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Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/12/2005 8:58:25 AM   
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I have a strong fantasy about being forced to serve a beautiful Woman. There are many scenerios i think about but it always involves being blackmailed. As an example, i imagine visiting a Domme for the first time and being pursuaded to do some humilating things for her pleasure which she secretly video tapes... after she would somehow discover my home address and then the addresses of my family, friends and work.
I would then be informed of my predicument by her and told i must serve her for an undisclosed period of time or she would start posting copys of the tape out.
She would promise that she would release me after some time and that it was only a punishment to teach me to respect females better, however during each new time of serving her she would have me do more and more embaressing things... and secretly record them also.
Once she has enough material to know i would do anything so that it is kept private... she explains that i will remain serving her whenever she gets the whim and that i was now her personal slave. To celebrate she makes me thank her and kiss her feet and then gives me a good thrashing... before moving onto more humilating things.
I could go on explaining about this in great detail but the point is ... this is just a fantasy... but i find it a huge turn on... i think about it all the time... but we all know fantasy and reality are totally different things.
I would like to roleplay this fantasy... but how on earth could i... without it being dangerous. The main point of the fantasy is that i am secretly filmed... so by telling a Mistress i have spoiled this part allready. On the other hand i am scared that if i hint at it... some Mistress i meet might actually do this for real... and then it won't be roleplay anymore.
But how could such a thing be roleplay anyhow?

Many Mistresses i have confided with online have told me that would get great pleasure from enslaving a man this way and also found it a great turn on. I know i find the turn on hard to resist and will most likely not be able to help myself one day.. i am bound to hint this to a real time Mistress when feeling submissive.

What opinions and advice could you give me... and honestly... how many Mistresses could do this kind of thing or would enjoy doing it...., etc ?

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/12/2005 12:43:47 PM   
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My suggestion is that you search profiles on the other side that are local to you, since you say you want real time, and READ the Mistresses profiles to see who might be interested according to their profiles, and contact them directly.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/13/2005 5:52:24 PM   
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London has a large fetish and BDSM culture. Finding a pro-Domme to act out your fantasy would be possible.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/13/2005 6:13:50 PM   
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I spoke to a submissive male in Canada with the same interest. For a good mind-fuck I could do it, but I would never be able to go through with it in reality because there is no respect or honor in outing anyone to family, friends or an employer. That is wrong.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/13/2005 6:25:14 PM   
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I spoke to a submissive male in Canada with the same interest. For a good mind-fuck I could do it, but I would never be able to go through with it in reality because there is no respect or honor in outing anyone to family, friends or an employer. That is wrong.

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how is the BDSM community in Florida? SoCal has a great BDSM community........

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/13/2005 6:46:39 PM   
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Forced servitude via blackmail is a very common malesub fantasy, and one I've had myself many times in the past. Indeed, there are various scenarios that could set the stage for this scene to play itself out.

I suspect that a primary reason behind this fantasy being so common to us malesubs is often due to our psychological and motivational dynamics.

After all, it's really much easier for us to have our submissive parameters stretched to the outer limits when we have very good justification (blackmail) for performing all those unspeakably extreme things we otherwise would never do under typical circumstances! ...

Of course, in real life, blackmail is immoral and I wouldn't want any part of it.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/17/2005 12:27:36 PM   
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Yes... but how can such a fantasy be safely roleplayed?

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/17/2005 3:10:03 PM   
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Yes... but how can such a fantasy be safely roleplayed?


You have to make sure you have a partner you can trust. A ton of women on the net will offer financial domination/extortion and blackmail fantasies, but could you trust them? Some of those sites actually do post incriminating pictures and real names of guys with notices saying how much money is owed.

If you are in a relationship with a woman who understands this kink, she can use photographs to blackmail and make it feel very real, even though you know it won't happen. The thing is, once you are right in the middle of it, it feels very real. You won't know the difference. She's just got to be convincing.

That's why trust is key.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/17/2005 6:00:18 PM   
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Maybe a way to play this would be when you find a long term friend or partner that you trust, and who knows about your fantasy. She could torture you or seduce you into telling her a real secret about yourself, and she could use it to blackmail you into being her slave. The more powerful the secret and/or the less you are truly, truly certain she would never reveal it, the more exciting the scenario would be. It's certainly a fine line, though.

I guess that's what I would call edge play.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 11:07:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

quote:

ORIGINAL: subforcedlondon

Yes... but how can such a fantasy be safely roleplayed?


You have to make sure you have a partner you can trust. A ton of women on the net will offer financial domination/extortion and blackmail fantasies, but could you trust them? Some of those sites actually do post incriminating pictures and real names of guys with notices saying how much money is owed.

If you are in a relationship with a woman who understands this kink, she can use photographs to blackmail and make it feel very real, even though you know it won't happen. The thing is, once you are right in the middle of it, it feels very real. You won't know the difference. She's just got to be convincing.

That's why trust is key.

Akasha



Why do so many people assume that my fantasy involved money extortion? At no point has my fantasy involved this. The point of my fantasy is being forced to serve a Woman who enjoys and gets off on making me her slave - she has no interest in my money. In fact the only time money has ever come up when i have thought of this fantasy is when i was desperate for freedom and offered the Lady all my money to let me go and stop doing this to me - it was an intensely submissively erotic turn on thinking about her then saying... sorry sweetie, i have no interest in your money - you keep it.. i have everything i want right here... no money you can offer me will buy your freedom back.. i enjoy your slavely to me.. now kiss my foot and thank Me.... unless You want me to post those pics i have of You... and then crawl on your hands and knees and fetch my crop.. Your going to be taught that you should never assosiate me in this way again... Your going to be taught not to offer me money again... you need to get it into your head... you are my slave now.. like it or not.. nothing will change that... your eventually get used to it... and if you don't .. then it's even more amusing to me!

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 3:33:31 PM   
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Why do so many people assume that my fantasy involved money extortion? At no point has my fantasy involved this


We assume that it is about money, because the hundreds of wankers who have contacted us have wanted financial blackmail. You're in the minority, based on the men who have contacted me.

Now, in reality the one blackmail relationship I know of in real time that was based on your idea of blackmail was a total disaster for the man. He let a gorgeous asian woman take compromising photos of him, gave her his work and family information and settled in for a kinky ride. He got a ride alright! She was here on a student visa that was about to expire. She gave him a choice. Marriage or exposure. Having an established career in a profession not understanding of kink and a family who is very conservative, he felt he had no choice. He married her. There is no kink involved in their relationship. The only Domination she practices is to force him to remain married until she is able to get a green card and remain her legally without him. She SAYS she'll give him a divorce at that point. My feeling is he'll never be free of this user. Be careful what you wish for, it may come true in a form other than you were hoping to achieve,

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 4:25:07 PM   
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Why do so many people assume that my fantasy involved money extortion? At no point has my fantasy involved this.


I think the common definition of blackmail involves money. The etymology of the word is from the practice of freebooting clan chieftains who ran protection rackets against Scottish farmers, circa 16th century.

Your fantasy is an interesting one, and I hope you can find someone to play with it. But you might want to be clear that it does not involve extorting money. I would hate to have you find the right person, only to have her misunderstand and ask for money... and you might decide she was just another 'money domme'.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 6:56:04 PM   
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Yes... but how can such a fantasy be safely roleplayed?


I know what you mean. IF you give someone blackmail material its only a matter of time before they start blackmailing for other things.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 7:02:56 PM   
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I know what you mean. IF you give someone blackmail material its only a matter of time before they start blackmailing for other things.


Isn't that a bit of a slippery slope? Kinda like: "If we legalize weed, we'll end up with a whole nation full of crackheads."


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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 7:11:16 PM   
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Exactly! Before you know it, everyone will be hopped up on gooofballs!

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 9:05:31 PM   
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I know what you mean. IF you give someone blackmail material its only a matter of time before they start blackmailing for other things.


Isn't that a bit of a slippery slope? Kinda like: "If we legalize weed, we'll end up with a whole nation full of crackheads."




Well how do you stop being blackmailed? Its not like you can say " Oh give me back all the information you have on me as I dont want to be your submissive anymore". Hmmm if im the blackmailer id laugh and say "no".

Why would someone stop?? Think of the bigger picture. Blackmail usually means you have something on someone that you dont want exposed. Well it could start off innocent and pure and fun but what if the blackmailer needs money? or wants a new car? Or even wants you to sleep with their friends. Its a road I would not want to go down.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 9:16:03 PM   
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I guess you haven't studied logic. . .ergo you didn't see how your proposition was a SLIPPERY SLOPE. (You can always do a search on that term and educate yourself.)


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[Well how do you stop being blackmailed? Its not like you can say " Oh give me back all the information you have on me as I dont want to be your submissive anymore". Hmmm if im the blackmailer id laugh and say "no".
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Okay dude, we are talking about a situation in which a person asks to be blackmailed. Usually, there are certain parameters. Maybe *you* would be a dick and go into things that the person wanting to be "blackmailed" doesn't want to do. . .but that speaks volumes about *your* characted. The original poster did title this Blackmail/ Forced servitude FANTASY.

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Blackmail usually means you have something on someone that you dont want exposed. Well it could start off innocent and pure and fun but what if the blackmailer needs money? or wants a new car? Or even wants you to sleep with their friends. Its a road I would not want to go down.


Blackmail and forced servitude are illegal. Generally, these scenes are pre-arranged. There are ladies on the net who are known for giving kick ass blackmail scenes. There is a whole blackmail subculture with sites that cater to it.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/23/2005 9:19:41 PM   
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no i haven't studied logic. I read what it is and no I dont feel its that. Why not give someone something to blackmail you on so they can tell you what to do? By your logic its harmless.

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RE: Blackmail / Forced Servitude Fantasy.. ? - 7/24/2005 11:46:55 PM   
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Why do so many people assume that my fantasy involved money extortion? At no point has my fantasy involved this. The point of my fantasy is being forced to serve a Woman who enjoys and gets off on making me her slave - she has no interest in my money.


Precisely why this is a fantasy. What's in it for the woman? Oh, she gets the privilege of playing with you? Come on now honey......delusions of grandeur, indeed. There aren't that many desperate women out there needing to power play a resistant man from the UK, are there?


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