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Joseff -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/1/2007 8:42:09 PM)

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everybody works for bill gates lol everytime there is problem it is part of the microsoft empire.. um did someone say math i know there are suduko people on here i can sense them math will never be the same
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Suduko has nothing to do with math, its just patterns.
Joseff

P.S. Ooops, my secret is out!




feastie -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/1/2007 8:56:29 PM)

So, apparently, Suzie and Master didn't evolve as a D/s couple after the crumbsnatcher came along.  They each played their own part in the demise of that part of their relationship.  But their relationship cannot be counted as years of experience from the get go.  Why is that?  Because it takes more than a scene every week to add up to experience.  If they'd had their ducks in a row from the start, the relationship would have evolved and grown as it should, crumbsnatcher or no.  There are ways to hold on to the dynamic, even in the presence of UMs, that don't include a paddle, flogger or a naked, collared Mommy kneeling at Daddy's feet.





Damocles809 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/1/2007 11:28:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82
Between the licks post and this one there seems to be a rash of math going on.


I'll say.  Sounds like this relationship is going to hell in a handbasket traveling south at 45mph with a 12 mph SSW wind. 

I can't give Suzie full credit, since she didn't show her work. 




ddthrill -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 2:46:27 AM)

children are a hazard. they should be eliminated in order for sweetsuzie to indulge herselfishslutself. She should have given herself her own abortion while still in her mamas womb. The babies Fadda is stoopid tooo.

I am kidding.
ARE YOU?




mons -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 3:06:49 AM)

greeting Suzie voice

OK first thing he i am sorry to say is like must poor men but yet he was not poor he just had that mind set. he thought she should had the strength to take care of him ( oh selfish) and she thought he was going to be there ( silly woman men do not love the baby as fast as they want silly ) now they only had bdsm that kept them together and that was all she need a real man and he need one who did not have a child all say and done this time i hope each find what they need not every one is meant to be a father or mother it takes time a damn long time and she did need help

Mons( not a man hate just know how some man are )




ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 5:51:57 AM)

Which matters...quantity or quality??? neither...my experience with each individual I get involved with is all that matters--I won't get in 'pissin' contests with 'lifestyle nazis'




Squeakers -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 5:59:38 AM)

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There are ways to hold on to the dynamic, even in the presence of UMs, that don't include a paddle, flogger or a naked, collared Mommy kneeling at Daddy's feet
  feastie that was the point, they did lose the dynamic, because they allowed life to overwhelm them.  




callistaIn -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 6:01:46 AM)

Interesting question; but not one that really would bother me when talking with someone else. I COULD state that I have over 10 years experience within the context of BDSM and Gorean slavery; and technically it would be correct. I started learning at the age of 16. However, this statement would not be correct in terms of ‘physical’ relationships with others.
 
In terms of actual relationships, my experience level would drop to around 5 years or so. ( this is not online or long distance, actual physical contact within relationships ) Yet, I still ‘feel’ that I have more years experience than just what was spent in relationships.
 
It’s a tricky situation for anyone who spends time in between relationships just learning, watching, and evaluating. I guess you would have to ask yourself what you actually consider experience to be. Is it physical hands on only; or can ‘learning’ be incorporated?
 
As an aside, I have enjoyed reading the thoughts that others have on this J
 
callie




Perplex -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 10:36:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

Which matters...quantity or quality??? neither...my experience with each individual I get involved with is all that matters--I won't get in 'pissin' contests with 'lifestyle nazis'



I really like that.

I had intended to be a smartass in reply to the OP with "I have 1250 years of the lifestyle in, starting with being an assitant to inquistinor Qui training jews to be good little spaniards"....but then I read elusive's post adn it made my smartass dry up....

all of it's nonesense.  I've been with subs who are fresh from the gate and knocked me on my ass and I've known subs who'se ass is so numb from the repeated abuse that I'd have more fun riding a dead burro. but the one I've learned is everybody is full of shit (this not intended to reflect the orginal poster) but in general everybody is full of shit, doms, subs, switches, they will say what is germaine to the situation and further thier hoped for agenda...and yeah the guy in the mirror is just as full of shit as anybody.

the only truely healhty relationships are between a dog and its bone....the bone is happy to get chewed (or at least they dont' object loudly ..very often) and the dog is happy to chew.  As you move up the social food chain, ego, desire, unfufillable fantasies get us all in the end.

which sounds like a really pessimistic thing to say, but it's not, because we are all full of shit, it means whatever you're doing if you're happy, YOU WIN!!! *insert rah rah noises here* quit worrying about comparing peepee sizes or who has the better dungeon and just enjoy the ride.  if somebody doesn't like how you do things, fuck em, they don't pay your bills or fetch your dinner.  there is a certain amount of freedom that goes along with that way of thinking.  ....it also can permit you to run around in a moldy robe that hasn't seen a washing machine in 3 years, so do use some discretion with the "I'm happy so fuck em" premise there is something to be said for basic style in how we all do things. 




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 10:48:05 AM)

it is all about meaning. you can read every book every article every concept ..
but if you do not get the meaning.. it will  be worthless knowledge
thats where life experince rules life experince teaches you the meaning
like putting puzzle parts together they only fit one way




umisprite -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 10:57:29 AM)

X number of years in the lifestyle means nothing to me and it's the quality of the person that matters, not the quality of their BDSM experience. I have said this many times to the chest thumpers: You may have 20 years experience in the lifestyle but you have only about 2 minutes experience with me so don't embarrass yourself.




GhitaAmati -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 11:06:37 AM)

Im only 27, but ive got 32 years of experiance because I got double points for a long time for sceneing more than once a day




chellekitty -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 11:31:52 AM)

ooo really? i am gonna have to recalculate my points....




Driver1961 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 12:04:32 PM)

He dips His lid;

Now I smiling cos this is really enjoyable and a great comedic rant, not proselytizing at all (a new word from tonight that I should write down for my ol' fart braincells)

QUESTION
Why aren't we including Suzi's four years experience of 'online subbing' as substantive lifestyle, there were no rug rats confusing those velcro collarings?




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 12:06:48 PM)

there is a thing called right of passage i like that term it means you have earn the right to be where you are in life  paid your dues so to speak those that skip over those things are doomed to pay for it later yep yep one way or another




feastie -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 12:36:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

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There are ways to hold on to the dynamic, even in the presence of UMs, that don't include a paddle, flogger or a naked, collared Mommy kneeling at Daddy's feet
  feastie that was the point, they did lose the dynamic, because they allowed life to overwhelm them.  


No, they lost the dynamic because they weren't smart enough or creative enough to know how to keep it.  It really had nothing to do with life.  It's something that you have to continually work at and think about.  It takes effort and imagination.  They obviously just didn't care enough to work at it.




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 1:03:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: umisprite

X number of years in the lifestyle means nothing to me and it's the quality of the person that matters, not the quality of their BDSM experience. I have said this many times to the chest thumpers: You may have 20 years experience in the lifestyle but you have only about 2 minutes experience with me so don't embarrass yourself.
Umi, I could not agree with you more upon this!..took my thoughts and stated it better than I could...Tempting




arayofsunshine55 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 2:11:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Squeakers
I am not judging anyone Suzie is a made up person and I purposely added humor to my little fictious senerio to make the point that it was fictional.   The point that you obviously missed was, what works the quanity of experience or the quaility?   If a person is in a 'D/s' (notice the quotes) relationship for 5 years,  and there is NO D/s dynamic (not just scenes cause that is not all of it) for half of the relationship, can you count all five years or it is the quaility of the orginal dynamic that sincerely counts.   What did she learn in the beginning of that relationship?   Was the dynamic strong enough to keep it alive even when life abruptly changed and became different?   Does she need to learn more about herself  and discover what she is really after before she takes the plunge again?  Or should she simply close herself off to learning and growth and allow the years to pass and with each passing year change the number of years on her profile?    

5 year or 2 years.  What difference does it really make?  People are different and some learn more and some less quickly.  I wou'ldnt not be foucsed on years at all but rather upon what someone told me about the experince, about their learning.  Some people close themselves off to learning and growth.  Those people would not interest me under any circumstances, 2 years or 30 years.





LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 4:08:30 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_621938/mpage_1/key_experience/tm.htm#622182
the definition of experience




ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Quality or quanity? (9/2/2007 6:40:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Perplex

quote:

ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

Which matters...quantity or quality??? neither...my experience with each individual I get involved with is all that matters--I won't get in 'pissin' contests with 'lifestyle nazis'



I really like that.

I had intended to be a smartass in reply to the OP with "I have 1250 years of the lifestyle in, starting with being an assitant to inquistinor Qui training jews to be good little spaniards"....but then I read elusive's post adn it made my smartass dry up....

all of it's nonesense.  I've been with subs who are fresh from the gate and knocked me on my ass and I've known subs who'se ass is so numb from the repeated abuse that I'd have more fun riding a dead burro. but the one I've learned is everybody is full of shit (this not intended to reflect the orginal poster) but in general everybody is full of shit, doms, subs, switches, they will say what is germaine to the situation and further thier hoped for agenda...and yeah the guy in the mirror is just as full of shit as anybody.

the only truely healhty relationships are between a dog and its bone....the bone is happy to get chewed (or at least they dont' object loudly ..very often) and the dog is happy to chew.  As you move up the social food chain, ego, desire, unfufillable fantasies get us all in the end.

which sounds like a really pessimistic thing to say, but it's not, because we are all full of shit, it means whatever you're doing if you're happy, YOU WIN!!! *insert rah rah noises here* quit worrying about comparing peepee sizes or who has the better dungeon and just enjoy the ride.  if somebody doesn't like how you do things, fuck em, they don't pay your bills or fetch your dinner.  there is a certain amount of freedom that goes along with that way of thinking.  ....it also can permit you to run around in a moldy robe that hasn't seen a washing machine in 3 years, so do use some discretion with the "I'm happy so fuck em" premise there is something to be said for basic style in how we all do things. 
I don't know if 'they get us all in the end' or actually motivate us to be better- do better...I certainly wouldn't want ot be the 'milkbone' forever




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