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ocilla -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 7:12:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ocilla Very good to know to be aware that it is a hot trend at the moment - kind of like chicks kissing in bars, the whole lesbian obsession, m2f anal of years past. I think you are on to something with that. quote: ORIGINAL littlesarbonnsupersubsecretagentauteurtuffdom Wait! Tell me more about this "chicks kissing in bars" thing! Man, I hate that I live such a sheltered life here in the convent. LOL - ya know the convent I'm in is a bit sheltered as well so my best reference is sadly just television and hearing stories from the young interns at work. I have a vague memory of scandal around Britney and Madonna snogging on a award show and of course the ever present *girls gone wild infomercials* that I always wake up to if I fall asleep in front of the tube. Kinda sad huh.

bound4u2use -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 8:10:41 PM)
After reading both posts on this subject, i can tell You that the second time i took a strap on, it was with two women, using two strap ons. Completely took me by surprise, as i thought they were just going to bring me into a fun vanilla threesome. Sure enough, they convinced me to put my hands above my head, handcuffed me, then tied my legs to the headboard as well. They took turns on me, but not using anything huge. I was awesome! To this day, i don't really go for anything big, although, i'd like to be trained to take more, just for uhhhh bragging rights, i guess. i'm not sure that qualifies for gangbang, but the girls i took it from said they enjoyed it. For the record, i did come a couple times, and i want to experience somethign like that again, but it wasn't "that" amazing.

DianeB269 -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 8:16:34 PM)
Sounds like you had a good time and more important, they knew what they were doing using smaller strapons on you for your first time. Yes, two girls qualifies as a gangbang. Diane

ocilla -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 8:51:44 PM)
Wow, yall are amazing me with your personal experiences. The pain puppy part of that make sense in terms of wanting to take something bigger. And you relentless banging was even too much for you the pain pup. You might want to go visit Diane if you want to give it a try again. Based on her threads - including the most recent one from wince this thread sprung - she is no nonsense tough but knows how far is maybe too far even when a sub does not know. I am so making my slut read this post. Really great info jordan - think my slut will find it very useful. I encouarge him to read Diane's posts but think this will resonate with him more. quote: ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler As far as size goes, going bigger and bigger is something I do like to do. For me, it's not really a guy thing, as much as just testing my limits - to see how deep I can take it and how wide I can stretch to take the width. Even though I can get a nice, tight feeling from something normal, I just want to see how much more I can take. Since I'm also a pain slut, the larger and larger strap-ons/dildos are going to hurt, and that is something I like. So the pain is wonderful, and when you add that with being able to just stretch a little further each time, that's great for me. I did do the strap-on gangbang once, although it was probably more of a mini, as it was with three women. I can't say it exactly lived up to the fantasy, and that was mostly because of how much pain I was in. Because there were three of them, the pounding was just relentless. When one would get tired, they just moved to my mouth and another took over. If it was just one woman, I'd get a break, but with multiples, I didn't get a break. In addition to the pain, I was so sore I couldn't walk or sit when it was done, it took longer than normal for the stretching to reduce, and I was torn and bleeding a little. That wasn't too bad actually - it was the pain and soreness that was the worst. It took days to recover from it. I couldn't really complain because I asked for it, but I guess I wasn't totally expecting it to be that abusive on my anus and rectum. I don't believe I would do it again, although maybe if they weren't quite as rough as they were that time I would do it again. But there is most definitely a difference in orgasms. I have the most intense orgasms from anal play and stimulation. They are full-body, shaking orgasms and I've come close to passing out a few times from them. I don't come anywhere close to that through masturbation or "normal" sex.

ocilla -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 8:55:53 PM)
Learning so much from yall. And yeah - the fisting is a whole different ball of wax I have found. A whole lot more intense and interesting for me as the fister than has been strapon to date. You put into words the gangbang peice very eloquently. Very helpful. Thx. quote: ORIGINAL: Drifa quote: ORIGINAL: ocilla Ya know - I just don't get the obsession with male subs of strap on dildo size and being gang banged. I'm a woman, so I can't speak for the male perspective. I do note that while a gangbang plays well in the fantasy in my head, that in reality there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. At the same time, I do enjoy being fisted... that's some size, but it's not the size that I'm after there, it's the intensity and the whole experience of what my Lady is doing, the time she's taking with me, and so forth. Following some fantasy play not too long ago, my Lady got me three dildos... big, huge, and freaking enormous, and she worked with me on accepting those, gradually going bigger. This was not about pounding hard sex, more slow gentle stuff that was designed to test the limits of my submission and trust. This is not something I ever want to do unprepared, or hard and fast, or very often. But it was incredibly intense. To me, a gangbang is kind of objectification - the bangee is rather depersonalized, an object used by the gang. There's an element of humiliation there for sure. There's also the theme of being overwhelmed and completely possessed. Maybe the best way to handle the fantasy is blindfolding and a lot of verbal description playing with the theme?

Cuckme4Life -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 9:06:00 PM)
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SubJordanTyler -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/22/2007 10:13:07 PM)
You're very welcome - and I hope it helps. Yes - the pain slut in me wanted to push my stretching limits to see just how far I could go, as that pain was a turn on and I enjoyed it a lot. I've been fisted to the elbow and taken a baseball bat inside me, and it was all about the pain and just seeing how far I could stretch. And every time it went further, I loved it more. But the pain during the gangbang was different because it was so much rougher. Instead of slowly using a thick object to stretch, they were pushing the strap-ons in and out of me with speed and force - so it hurt a lot. And keeping it going and going just made it hurt more and probably led to everything else. I was also very experienced anally at the time and those things still happened, so it does pay to be careful. I did recover fine, but it was a couple of long days of being very sore and being aware not to tear anything further. It led me to know that I do still have limits. If it could be done right, I would do it again for sure. quote: ORIGINAL: ocilla Wow, yall are amazing me with your personal experiences. The pain puppy part of that make sense in terms of wanting to take something bigger. And you relentless banging was even too much for you the pain pup. You might want to go visit Diane if you want to give it a try again. Based on her threads - including the most recent one from wince this thread sprung - she is no nonsense tough but knows how far is maybe too far even when a sub does not know. I am so making my slut read this post. Really great info jordan - think my slut will find it very useful. I encouarge him to read Diane's posts but think this will resonate with him more. quote: ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler As far as size goes, going bigger and bigger is something I do like to do. For me, it's not really a guy thing, as much as just testing my limits - to see how deep I can take it and how wide I can stretch to take the width. Even though I can get a nice, tight feeling from something normal, I just want to see how much more I can take. Since I'm also a pain slut, the larger and larger strap-ons/dildos are going to hurt, and that is something I like. So the pain is wonderful, and when you add that with being able to just stretch a little further each time, that's great for me. I did do the strap-on gangbang once, although it was probably more of a mini, as it was with three women. I can't say it exactly lived up to the fantasy, and that was mostly because of how much pain I was in. Because there were three of them, the pounding was just relentless. When one would get tired, they just moved to my mouth and another took over. If it was just one woman, I'd get a break, but with multiples, I didn't get a break. In addition to the pain, I was so sore I couldn't walk or sit when it was done, it took longer than normal for the stretching to reduce, and I was torn and bleeding a little. That wasn't too bad actually - it was the pain and soreness that was the worst. It took days to recover from it. I couldn't really complain because I asked for it, but I guess I wasn't totally expecting it to be that abusive on my anus and rectum. I don't believe I would do it again, although maybe if they weren't quite as rough as they were that time I would do it again. But there is most definitely a difference in orgasms. I have the most intense orgasms from anal play and stimulation. They are full-body, shaking orgasms and I've come close to passing out a few times from them. I don't come anywhere close to that through masturbation or "normal" sex.

Drifa -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/23/2007 12:43:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ocilla Learning so much from yall. And yeah - the fisting is a whole different ball of wax I have found. A whole lot more intense and interesting for me as the fister than has been strapon to date. I've found that instead of a strap-on, one of the double-ended dildos that provide good clitoral stimulation makes the experience a lot more fun for me when I'm doing someone else. With some of the good ones you still use the strap-on harness, but there's even a type that does not require a harness that works pretty well.

jerbee -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/23/2007 9:30:03 PM)
"And I am willing to bet that *few if any* fellas have actually experienced a strap on gang bang." Quite right. I have, however, experienced a straight (well, if you can call 50 guys and 8 or so girls 'straight') gangbang in Amsterdam when I was visiting there one one of.. many.. excursions. To be honest, it was a letdown. I had really expected more out of something so hyped up about by the porn industry and internet sites. Admittedly, it was at a sex club, and it did have more middle to older-aged men there than anyone else, but I suppose I've seen so many scenes in which it's all glamourous people and interesting locales that it was rather... disappointing.

aidan -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (8/24/2007 4:43:10 AM)
I've never really had rape fantasies, that is, fantasies about being forced/coerced into sex with a strange woman or women. I have had gangbang or forced sex fantasies about Women I know, though. It's never been a kidnapped-and-left-on-the-side-of-the-road deal. More personal and intimate (though intimate may not be the right word). I think it stems from the fact that sometimes, I just want to be perverse and dirty for the sake of being perverse and dirty. I want to be simply used and "abused", to be an object of entertainment. I want to feel filthy and bad, just plain bad, and to revel in it. It's a cathartic fantasy, but I have no idea how well it would pan out to a real-life situation, because at least one person (hopefully all of them) involved would have to be somebody I trust enough to be there for me afterwards, because it could go to a really bad place really quickly if there wasn't some damn-good aftercare. I don't know if the gangbang fantasy is one I'd ever play out, I would have to have been with somebody a lot longer and at least have spent some time with the other people involved. A one-on-one forced sex thing, however, would probably be something I'd sign up for with the right person. Still not something you're gonna try the first six months, though (at least from where I'm sitting now).

musikman1 -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 5:30:48 AM)
Ms ocilla, You said: And I was thinking a gangbang was always a rape - so that alone offers some education. I'm blushing, but as a "red blooded American boy" that has looked around the 'Net for (cough) "video demonstration files," (cough cough) that you will find that 90+% of gangbang videos (or so I've HEARD, of course) are "consensual," many times, where the girl is trying to "set a record." There's one video out there with one girl and 300 guys (the "making of" extra is interesting, including the interview with her fiance, the porn producer - they were getting married the next day?). There are really (in my perverse voyeuristic experience) very few "gangbang rape" type vids out there, which would possibly indicate that the consensual gangbang is more popular/prevalent than the fantasy rape gangbang... This is just a report from the ether.. mm1

littlebitxxx -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 3:53:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ocilla Too Ivy: No your response is helpful. I was hoping women subs would weigh in. And I was thinking a gangbang was always a rape - so that alone offers some education. And I can fathom the mental versus physical stimulation. Thanks - not gibberish at all. A consented gang bang would not be a typical rape scene. If she knew she was going into it, I mean. I'm thinking it would be just a whole lot of fun. A rape scene is a rape scene and I think is more mental than physical. When you're with your Master, how can you not be safe? The edge, the force, the total mindfuck if it's done right would be exhilirating.

FRSguy -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 4:05:30 PM)
Male orgasms differ wildly ... some are nothing some are just plain wild. The dildo has to press hard against the prostate that way the man releases more prostate fluid with his orgasm. This seems to cause the prostate to shrink and can leave a man feeling that he has been drained of every drop. Lets just say hand job might give you a few drops compared to an orgasm with a prostate massage where the come seems to cum and cum and cum and cum. The difference is that when a man cums the orgasm is partially based on the volume of semen. The more semen the more squirts the more squirts the more muscle contractions and the more muscle contractions the longer in length the orgasm lasts... also with the higher volume is an increase in the chances of having multiple orgasms. Also when you have a really thick object in there it gives you the feeling like if you move your going to get killed so there is motivation of be still and take it. I have never actually taken a strap on and never would because I am a Dominant that loves dildos ...lol. Anywho, Male orgasms can be very very complicated and comes in all different styles and types. Like woman, these orgasms are better achieved using different methods. Sorry ... this is done very quickly and I didnt read all the posts.

hardbodysub -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 6:25:28 PM)
I don't think the obsession with strap on dildo size is as common as you seem to think. Interest in strap on sex, being taken by a woman, is definitely common. It's an excitement about being taken in a most intimate and humiliating way for most guys. I don't think the size of the dildo is such a big issue for most sub males interested in strapon, unless the thing is so damn big that it hurts too much.

LASub4Real -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 8:08:46 PM)
I once had that "size thing" in my head and bought a large sized dildo for a Mistress to use on me. Honestly, I had to spend ALL of my attention and energy trying to force myself to relax against a VERY uncomfortable ride. It wasn't an injury thing, it was just this rhythmic pain/discomfort that kept on going. I have to say, that I got very little out of it. I was just too uncomfortable to be turned on!! Of course, some time afterward, when I was able to reflect on it without the pain, worry and caution it seemed more sexy to me. Ridiculous.

feralcat -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/10/2007 8:29:43 PM)
Drifa I agree with your point about the objectification. From what I get from men I know,the gang bang is about just being an object,being used for the women's enjoyment, "just" a toy, holes filled beyond what is desired...perhaps it is also about being wanted by women...more than one...and not emotional control,more physical, controlling him beyond what he would "enjoy".Sometimes fantasy is better left as just that ,fantasy.

rup4it -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/11/2007 12:42:47 PM)
i have had two mistress have turn about with a strapon with me and yes it did turn me on . i would have had more if there was more mistresses around, it is a sub male (in my case) fantasy to be gang bang raped by many mistresses

laurell3 -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/11/2007 1:59:51 PM)
While as a sub I have done the group thing with carefully selected friends of myself and my Dom, I don't share my toys when I switch, so I can't answer the strapon thing. I have heard men say this before: "Oh yeah - the other thing my slut said this weekend is that for guys, cumming is cumming and it is all awesome - one orgasm's not any better than the other - this followed a discussion of g-spot versus clitoral orgasm for women. " but they're all been vanilla and I have found it to be very much not the case in the bdsm sense, especially with orgasm control and denial. l

flowspen -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/11/2007 2:20:42 PM)
i have yet to experience a strap on but i have the fantasies the OP spoke of. i think i view both the gangbang and rape fantasy the same even though in real life they are very different. Maybe because i fantasized about a gangbang rape experience. My first thoughts on Your question is that for one in my mind it will totally dominant me, i will have no control, i will have a sense of having no power over myself at all. i have always wanted to have that feeling of having no choice, no power and i have thought that this experience would produce that desired affect. Also it is just sexy thinking about a gang of women strapping me, You have to see the appeal of that to be used in such a way? i think it would be mind blowing to no end Orgasims well i think there are different levels of them. Some are much more intense than others, especially if there is a lot of foreplay build up before hand vs. just squeezing one out. The more the mind is into the better it is also. If one rides the waves where they get to that point of orgasim and then stop and then continue repeadedly the orgasim is very deep and hard and much more enjoyable.

lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: strapon and gangbang insight sought from male and female subs (10/11/2007 3:34:53 PM)
I know to many who also like big and size i think size doesnt matter but i just am not gong to make a coment on this i plead the 5th

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