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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:14:42 AM   
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In all honesty, I've had a dark fantasy similar to this, but it did not involve breaking the law or forced dirty escourting in the real time.   In regards to WebCam and PhoneSex operator, Yeah, I've had fantasies about having somebody do this.   However, I would not pull a Steve Miller "Take the Money and Run" as your mistress did with you.   However, if this is the type of humilation that turns you on, all the power to you.  Some people enjoy being finacially Dommed, or should I say Doomed. 

The money factor, does not have very much play in this dark fantasy of mine, but rather all the other kinky aspects of webcams and phonesex.   Now, this is on my Dark Fantasy list.  Is it a must for me, No!  Will I insist somebody does this, No!  Will I force anybody to do this, No, not unless they are into this fantasy and I feel comfortable with it.  This fantasy is by no means a deal breaker for me, and it's not an expectation of mine to ever full fill.   I sure know sitting in jail is not a fantasy of mine.   

NO, I have no interests in owning a Male or Transgender Slave (comment in event said OP is a Troll AKA person who's only intent is to pick up others through means of a message board posting).

This is all I have to say about this subject.  Whips sunglasses back on - CSI Miami style of course -
hits on button of Boom Box...  "Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do when the come for you".. leaves the room and exits the building blasting the theme song for the "Cops" TV reality show.

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:16:15 AM   
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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:17:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		ITs all good if the proper steps are taken. And Domi guy has it best.. you just offer her to them and his friends as payment..

Seriosuly, there are many ways to do this without worrying about the law. Rent a hotel room, set up times.. make sure that its not "MONEY' up front.. but donations for the party favors. (what they dont need to know is that she's the only party favor)
Has helped this happen for a wicked little girl I know. (chuckles) And have a few friends that needs some assistenace in making their dreams cum true.. no pun intneded. (laughs)


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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:21:42 AM   
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Heck no! I go vintage...Karate Kid!!


Thats awsome.... ok on a serious note if you are a Shue fan... you really should check out Leaving Las Vegas... she was excellent in the role... and it has very nice D/s tones.

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:23:13 AM   
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Heck no! I go vintage...Karate Kid!!


Thats awsome.... ok on a serious note if you are a Shue fan... you really should check out Leaving Las Vegas... she was excellent in the role... and it has very nice D/s tones.


Its a great movie. .and yes.. some very subtle and one instance of blatent D/s undertones.


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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:34:10 AM   
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I can't seem to get this word association out of my mind now..

Whorefication -  Red Hot Chili Peppers

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:40:36 AM   
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Doesn't the entire notion of "forced whorification" go right out the window if the hair is not even a little messed up?


Doesn't the notion of "forced" go right out the window if the OP gets excited by and seeks this type of treatment?

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:44:58 AM   
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Doesn't the entire notion of "forced whorification" go right out the window if the hair is not even a little messed up?


Doesn't the notion of "forced" go right out the window if the OP gets excited by and seeks this type of treatment?



Now, Now, the OP is simply trying to get a quick humiliation fix for the day. 

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:49:55 AM   
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what do u think about this kind of humilation


It doesn't actually sound very humiliating to you, but just wait until it actually becomes a burdensome job. I bet all the fun of it runs out fast.


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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 9:57:56 AM   
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Doesn't the notion of "forced" go right out the window if the OP gets excited by and seeks this type of treatment?


I would say mostly yes - the forced portion is belittled by the reality of the OP desiring and craving that type of use. Hence, new dimensions could be entered that would re-introduce the notion of forced, e.g., the use by individuals that the OP would initially find repulsive.

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 10:04:43 AM   
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(starts singing to the rythm of the old Rawhide Theme song)... Get it on... Get it in... Get it up... DON'T MESS MY HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR UPPPPPPPPPPP!!!! (giggles)



Reminds me of the day hubby wanted sex, when I was totally in a crappy mood. My sexy talk was, "Okay, but get on.....get OFF......don't touch me any more than you have to......and none of that foreplay shit!"

Wonder if I'd make a good Ho?

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 10:26:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Being as this is a 'shock' post, I'll keep my statements short, since I'm not entirely sure people are going to do much besides react to the OP.

The issue of sex workers in the lifestyle only recently died down here on CM  A quick look at

Sex Workers in the BDSM and D/s Lifestyles - http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1189196

and

Strippers, Prostitutes, and Coin Girls. -  http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1187315

Carry pretty extensive looks at the whole debate, though neither seem to address the act as a kink.

For those who missed it, the OP is not a woman; she's a man (or transgendered, she can't make up her mind.)  It's not a knock against her; but I think it illustrates that when you opt to be with a prostitute, make sure the contents reflect the label.

For those who poo pooed the issue on legal grounds, I can honestly say I'd much prefer being arrested for prostitution than for assualt.  The games we usually play?  They ain't legal folks, no matter how much we think they should be.  The holier than-thou-attitudes were supposed to be left in the closet when y'all came out.  There's far greater physical risk from a 'bad Dom' than there is from an ordinary john.

The 'forced' aspect is not new to the scene either.  People enjoy 'play rape' and 'forced feminization' and 'forced watersports' and 'forced-being-chained-to-a-gas-stove-while-having-tomatoes-thrown-at-you.'  I'd say on the 'forced' scale, sex would be one of the less painful or distasteful.  To whit, if I were genuinely interested in this sort of relationship as a submissive, I would make damn sure I trusted whoever was doing this with me.  As a dominant, I doubt very much I'd enjoy sending a Ron Jeremy lookalike troll in to use my slave, even if he was paying two grand for it.

On some levels, this is a kink I share.  Probably not for nearly the same reasons or depth as the OPs, but I do dislike the trend that one's inability to eloquantly state a desire, somehow invalidates it.

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 10:31:13 AM   
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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 10:50:49 AM   
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For those who poo pooed the issue on legal grounds, I can honestly say I'd much prefer being arrested for prostitution than for assualt.  The games we usually play?  They ain't legal folks, no matter how much we think they should be.  The holier than-thou-attitudes were supposed to be left in the closet when y'all came out.  There's far greater physical risk from a 'bad Dom' than there is from an ordinary john.

 
Definately. I really think it should be legal anyway, athough I do think there is a greater risk to being caught at prostitution than engaging in BDSM. Particularly since they didn't say how they are going about it. If they want to go the street-walker route, I still think having bail money ready is a good idea.

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:13:40 AM   
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cops bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do whatcha gonna do when they come for you.. lol  check your local listings we need dog the bounty hunter on this one


I think I could comfortably wager a nice sum on which of us spent more time in County there, buckaroo.

Hi Aquatic,

Obviously the laws vary state to state, but Assault is usually a Felony, while prostitution is a misdemeanor.  The former means a minimum prison sentance, the other typically a night in jail.  I'd gladly pay the few hundred bucks bond on a prostitution charge, than the few thousand on assault.  I figure it's the difference between driving a car, and a motorcycle; motorcycles get in far fewer accidents, but when they do......

Also, anyone who wants/supports a streetwalking form of prostitution, in my opinion, is taking too great a risk, especially for a kink.  That doesn't mean people won't/don't try to do it; ironically, the biggest danger won't be the johns, but rather the competition and their pimps.

Stephan


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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:14:10 AM   
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For those who poo pooed the issue on legal grounds, I can honestly say I'd much prefer being arrested for prostitution than for assualt.  The games we usually play?  They ain't legal folks, no matter how much we think they should be.  The holier than-thou-attitudes were supposed to be left in the closet when y'all came out.  There's far greater physical risk from a 'bad Dom' than there is from an ordinary john.


In terms of a one-on-one BDSM relationship, only two people are involved in what is going on.  When prositution is involved many people are involved, even complete strangers.  Now, sure there's ordinary John, but is he really?  Mmmm... could be an undercover police officer.  Perhaps there's another ordinary John, he's not really mentally stable, he end up flipping out and beating the sub/slave 1/2 to death.  She goes to the hospital, the police are involved, John the menatlly not so stable gets arrested and confesses to everything.  You're busted.   
 
Now with a trusting mutal D/s one-on-one relationship, one is not a great risk of getting busted at home in private.   Ok think of it like this, some dude that sits at home smoke pot in private.  He grows a small amount of it hidden compartment in his basement, and never buys it from a dealer.   Now, what if he were to get out on the streets and start selling the pot he grows for profit?  He would be exposing himself to more and more people everyday, thus increasing the statistical Odds of him being arrested.  It's only a matter of time before he attracts the attention of law enforcement, and he becomes watched, followed or otherwise observed.

I think I am making a fair and logical comparison.  yes, I'm staying focused solely upon the legal issue at hand. 

Let's say some Domly Master, forces his slave into prostition.  He's just uped the list of possiable multicharges that could be filed against him.   Sure you said you rather be busted for prostition then for assault.   How about having both of them charged against you at the same time, seems a bit like a two for one special or more that could on.  Oh wait, the slave decides now is the time to up and leave you and tells the police you were forcing her.   Perhaps some other charges such as "human traffiking", "kidnapping", "unlawful imprisonment" and whatever else the D.A. finds on the books to throw at you.   I think at this point and time, I'd be praying to God it had been just a simple assault charge.

I don't know, perhaps I'm really not very intelligent or bright or something.  Perhaps I have my own head shoved up a Holier-than-thou place.  Strange, I don't feel all that holy about it.  I thought I was using my brain and common sense and logical thinking skills.  
 
In terms of Bad Doms, some of them will get busted by the law, just like the ordinary johns cruising the streets looking for prostitutes do.  Not every body get's busted all the time.  However, the more you play this game, the higher the odd and the stakes are. 

I've not tried to intermix any other sub-topic into this point.  Be it moral, health or other.  I don't think I'm too far off base on the things I have just expressed.
 
Now there are places in the world such as Amsterdamn, where the laws are different.  Nevada, has some laws that allow for prositution, however there a legal guidelines that need to be still followed to my understanding.
 
Some places on this earth, it is legal, and others it is not.  Same with Gambling, you can do that in Nevada too.  It's legal there after all.  But I'm not into gambling when the odds involve being arrested having possible multple charges brought against me, and spending time behind bars.   I suppose if I had some twisted desire for spending time in a jail cell, and wanted to develop and enhance a criminal record, well I might be doing things to intentional increase my odds of that happening.
 
Perhaps, I am missing something.  Perhaps, my logic and thinking have failed me.  I don't think it is has.  

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:15:48 AM   
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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:22:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hiya Whiplash,

Your possible scenarios are plausible.  The further they go, though, the further the stretch.  A more real fear I have, would be getting involved in a new D/s relationship of any type with a girl who claims to be wildly kinky, sexy, and wants you to video tape her in the most degrading and horrifying situations.  In the afterglow of that great first date, you snuggle and sleep away peacefully next to the goddess-slave of your dreams... only to be rudely awaken at four am with a shotgun mounted flashlight and the orders "ON THE GROUND SPREAD EM!!! YOU ARE UNDER ARREST!!"

The video tape memoires of a budding, loving, consensual D/s relationship fizzle into either pleabargain hell, or worse; a public trial.  Life is ruined.

I fear that far more than some undercover cop answering a craigslist ad for "Beautiful girl seeks generous date for one evening only."

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:52:23 AM   
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Hiya Whiplash,

Your possible scenarios are plausible.  The further they go, though, the further the stretch.  A more real fear I have, would be getting involved in a new D/s relationship of any type with a girl who claims to be wildly kinky, sexy, and wants you to video tape her in the most degrading and horrifying situations.  In the afterglow of that great first date, you snuggle and sleep away peacefully next to the goddess-slave of your dreams... only to be rudely awaken at four am with a shotgun mounted flashlight and the orders "ON THE GROUND SPREAD EM!!! YOU ARE UNDER ARREST!!"

The video tape memoires of a budding, loving, consensual D/s relationship fizzle into either pleabargain hell, or worse; a public trial.  Life is ruined.

I fear that far more than some undercover cop answering a craigslist ad for "Beautiful girl seeks generous date for one evening only."

Stephan


 
I've heard of this bizarre stories happening to people, as you describe.  Have to be careful when playing with strangers. This why I take my good old sweet time getting to know somebody first.  I don't get into heavy scene play right away.  Video tapes, hahaha...  I'm not up for this right away either.  One, how the hell do I know if that tape would be somehow used for blackmail, or for display on a Pay per view website on the internet?  So many reasons why not to video tape things.
 
I've heard stories about people playing together for the first time, and the sub/slave turns around and blackmails them for money or is gonna be calling the police.  She is nice and bruised and marked up.  Ummm... something said about not playing really rough right away.
 
What is scarey, is that you could simply have Vanilla Sex with somebody, and they could pull the same stunt.  Blackmail you and threaten to call the police for kidnapping, Rape and etc...  All the evidence of having had sexual activity.  I suppose having a video tape to prove you were not raping her would work in your favor though.
 
Anyway, you slice it.  Some people are vicious con-artist, blackmailers, or people with hidden agendas or mental issues.
 
Hell, a guy picking up a married women at a bar for a night of consenting mind blowing sex, can be accused of kidnapping and rape, especially if her husband tracks her ass down the motel.  Some women resort to telling this lie inorder to avoid divorce court or it being the end of their marriage.
 
All this shit happens in the real life, and the truth is often stranger than fiction.  Basically, the more you play with strangers, your odds of this increase.   Taking time getting to know somebody, and what you are dealing with priceless.
 
 
 
 

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RE: whorefication - 8/23/2007 11:53:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		But that aint exactly 1 on 1 D/s either.

I consider a D/s relationship to be two people who know each other well, and have built up trust.   They have been together some time, and have worked up to consensual kink.

Not saying yours doesn't happen, or aint valid, or anything of the sort, but it's not what most participate in.  It is a situation with its own risks, and a set of the population that enjoys it, much like "whorification."

Not saying that there are no risks in a D/s relationship, but they are not that extreme.

To go back to the pot comparison, yours is like finding a random stranger on the street and giving them a giant bag of pot on camera.

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