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Inundated PC Updates?

Click the button like a sheep

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Nooo they want to plant spyware on your PC

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What is an update I'm using a 386

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I protest being called a sheep in option 1

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Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 10:30:25 AM

FullCircle

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People I need your help

That little yellow shield thingy has appeared in my PC in tray again and I’m starting to become of the opinion that updates do more harm than good. Every time I install ‘critical’ updates my PC slows down until new updates are available to fix the updates. A part of me also thinks that with DRM etc. updates are rarely for your benefit anyway. Soooo do you update your PC when asked?

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 12:14:43 PM

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Well, let me put it this way...
i'm on dial-up, so staying current with updates would more or less be a full-time job under Windows XP. The last one i tried to download got corrupted by my shitty connection and ended up requiring a system restore to regain stability. Since then, i haven't updated in more than a year. Computer still works fine.

Your mileage may vary.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:06:59 PM

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I was going to respond to your post with a somewhat snarky "Get a Mac" response, but after trying to load up a virtual Windows XP machine through emulation, I feel your pain. I've been inundated with all of these "critical" updates that it's taken a couple of days to get them loaded and installed! Granted, this work is being done on a virtual PC under emulation, but still...

I'll just end my post with, I'm glad I have use a Mac. At least I can get some work done while the PCs are busy updating their updates.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:10:46 PM

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I was told years ago by a friend of mine who works for Microsoft in Seattle to never update.

Reason being. Updates are supposed to fix something wrong. Problem is the updates are never
tested enough. So in the end you need an update to fix and update just as you have noticed.

So, I run windows XP pro on my machine and the only update I have ever ran was the one when I added
it to my pc.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:15:11 PM

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The main problem with a Mac has always been affordability. Maybe it’s a false economy to own a PC but unless you show me an equivalent mid range Mac for the same price as a PC I wouldn’t even consider it. Most people with Macs are those that have specific reasons for using them such as graphic artists, musicians. I’m just someone who needs a place to store the porn errm I mean accounts.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:23:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FullCircle

The main problem with a Mac has always been affordability. Maybe it’s a false economy to own a PC but unless you show me an equivalent mid range Mac for the same price as a PC I wouldn’t even consider it. Most people with Macs are those that have specific reasons for using them such as graphic artists, musicians. I’m just someone who needs a place to store the porn errm I mean accounts.

If you already have a monitor and keyboard, this might be the Mac for your por... I mean accounts:

Mac Mini

On some of them, you can also load up Windows (for those times you absolutely have to have it) either through emulation (which works much faster than on my current Mac) or as a dual-boot option.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:26:41 PM

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Microsoft's Developer Contract is the reason why I switched to Linux. That was back in 1995...

From what I can tell, it's only gotten worse. If you'd like a good WinXP looking/feeling Linux machine, may I recommend PCLinuxOS? Very familiar look&feel, but without the MS BS in the guts.

Besides, do you really own a Microsoft product after you read between the lines of the EULA?

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:30:34 PM

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I’ll look into it thanks. I was thinking of getting a laptop for my next PC and plugging my existing keyboard and monitor into that. Which sounds a bit odd because you either move about or you are fixed in one place. I need a big screen for my work but I also envy people that get to write on their laptops out and about whilst I’m stuck in one place. So I thought why not get a laptop and plug all the things I have into that then when I want to be out and about I can be. The trouble is I’ll probably buy the laptop and it stays on my desk the whole time. Oh well.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:33:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: e01n

Microsoft's Developer Contract is the reason why I switched to Linux. That was back in 1995...

From what I can tell, it's only gotten worse. If you'd like a good WinXP looking/feeling Linux machine, may I recommend PCLinuxOS? Very familiar look&feel, but without the MS BS in the guts.

Besides, do you really own a Microsoft product after you read between the lines of the EULA?

Full Disclosure: I was at Purdue at roughly the same time as Ian Murdock. And I like cooking for a living much better, thankyouverymuch.

I did look at various Linux distributions recently but the idea of mounting my drives didn't put the right picture in my head.

It seemed even wanting my wireless adapter to work with it involved compiling things and I’m not a computer expert so failed big time. Maybe it’s because I was using one straight off of a CD to get a feel for it that it didn’t find all my devices. I was probably expecting more than was reasonable.

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 1:37:16 PM

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Well, if you can't mount your drives, what can you mount, eh?

Actually, the wireless issue is valid - but not as bad as it sounds. Most of the time, someone's done the heavy lifting of coming up with a driver for you, so it's simply a matter of having it install as recommended by the installer program. 90% of the time, not an issue.

But that 10% - normally if you've bought really crazy knockoff hardware - then it gets iffy. And even then, I've not had much problem with the hardware discovery tools in most major Linux distros.

What *is* nice is that a) most Linux builds are free (as in beer) and b) they often have "liveCDs" - the full OS running from a CD or DVD. Which is nice to see whether the missing wireless driver is something in your hardware, or something that's just configuration. If it doesn't work, you're out maybe a bit of time, effort and a piece of burnable media... no big whoop

Me, I use Debian (well, obvious from the disclosure statement if'n you know your history) and have yet to have a problem with my wireless card or video that was caused by the software not working. And in some ways, PCLOS is a bit more windows-hardware friendly than my laptop's system... YMMV.

I need to stop. Starting to get all evangelical on y'all... Suffice to say, even running a 386, you have choices other than M$

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RE: Inundated PC Updates? - 8/24/2007 9:48:36 PM

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quote:

I was told years ago by a friend of mine who works for Microsoft in Seattle to never update.

Hubby has told me never to update XP, so i haven't.

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