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liljoy -> warm ups (8/27/2007 10:02:23 AM)

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?
If it does what does it involve and what is the benifit for you?




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:04:36 AM)

I never got warm ups with my ex's.  They were all sadists and held fast to the idea that "warm ups are for masochists." 

So, as always, it depends on the people involved and the scene they want to have together. 

Warm up is generally self explanatory- starting out slow and easy to break in the muscles and get prepared for more stress down the line.  The benefit tends to be less shock to the body, greater ability to take stress and more time to communicate before getting in hard and heavy.




AquaticSub -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:08:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: liljoy

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?

Except for when it's just for his pleasure or when it's punishment.
quote:



If it does what does it involve and what is the benifit for you?


Soft hits, soft spanks - basically starting the impact and flogging at a low level and gradually working up to hard. The benfit for me is that I enjoy it as opposed to just sitting/standing there and enduring it for him. The benfit for Valyraen? That I enjoy it. He enjoys seeing me writhe in pleasure/pain.

The warm-ups let me get into my headspace. Another thing that he can do is to talk me into my headspace so that I'm ready for the hard blows from the start, but that's for intense scenes.




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:22:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?
If it does what does it involve and what is the benifit for you?


No. At least not physically.

When I do "physical play" it's so much more than just picking up my floggers and other toys it can be the climax to a long dance.

The beginning of that dance is the warm up.

Z-




liljoy -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:39:09 AM)

LA,
thank you for your answer. how did you handle not being warmed up?

the benifits you listed are those from your Top part? They seem more benifits from the bottom side. i was wanting to know what the benifit from the top side is




liljoy -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:42:01 AM)

AquaticSub,
thank you this is what i was looking for. Can you give me an idea how he talks you into headspace?




liljoy -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 10:44:11 AM)

i don't understand this at all can you clairify for me?

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

No. At least not physically.

When I do "physical play" it's so much more than just picking up my floggers and other toys it can be the climax to a long dance.

The beginning of that dance is the warm up.

Z-




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 11:00:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy
LA,
thank you for your answer. how did you handle not being warmed up?

Eh, I cried and shriekd and didn't like it.  But I wouldn't have liked it with a warm up anyway since I'm not a masochist.
quote:


the benifits you listed are those from your Top part? They seem more benifits from the bottom side. i was wanting to know what the benifit from the top side is

Oh, well same in that I get my bottom where I want them and build more connection together before I get into the hard and heavy stuff.




AquaticSub -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 1:18:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

AquaticSub,
thank you this is what i was looking for. Can you give me an idea how he talks you into headspace?



It happens, mainly, during a scene that will be very intense. When he, for all intents and purposes, becomes someone else. Like during force play, abductions, slave auctions, slave breaking... that sort of thing. He talks to me, setting the stage so to speak. He taunts me, insults me, teases me, anything that fits the role or side of him that he is displaying at the moment. It puts me into a particular headspace so that I can take harder blows to start with.

On the other hand, he can also talk me through me pain that he doesn't want me to have but simply has to happen. For example: The first pentration of anal sex is is still very painful for me, but when he strokes my hair, coos "Good girl, such a good Kitten I have" in my ear I feel like I can endure anything to please him.




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 2:15:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

i don't understand this at all can you clairify for me?


To me as I get to know a partner (and they get to know me), we learn about likes and dislikes and places we may want to go ala Dr Seuss. When I think the energy is right the physical play happens.  I don't start by doing things soft and slow just for warming one up, I expect our dynamic that we have to already be the warm up.




Aileen68 -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 2:30:57 PM)

Nope.  0-60 as fast as possible.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 2:35:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ
To me as I get to know a partner (and they get to know me), we learn about likes and dislikes and places we may want to go ala Dr Seuss. When I think the energy is right the physical play happens.  I don't start by doing things soft and slow just for warming one up, I expect our dynamic that we have to already be the warm up.


HA i'm so going to use that on my partner the next time we play "Your submission to me is all the warm up you should need.  Now take this spanking and like it!"




AquaticSub -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 2:44:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ
To me as I get to know a partner (and they get to know me), we learn about likes and dislikes and places we may want to go ala Dr Seuss. When I think the energy is right the physical play happens.  I don't start by doing things soft and slow just for warming one up, I expect our dynamic that we have to already be the warm up.


HA i'm so going to use that on my partner the next time we play "Your submission to me is all the warm up you should need.  Now take this spanking and like it!"


....

That makes my bottom hurt to think about.




Viridana -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 3:05:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?
If it does what does it involve and what is the benifit for you?



Yes we always do a good warm up. The length of the warmup depends mostly on the planned length and intensity of the scene. For a good 1 1/2 to 2 hour scene (our usual length) warm up can take up to an half an hour.

For me, when the flow and intensity of the stimuli is given in an ascending manner it results in that I can take more beating, harder beatings and for more extensive time. It also eases the transition to supspace.

The warm up for us involves soft spanking first with a soft impliment or a hand. Then the strokes slowly  get harder and mixed with harder impliments until the area is warm enough to start doing some serious work on it.




Padriag -> RE: warm ups (8/27/2007 3:55:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?

No, I usually just grab a random body part and twist, pinch, or pull... then go from there.  I generally don't do planned or elaborate scenes, instead going with whatever comes to mind spontaneously.  The closest I come to a "warm up" is that I might start off more slowly and build the intensity, but that is more just a "natural" (if anything about the shit I do can be called natural [;)]) progression than any intentional build up.




EclipseAbove -> RE: warm ups (8/28/2007 8:28:50 AM)

It depends on what I have in mind and how my slave and I are feeling.  If I want the scene to last for a while and get to use more than one or two toys, I've got to start out slow (aka warm up).  However, there are plenty of times where I just jump right into the heavy stuff without a warm up. 




LadyHugs -> RE: warm ups (8/28/2007 10:12:36 PM)

Dear liljoy, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Warm up means different things to different individuals on both sides of the whip.
 
That said, I tailor myself to the person I am working with.  Some individuals want warm ups and some do not; and everything in between.
 
For me, my warm up is really an opportunity to focus the person.  In a noisy public dungeon or party where people are rude and talking, to draw the focus and let them settle down and just tune in to me is a style of warm up.  In addition, some may benefit from an emotional warm up where the use of protocol, such as kneeling and presenting themselves; puts into motion in their mind the anticipation, expectations and the knowing that they will soon be physically engaged in some sort of scene and help them detatch from the real world for a little while.  The physical warm up really depends on the person involved.  Intermitten slave/submissive/bottoms are not built up to a point of stamina that would be for someone who has scenes twice or more daily.  For me, physical warm up is when the skin of the slave has been awaken enough as to 'tell' or have sensitivities as to what leather texture, rabbit fur and or other tools I have applied to them.  It is interesting how color rabbit fur affects the texture of their fur pelt and a slave that is tuned can distinguish the differences between white, brown, grey, black and multi-color pelts.
 
Yet, for a servant slave who is not going to have 'impact' or 'physical' scenes with whips, bondage and such on a focused and or prolonged scene -- the mental and emotional warm up is just as important to me.  Being 'in tune' with their type of scene, which is serving; can be considered 'warm up.'
 
What do warm-ups do for me?  For me, it means that I have the slave's focus on where I wish to have their mind, emotions and physical state where I need them to be.  I want to use every tool at my command per se.  In a transfer of energy, like a dance--both parties have to be 'there' in so many levels to give a connection for that energy flow.  When slave or servant are relaxed, focused and listening to me--instead of work, family, problems and such -- the ability to shelf every day things and give a chance for sub-space or flying to take place, is important to me.  It is a shared moment.

 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




BoiJen -> RE: warm ups (8/28/2007 10:58:58 PM)

I was standing in front of the Lady in charge one day and She smacked the hell out of me witha singletail. One of my own whips...I said what about a warm up?...She said shut the fuck up this is your warm up....warm up with a singletail




DiurnalVampire -> RE: warm ups (8/28/2007 11:01:18 PM)

Since Angel is not involved with anything specificaly physically dmanding, he doesnt get any sort of warm up for our play. Kitten on the other hand, needed to be eased into things gradually most of the time since he was a novice. Almost all the boys I play wth are novices, so for them warmups are necessary as to not to overdo the sensations and kill the session.

DV




ownedgirlie -> RE: warm ups (8/29/2007 12:40:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Padriag

quote:

ORIGINAL: liljoy

Do your sessions include warm ups for the bottom?

No, I usually just grab a random body part and twist, pinch, or pull... then go from there.  I generally don't do planned or elaborate scenes, instead going with whatever comes to mind spontaneously.  The closest I come to a "warm up" is that I might start off more slowly and build the intensity, but that is more just a "natural" (if anything about the shit I do can be called natural [;)]) progression than any intentional build up.


This is generally my experience as well.  A slap of the face, a yank of the hair, a pinch and twist of a protruding body part....and away we go.  I generally don't know what will be in store.

If he's going to do something new and extreme to/with me, he'll have me explore my feelings about it in depth before ever doing it.  But I won't know if or when it will actually occur.




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