility to a submissive/slave is being in control.I work in the Dungeon most days...I want someone who can take a list of things to do and go do them.

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 10:02:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wished that my wife would one of the "Disiplinary Wives Club" and be the one controlling me in life and in the Disipline Department,I long for her to be in charge and to control me(much like a Domme),I want to do her laundry,wash her undies,stockings,bras,etc. and do the housework for her and do of the other things for her.I would also expect to be disiplined by her, just like a Domme would to her subbie,taken over her knee and spanked untill I cried,then sent to my bed without supper.Also would expect her to find other ways to punish me,whip,flogger,cane,paddle, I am sure that it would make me a much better husband and make me to look up to her and  be a good husband in the future>

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 1:27:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: scottyguy506

I wished that my wife would one of the "Disiplinary Wives Club" and be the one controlling me in life and in the Disipline Department,I long for her to be in charge and to control me(much like a Domme),I want to do her laundry,wash her undies,stockings,bras,etc. and do the housework for her and do of the other things for her.I would also expect to be disiplined by her, just like a Domme would to her subbie,taken over her knee and spanked untill I cried,then sent to my bed without supper.Also would expect her to find other ways to punish me,whip,flogger,cane,paddle, I am sure that it would make me a much better husband and make me to look up to her and  be a good husband in the future>


Instead of  waiting to be told to do it...how about just doing it.
See what happens,perhaps it could open up some communication.
Dont think that one or two times is going to always get noticed.
Make it a habit to do things to show your devotion,usually it gets returned
patience is good to have while going through the process.

The punishment may take time to come so again be patient.
Best of luck.


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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 1:52:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsLilac
I have already seen this topic just beaten to death, and then some. It seems like it’s mentioned almost daily in Ask A Mistress.

What is it with the almost seeming obsessiveness in some of the male posters with anything regarding money and female domination? In denial perhaps? Struggling with the realisation of thier own emerging fetish? ;-). Passive aggression maybe?

(Just in case it didn’t come across, the last paragraph was said tongue in cheek lol, nor was it directed at the OP).
Welcome to the boards.
I agree with all of the above posters on page 2 anyway, in that no dominant woman should permit herself dominated by some non-submitting, or cheap, or passive aggressive boy. 
Obviously we are all different, and seek different things within a relationship; so, if the lady who says you must surrender your paycheck in addition to your hard work and body is abusive in your opinion, simply do not submit to her.      M

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 2:17:44 PM   
MsLilac


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMaam

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsLilac
I have already seen this topic just beaten to death, and then some. It seems like it’s mentioned almost daily in Ask A Mistress.

What is it with the almost seeming obsessiveness in some of the male posters with anything regarding money and female domination? In denial perhaps? Struggling with the realisation of thier own emerging fetish? ;-). Passive aggression maybe?

(Just in case it didn’t come across, the last paragraph was said tongue in cheek lol, nor was it directed at the OP).
Welcome to the boards.



Thank you for the welcome :)

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 3:32:05 PM   
YesMistressIrish


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Status: offline 		MsLilac,

Your said: Each to their own. 

That's the bottom line, isn't it? *smile
Welcome to the boards. Hope you have a blast.

MI

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 3:42:33 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear MiRoMe, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I do understand why financial slaves are a draw for the same reason why so many men expect women to be the 'work horse' and be the one who brings the bacon as well as cook it and serve it to men, in a general sense.
 
I really take financial slave issues on an individual basis, as some men who whine about participating in financial matters are seen in my mind's eyes as useless as a little boy and I the single parent.  If I wanted to be financially responsible for someone, I would have to say--I am doing that now by taking care of a parent who didn't plan to live long and now my money is paying for their comfort--and sucks the life out of my future when I am old, alone and in my tarnished golden years.  I don't need an able body man or woman to be avoiding employment and live off others under the guise of slavery and or solve an immigration issue by coming over under the guise of service and or employment when it was just skirting the hassle of complying with the laws.
 
In addition, pay for women is still unequal.  Men do make more even when women do the same exact thing and at times more. 
 
There are slaves though, who are awful with keeping their money matters straight.  Sometimes it can be considered being a financial slave when they hand over the checkbook and money to let a successful Dominant manage it.  In such cases, investing in money markets and treasury bills I act as an agent/representative for a slave--I earn extra dollars for a slave's financial health.  What is increasingly seen though, men won't often do the same for women.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 3:46:08 PM   
MsLilac


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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish

MsLilac,

Your said: Each to their own. 

That's the bottom line, isn't it? *smile
Welcome to the boards. Hope you have a blast.

MI


Exactly :-)

Thank you very much for the welcome also :-D

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 5:06:57 PM   
kc692


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ORIGINAL: MiRoMe

Just thought I'd point out something I noticed.
It says when editting my profile I cannot mention Financial Slavery.
Are these rules lax or is it possible they all mentioned FS in their journals? (I am not sure on the rules for journals since I haven't had the need to write one yet)



There is a report button at the bottom of each profile, it is up to members to report those in violation.

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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/23/2007 9:52:57 PM   
MzAri


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Status: offline 		As I see it, I work to support myself and my cats. 
I don't spend much on toys because an inanimate piece of latex doesn't give me much pleasure.
If a slave is eager to have his ass fucked with my strap-on, the least he can do is pay for the lube.
I am perfectly comfortable in sneakers and jeans; if a slave feels I should be dressed in leather & stiletto heels then he can provide these. 
He can also provide his own food, shelter, etc. I've had more than enough letters from men who want to live in 24/7 slavery and I am sorely tempted to tell them to get an entry level job with Disney.



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RE: Kept Mistress - 8/24/2007 3:38:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly I wouldn't mind being a house husband, or a 'kept sub'.

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