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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 1:33:14 PM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		 Thanks for the heads up but,you say he is in custody.  If so do we really have to worry about him anymore?

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 1:45:15 PM   
LaTigresse


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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 2:21:45 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		The thing is I have also seen this exact kind of non supported by documentation witch hunt be turned against perfectly innocent folks. Band together is fine, making it an all out crusade to rid the lifestyle of XYZ people just ends up leading to disaster. Accusations are unsuported unless and until I see some documentation. Until then I might believe the rumor but I refuse to be party to spreading or even talking about the rumor itself. There is simply too much potential for ruining lives.

Assuming for a second that everything you say is true then the police should have easy enough access to who he has been in contact with on a regular basis. (They have or can get a warrant for his computer and the emails there in) So your search is likely redundant. If he has been as bad a boy as you contend then he is where he belongs awaiting trial before a judge and jury.




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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 2:34:44 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		I thought you thumped a cantalope.......?

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 2:36:04 PM   
atendersoul


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Status: offline 		I praise you for your effort here to start with.....
this does happen and when someone openly admits their status with the Lifestyle as being a slave, it seems an open draw to those with other agendas on their minds beyond the Lifestyle.....when truth and trust is the key elements of what we state we are. And there are some con artists that has a Master's in using people.....
Lucky that it was just money and emotional, know of two female slaves that were strangled to death.........

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 3:00:23 PM   
MistressDiane


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ORIGINAL: pearldoe

ok, i am going to consider that there are alot of idiots on the internet but still i will answer.....let me make this clear so even the most dumb can understand.....this is not a matter of he said, she said....it is a matter of a criminal spanning twenty plus years....a sociopath/psychopath....as for calling the police....it is a matter in the hands of not only local police but federal.....the man is now in custody and i am sure you will one day read about it....we are not looking for your sympathy or trying to make accusations against someone....the facts are the facts...he is in custody and will stand trial....the point of this post was to reach out to any others he may have hurt who may be afraid....some of you types are the reason people like him can continue to cause harm....as i said it is time for TRUE LIFESTYLERS to stand up and say enough.
i will speak for myself...i know my responsibility in being with him....i did not use my head nor follow any of my training....i will be looking hard at myself to figure out why i made the choice i did and why i allow myself to be used in that way....but regardless of why i made the choices i made the fact remains...he is a very bad man and a criminal who used this lifestyle to harm .....many many women.....if anyone who reads this has been in contact with him....i am here to listen and help....but i will let you others know right now...i will not back down nor stop my mission to alert others and help to educate other women so this will not happen to them.


Somebody else asked this already but I'll ask again....What did he do? It's all very vague.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 3:19:26 PM   
LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I thought you thumped a cantalope.......?

Jeff


That's a watermelon you putz!!! Sheesh, get your melons straight!


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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 3:31:02 PM   
RedheadGirlNY


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Status: offline 		As sorry as I am that people have made decisions that resulted in them being hurt emotionally and financially, I just don't see that airing laundry like this does much good.

It's embarrassing to be scammed, to have one's emotions used as weapons against oneself.  It's humiliating to be "taken" (and not in that oh-so-good "taken" way) and find oneself in the position of feeling, looking and perhaps being viewed as a fool.  It's frightening when one's instincts are less than on target.  It's devastating to have one's dreams shattered.

Been there, done that.  It took more than three years for me to rebuild the confidence in myself and my instincts.  But yanno what?  It happens to vanillas and the kinky.  It's not kink-specific.  

Having been 'round this block a few times, I'm at least mildly suspicious.  Drama sucks.  Mean people suck.  Abusers and sociopaths can be slick devils.  This I can say from personal experience.  However, I am more concerned with the old chestnut of "blacklisting."   One person's nightmare is another person's dream dominant.  Bottom line for me: verify THEN trust. 

In the distant past, I recall being sucked into an online group's horror at abuse posted by another member.  Folks nationwide rallied (as we can only do by email) in support of the poor woman.  They offered her shelter, legal services and funds to get her out of the "situation."  All that help and suddenly she "disappeared."  Turns out it was entirely fictitious.  Some people simply thrive on drama.  How do you spell hoax?  I look at it as a learning experience and toss a handful of salt into the mix.

While I'm not suggesting that this is true with the OP, a bit of salt and a few critical thinking skills seem to be necessary. 

Well, his profile is up and was accessed on 8/21/07, so if he's been detained, it's recent.  Since he's local to me (as far as the profile says, at least), if he's been arrested and charged and BDSM is involved (and it's made public) NCFS may get involved.  

Until then, I'll watch Gilmore Girls to get my drama needs met.  Oh, and the whole "skirt no panties" thing?  Sorry, silly dom tricks are for kids. 

Red (not immune to all silly dom tricks, but a gwown up, nonetheless)







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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 4:06:50 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		Why in God's name would anyone want to thump a cantaloupe?  Are you fucking mad?

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 4:14:12 PM   
BeingChewsie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: atendersoul

I praise you for your effort here to start with.....
this does happen and when someone openly admits their status with the Lifestyle as being a slave, it seems an open draw to those with other agendas on their minds beyond the Lifestyle.....when truth and trust is the key elements of what we state we are. And there are some con artists that has a Master's in using people.....
Lucky that it was just money and emotional, know of two female slaves that were strangled to death.........



Links to newpapers/court records about these strangled slaves please?  Call me a skeptic.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 4:28:24 PM   
Mercnbeth


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Why in God's name would anyone want to thump a cantaloupe?  Are you fucking mad?


Some guys are just lonely, especially up in Ontario. They make hole and just hump away.

Whoops - oh you said "thump"... Never mind.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 5:02:54 PM   
MisPandora


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Status: offline 		Oh for pete's sake....this is the internet, and we're all adults.  Kinky or not, if you don't know how to use good common sense in dating, perhaps you shouldn't wade so deeply in the pool.  My comment stands for submissives and dominants alike.  Enough already with talk of banning, outing, witch hunts, etc.  (I'd vote for a course in getting a clue for the folks who fall victim to this sort of thing over and over again.....)

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 5:12:44 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pearldoe
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consider that there are alot of idiots on the internet

it is a matter in the hands of not only local police but federal.....the man is now in custody

the point of this post was to reach out to any others he may have hurt who may be afraid

it is time for TRUE LIFESTYLERS to stand up and say enough

i know my responsibility in being with him....i did not use my head nor follow any of my training


Yep, and these guys rely on idiots on the internet to NOT use their sense and fall victim to them (yourself included.)

Having known a few guys who were accused of doing things they didn't do, there is always another side to these stories when a woman doesn't want to come clean with ALL of the facts of a case and chooses to blog her tragic tale to "protect her sisters" from a dastardly blight in "our community."

So, OP -- if this is an actual legitimate criminal case as you claim, there has been media coverage and there has been pubic record of his arrest and impending trial.  That's able to be posted in here, and people often DO that as a part of the media board.  Provide us this information in a factual presentation, not this hysterical hearsay diatribe.  Provide us facts, not feelings, about what went on.  Doing this as a community (I'm thinking back to the NY Dangerous Master case that GMSMA and a number of other orgs sent press releases out on back in the early 90s) does have an impact.  Crying wolf and stirring the pot without providing legitimate information only serves to discredit yourself and tire us "true lifestylers" of the incessant nonsense and drama that posts like these always stir up.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 5:17:00 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

Why in God's name would anyone want to thump a cantaloupe?  Are you fucking mad?

I'm told that if you cut a hole in it and microwave it, sticking your dick in feels like a BJ.  I don't have a cock to check it out.  Would you report back to us on the validity of that rumor?

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 7:44:32 PM   
steamynotraunchy


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Status: offline 		well doll, check this out and see if you don't get some consolation from it:      http://www.collarchat.com/m_1225059/tm.htm

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:36:32 PM   
Stephann


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pearldoe

ok, i am going to consider that there are alot of idiots on the internet but still i will answer.....let me make this clear so even the most dumb can understand.....this is not a matter of he said, she said....it is a matter of a criminal spanning twenty plus years....a sociopath/psychopath....as for calling the police....it is a matter in the hands of not only local police but federal.....the man is now in custody and i am sure you will one day read about it....we are not looking for your sympathy or trying to make accusations against someone....the facts are the facts...he is in custody and will stand trial....the point of this post was to reach out to any others he may have hurt who may be afraid....some of you types are the reason people like him can continue to cause harm....as i said it is time for TRUE LIFESTYLERS to stand up and say enough.
i will speak for myself...i know my responsibility in being with him....i did not use my head nor follow any of my training....i will be looking hard at myself to figure out why i made the choice i did and why i allow myself to be used in that way....but regardless of why i made the choices i made the fact remains...he is a very bad man and a criminal who used this lifestyle to harm .....many many women.....if anyone who reads this has been in contact with him....i am here to listen and help....but i will let you others know right now...i will not back down nor stop my mission to alert others and help to educate other women so this will not happen to them.


He is?  Why not post in the Alternative Lifestyle in the News the details of his arrest; his arrest warrent number is a good start.  You can find that at his local jail.  We'd looooooove to hear the facts.

Stephan


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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 11:10:01 PM   
omegasone


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Status: offline 		To most of you thank you for you kind words and thoughts NOT lol. I guess people can read but comprehension is above them. This post was intended to seek women that may have come in contact with him. I know from all the women I have talked with,s he has the same presented persona to them all. They would know when they read this if they had. It was not a warning, a witch hunt or who gives a damn if you have sympathy for me post. I could care less about all the snide stupid remarks Ive read I can only say like Ron White you cant fix stupid. This wasnt to out anyone or call attention to anything other than looking for sisters who may have been harmed by him. The case is being built against him from criminal imprisionment, abuse, kidnapping to name a few. Charges have been filed and the case continues to mount and when it is all together as Im no longer in the state nor are the other women then facts will be known. Humanity is a funny thing and for those of us that still have a piece of it then its all good. I dont call any names or anything furthur that might hinder the investigation. Those who throw stones shouldnt live in glass houses. We all say at one time another in our life oh I wouldnt do that or that wouldnt couldnt shouldnt happen to me but a road less traveled is one we dont know until we find ourselves there. All I can say is play nice because you never know what may happen around the corner for you. I came in here with good intentions as I know the harm and profile he has used is so smooth the detective told me he should been a physciatrist as he can get into womens heads and manipulate them but he has chosen to do evil with it. Thanks for all the LOVE shown as we already know life is hard enough in this lifestyle we live without being condemned from within it.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 11:17:25 PM   
steamynotraunchy


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Status: offline 		here here, i'm with you. they can't get it when you spell it out for them. it's hilarious though. I had one dope actually cut and paste dictionary terms that PROVED MY POINT. LOL and then thought he was smart and was throwing something in my face. Oh well, I guess that's the state of our educational system screaming at us. Play with them. It's fun. Just don't take it on.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 11:29:04 PM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: omegasone

This post was intended to seek women that may have come in contact with him.

Again -- validate the HIM and make a valid statement as to the accusations you're flinging around.  You're claiming someone was arrested and is up on charges -- it's a matter of public record.  Do share your source information. We're all ears (ok, eyes) waiting.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/24/2007 12:22:08 AM   
came4U


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quote:

I would like to add that I lived this life for 7 months, its not joke about how intelligent this mans lifestyle con is to women. He has been doing it going on 30 yrs. He is now in jail for alot of his crimes. My message was to seek others he may have been involved with. Im suprised at the number of negativity out there when we all enjoy WIIWD. Open minded or closed it don't matter to me. Im looking for those that might have been affected by this man If you have ever lived it or been there you would know the damage he can cause. Thanks for being such an accepting group of people.


ook 7 months wooohoo. Lived 7 months as a sub to a con artist? or 7 months in general???

according to the guy's profile named on the OP's profile journal he is 53ish???

ooooook ya know what? Thus he has been a con artist for what? 23 yrs? wow...haven't most divorced people.

If you feel he is a con artist or abuser, go to his local law/county/district court and petition to have him kept in jail.

Honestly, strangers mean nothing to the court system. Take your sisters with you and have his pardon or parole revoved.

Next time, don't be a dip-shit. 

someone else said:

quote:

Well, his profile is up and was accessed on 8/21/07, so if he's been detained, it's recent.  Since he's local to me (as far as the profile says, at least), if he's been arrested and charged and BDSM is involved (and it's made public) NCFS may get involved.  
 

He just logged in...so wow, he is quite productive for being arrested. 

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