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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/2/2007 9:05:07 AM   
Politesub53


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Pixel, thanks for the help but i already understood what you are getting at. Everything you say is correct but thats still not what i am asking. The OP was based on humiliation in the proper sense of the word.

i am wondering if subjects that produce feelings of humiliation, fail to do so as you become more exposed to that type of play. There must become a point when something that humiliates you becomes something you enjoy, due to the very dynamics you describe in your post. At what point do you start enjoying such acts because either you have started to find them erotic, or the pleasure you know it gives your Mistress for you to undertake such tasks ?

Full public play isnt the same as public play in a club full of lifestylers, assuming most people at such events are at least curious. i would think being humiliated there is easier to adjust to, than at the mall for instance. This is just my opinion of things



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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/2/2007 10:16:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Pixel, thanks for the help but i already understood what you are getting at. Everything you say is correct but thats still not what i am asking. The OP was based on humiliation in the proper sense of the word.

i am wondering if subjects that produce feelings of humiliation, fail to do so as you become more exposed to that type of play.


Politesub, I think what you desscribe does occur.

I recall one of my first trips to a fetish night. At one point a domme asked me to bow before her at the club. I was hesitant because of everyone else around. I first just kneeled. She extended her foot and asked me to touch my forehead to her shoe. I complied. At the time I felt what one might call emotional discomfort due to the presence of others. However, I have now become comfortable in fetish clubs and would feel the act to be humiliating more in the D/s sense (an act done as a gesture of roles without feeling any emotional discomfort) versus an act in the SM sense (an act that does create emotional discomfort). Exposure has lessened the discomfort in this example.

I think true feelings of humiliation occur when one sees their ego to be lessened in one's eyes, or in the eyes of others (the dominant or other spectators). It is entirely possible to feel that an activity will result in a loss of ego in the eyes of others and then, after going through the activity without this loss of ego, no longer feel this concern.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/2/2007 10:49:15 AM   
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Thanks Sea, Thats the sort of thing i was thinking of. i would imagine getting used to something quicker done in private than in a club. Some things one could get used to given time, and others never get used to doing, especially with an audience of any kind.

Thinking on this a bit more, being told to do something that you find humiliating in a mirrorred room, could be both effective as punishment, and hot at the same time.


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/6/2007 8:59:31 AM   
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Thanks for this wonderful article!-- really summarizes erotic humiliation in such an insightful way!  i agree that for this slave it turbo-charges and  reinforces the ownership relationship and feelings it seems.  

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/6/2007 10:17:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlaveSubtoserve

Thanks for this wonderful article!-- really summarizes erotic humiliation in such an insightful way!  i agree that for this slave it turbo-charges and  reinforces the ownership relationship and feelings it seems.  


You're welcome.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/6/2007 10:28:48 AM   
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Great article Dianna -- it's good that some of these fellows will see that humiliation isn't a dirty word and in the context of a trusting, erotic power exchange relationship, it can definitely be an enhancement to one's submission.


MisPandora,
True it iis an enhancement to the sub submission. Always humiliation for me is a way to so me devotion for my domme.

thanks
footsub

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/6/2007 10:31:03 AM   
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Mistress DiannaVesta,
Thank you for a very well thought and well written artcile. What about own cum eating is that an act of humilaition or devotion for the domme?

thanks,
footsubdenver

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/6/2007 11:33:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Pixel, thanks for the help but i already understood what you are getting at. Everything you say is correct but thats still not what i am asking. The OP was based on humiliation in the proper sense of the word.


Politesub,
I see that Sea has answered some of your question to your satisfaction.  I'm not certain that the OP used the word humilation in the proper sense of the word.  In fact, in a follow-up post, she described it in another way or context while stating that she didn't have a better term to use for it.

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i am wondering if subjects that produce feelings of humiliation, fail to do so as you become more exposed to that type of play. There must become a point when something that humiliates you becomes something you enjoy, due to the very dynamics you describe in your post. At what point do you start enjoying such acts because either you have started to find them erotic, or the pleasure you know it gives your Mistress for you to undertake such tasks ?


For starters, one can find something humilating in the traditional sense and erotic at the same time!  I have found certain acts to be somewhat embarrassing, yet equally arousing.  There's a rush that goes along with the embarassment or humilation factor that is very akin to the rush of arousal.  There are acts that Mistress and I engage in which some would consider humilating, but I am proud of.  I find them very arousing.  There are some things we  do that have an element of humilation to them which are primarily done because they are arousing for both of us.  I hope this doesn't confuse.  The bottom line is that there are many reasons to engage in these acts and you can bet that arousal is part of it for at least one of the parties, if not both!

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Full public play isnt the same as public play in a club full of lifestylers, assuming most people at such events are at least curious. i would think being humiliated there is easier to adjust to, than at the mall for instance. This is just my opinion of things




I won't agree or disagree here.  I think they're just "different".  There are things I do with Mistress in public that some men would find absolutely humiliating, which I enjoy and find arousing as does she.  Everyone has their own buttons and conditioning.  It doesn't bother or embarrass me to carry her purse or bags while shopping.  Some men would be horrified by the prospect of that.  I just see it as being of service to her.
 
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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 9/7/2007 12:55:52 AM   
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Humiliation is the way i have to prove Her i'm Hers. I wouldn't accept to be humiliated by someone else. And when done in public is a mind orgasm for me. I need to feel people around is considering me nothing in front of Her. I loke to feel people around is considering me lost. Because it's just true. I'm lost into Her eyes.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 10/5/2010 2:10:18 AM   
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Dear DiannaVesta Maam,

i have rarely come across such a succinct and informative analysis. As i read Your post, i felt You really hit the nail on the head.

i could really relate to the distinction between positive and negative humiliation. In my case, i am a sissy who initially found the sissy role initially very satisfying and empowering - and it came as a surprise for me in fact- as i poreviously had no conscious inclinations that i was aware of. As a result, i found i wanted to go further into it - and quickly found myself encountering difficulties.

The satisfaction and fun now started to acquire an obsessive quality (which is another way of saying it started to become a way lot more fun and satisfying) - but in turn it began to spread over into other aspects of my life - affecting ability to concentrate and even work. As a consequence - i felt the need to stop or abandon the behavior as it started to prove really very stressful.

Maybe part of that was due to the lakc of an entirely trustful situation - or i was moving too fast ?

But i have found that - in spite of feeling the need to slow down and even backtrack - the pull of the thing ( the humiiation - as i regard the whole appeal of being a sissy to be essentially about being humiliated )- does not go away and the urges and desires persist.

Would You have any suggestions about negotiating a way towards some kind of balance - as i know it is unrealistic to simply "quit" my sissy ways cold turkey.

Thank You for sharing such wonderful and meaningful insights DiannaVesta Maam

Sincerely,
darkpassage


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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 10/5/2010 4:56:02 AM   
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Hi there, darkpassage, and congratulations on your first post!

Forget about DiannaVesta responding.  The post she made was three years old.  I have been online for several years and have never seen her post in that time - I suspect she may have moved on from the site.  If you really want to contact her, I suggest you Google her and see if any contact info pops up.




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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 10/5/2010 10:14:09 AM   
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thanks Darksteven !!

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 10/5/2010 5:40:25 PM   
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MsDianna, I loved the article. Thank you so much.

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RE: Humiliation: Fucking Your Mind & Spirit - 10/5/2010 6:15:31 PM   
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