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koroshinobi -> What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 7:19:09 PM)

I am new to the BDSM community, and I am still finding my place. However I find my self attracted to the role of the sub. I have always been enamored with the Ninja and the Samurai, and central to the role and nature of these warriors was complete loyalty, and service to their master. In my past relationships, I found roles of service like cooking, and providing non sexual massages very enjoyable. In a sexual context I find service extremely arousing. I love being commanded and being told what to do, I love the feeling of being used to provide pleasure.
Mistresses, do have have the proper mind set for a male sub?
What are the qualities that make a good male sub?

Thank you in advance
Koroshinobi




MstrssPassion -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 8:15:48 PM)

I will tell you some good news...

At least you have identified some of the things you believe you would enjoy & that you believe a potential Mistress would enjoy. Continue to identify these things about yourself, it will help you in the long run. Many people new to exploring this do not even have this going for them.

More good news, many of the things you just mentioned may be ideally what a Mistress seeks in a male sub.

Now for some not so good news... Some Mistresses may want a total pain-slut as opposed to a service oriented sub. She may want to use you for everything except sex or her own sexual gratification. She may want someone with no sense of self worth & confidence. (just examples)

There is no ONE proper mind set except for the proper mindset of self & of course the complimentary mindset within a partner. The more you are able to identify with what really makes you respond in a positive manner & what make you respond in an absolute 'not happening' negative manner, the better chance you will have at finding a partner that matches your wants/needs/goals. Keep in mind, compromise is good, conformity will almost always result in a miserable ending for both individuals.

Best of luck in your search,
MstrssPassion







Euryanx -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 8:35:18 PM)

I would think if you put the needs of your Mistress ahead of your own needs, you can't go too far wrong.




NightRoseBud -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 8:36:07 PM)

I agree with Passion, finding your needs and wants, and making sure they work with someone is best. To that list, I will add communication. Make sure to always talk with your Dominant about your feelings and hers. Never assume, it's always better to ask than assume.




MaitresseEden -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 8:52:07 PM)

works for me!!!.. I would say you are on the right track!

Ms. Eden




SweetDommes -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 9:11:22 PM)

If we hadn't taken a break from looking, I'd be messaging you [;)] Well, except for that whole, you're in the wrong country thing ... lol




koroshinobi -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/7/2005 9:21:16 PM)

Thank you very much Mistresses
I am very glad to find out that I may have a place in this world




Oumae -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/8/2005 6:36:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: koroshinobi

I am very glad to find out that I may have a place in this world



Of course you do .... Dommes are individuals with varying desires and needs from their subs. Be honest, be yourself and good luck finding what it is you seek.

Oumae




MstrssPassion -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/8/2005 7:43:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Euryanx

I would think if you put the needs of your Mistress ahead of your own needs, you can't go too far wrong.


I agree with this to a point, but there is a flaw with this concept if one seeks to be involved in a long-term relationship. Our mindsets, kinks, interests... our triggers are very real. Anyone that ignores their own sense of fulfillment will eventually feel all used up/burned out & be looking for the nearest exit door away from the person that they placed the needs of as a higher priority.

I am not submissive, so I can't tell you this from personal experience, but I can tell you from the perspective of a dominant.

I had such an experience where a submissive made every attempt to conform their entire being & desire to please to mirror what I wanted. I was easy at first for him, but as time went on I could see the spark fade. As for myself, I truly read my submissive. I have what could be considered a very empathetic connection. As his desire became more along the lines of merely enduring, the spark faded within me as well.

So yes, place the needs of your Mistress as a high priority, but never attempt to ignore your own for the sake of hers. (and this goes for male-dom/fem-sub or even same gender couples as well)

Yes!!!
NightRoseBud added communication as being very important. I couldn't agree more. Know thyself first, because if you go running around clueless how will you be able to communicate with anyone once you find a potential partner. Not only know thyself, but also find an understanding about terms & definitions of such. I am not saying fall in line like a duck in a row or pick a side of a fence to stand on, because you will never find one universally accepted theory or practice of anything within this way of life anywhere, including here. Even though this is true, still find your own concept & meanings so that you can communicate your understanding & perception of what this way of life means to you to others.


MstrssPassion




lonewolf05 -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/8/2005 3:26:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion


quote:

ORIGINAL: Euryanx

I would think if you put the needs of your Mistress ahead of your own needs, you can't go too far wrong.


I agree with this to a point, but there is a flaw with this concept if one seeks to be involved in a long-term relationship. Our mindsets, kinks, interests... our triggers are very real. Anyone that ignores their own sense of fulfillment will eventually feel all used up/burned out & be looking for the nearest exit door away from the person that they placed the needs of as a higher priority.

I am not submissive, so I can't tell you this from personal experience, but I can tell you from the perspective of a dominant.

I had such an experience where a submissive made every attempt to conform their entire being & desire to please to mirror what I wanted. I was easy at first for him, but as time went on I could see the spark fade. As for myself, I truly read my submissive. I have what could be considered a very empathetic connection. As his desire became more along the lines of merely enduring, the spark faded within me as well.

So yes, place the needs of your Mistress as a high priority, but never attempt to ignore your own for the sake of hers. (and this goes for male-dom/fem-sub or even same gender couples as well)

Yes!!!
NightRoseBud added communication as being very important. I couldn't agree more. Know thyself first, because if you go running around clueless how will you be able to communicate with anyone once you find a potential partner. Not only know thyself, but also find an understanding about terms & definitions of such. I am not saying fall in line like a duck in a row or pick a side of a fence to stand on, because you will never find one universally accepted theory or practice of anything within this way of life anywhere, including here. Even though this is true, still find your own concept & meanings so that you can communicate your understanding & perception of what this way of life means to you to others.


MstrssPassion

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So yes, place the needs of your Mistress as a high priority, but never attempt to ignore your own for the sake of hers.

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yep yep. and i DO understand, THIS is so different from each person.
as i understand it to be, the majority of those in this lifestyle are after something, the sex, the play, the human love connection,....something.
and i only but take a guess that by itself can be a drama.
and i am guessing only because i am not part of all that.
ignore your own? MINE is as i always state, everywhere, is mere service. whatever dirty little job that has to be done, is my-thing.
but ya know? even at THAT....do not think even THIS is easy. i was NOT in the mood to dig for 3 days digging up a septic tank when i was in calif. no way folks. so even service has bad days.
but hey, as an adult, i knew it HAD to be done, and it WAS MY job.
wasn't in the mood, but i did it.

have a good day folks.
the wolf




NightRoseBud -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/11/2005 7:55:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

Yes!!!
NightRoseBud added communication as being very important. I couldn't agree more.

MstrssPassion


Someone agrees with me? I'm shocked... [:D]




lonewolf05 -> RE: What are the Most important Qualities for a Male Sub? (7/13/2005 2:13:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NightRoseBud


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

Yes!!!
NightRoseBud added communication as being very important. I couldn't agree more.

MstrssPassion


Someone agrees with me? I'm shocked... [:D]




uh yup. even "i" agree. whoa.. shock shock.

the wolf




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