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Sensation Layering - 9/4/2007 10:18:15 PM   
amelliagrace


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Types of pain, thresholds, safe vs. harmful.  Any time you get a bunch of BDSM kinksters together, these and related subjects come up.  (Just try to keep the conversation AWAY from those topics, and see what happens.  LOL)  How many of you use "sensation layering" to achieve a desired level of intensity, without getting into the harmful range? 
 
Example:  A particular submissive has developed a very high tolerance with to the cane, and stretching the limit any further with that tool is to court serious bodily harm, so his/her Dominant elects to pull back slightly on the caning intensity, but couple it with other sensations.  Nipple clamps perhaps, or scening the sub naked, outside in the snow.
 
And, if you use sensation layering frequently in your scenes, what are your favorite sensatons/tools/activities to utilize together?  Which combinations have proved the most fun, the most satisfying, for you?
 
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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/4/2007 10:36:11 PM   
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you mean thats not every scene?  maybe i am the odd one out here, but i rarely have just one impliment used at a time...and keep ocd bottoms like me away from ambidextrious sadists....because they will do things like grab two impliments made out of completely different materials...like a wooden cane and a heavy plastic cane and then after i finally get used to the different sensations, they will fucking switch hands...but its ok...i deal lol...and usually i am cuffed to something so i can't fight back...though it is fun to be cuffed to the arch with V beating on me cause i think he likes it when i attempt to kick him for being a cruel and unusual bastard (wonders if thudbaby has figured it out yet - silly stalkers, gotta wear quieter shoes next time)
anywho...i don't know...i don't get into scene planning...but i will tell you what doesn't work for me...cold...if i am cold, my body cannot process pain properly and it makes me irritable...but i am from south texas so that may be a locational thing...oh and flashing lights...but seizures in a scene require medical play that doesn't turn me on...

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 4:52:39 AM   
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Actually, there was a time when I thought every scene was like that.  I then discovered (in talking to people) that no, it isn't always.  Clamps used simultaneously with other things are pretty common, but I don't often hear of more exotic combinations.
 
My question still stands, about favorite combinatins, if anyone cares to comment.
 
One personal favorite:  Ginger in the ass, clamps on the nipples, and a crop doing a dance across my nether regions.
 
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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 4:58:22 AM   
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I can't imagine trying to kick a Domniant during a scene.  I think I'd die of embarassment if I did.  Which underscores the beaury of this life - so much individualty, with someting to fit everyone.
 
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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 8:36:48 AM   
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I rarely have just one sensation going at a time.  But then I like to have the unknown be a very large part of the scene.  As for favorite toys, I like ones that don't require much of my effort so I can actually apply a different sensation.  So, remote control wireless sex toys, clamps and anything else that will stay put and apply a sensation without my direct involvement are great.  Vampire gloves are good as I can wear one and still hold a toy in each hand.  I also like using a board that I have my slave stand on that I tiled on one side and applied an office-chair carpet protector upside down on the other side.  The ceramic tile feels much like standing on concrete and if you wet it, it feels really cold.  The carpet protector is just plain mean with all the little plastic spikes that stick up - standing still is pretty much impossible.  Probably my favorite combo is nipple clamps, remote vibrator, suspending her overhead to be just on her tip toes on the tiled board and running a frozen knife over her skin (so it won't cut).

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 11:19:50 AM   
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I have that done to me all the time, as it just enhances everything to be able to feel something on multiple areas of the body like that.  One of my favorites is to be tied down, have something in my ass (ginger is fantastic for pain) and have my cock and balls tortured.  The focus may be on the CBT, but I can still feel the pain in my ass, and being able to feel both at the same time just adds to it all.

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 1:04:02 PM   
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Gotta love ginger!

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 3:01:06 PM   
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I really do love ginger used in my ass.  It burns like crazy and brings me to tears..........but only lasts about 20 minutes or so and isn't harmful.  So it's a great way to torture a sub.........and it can be made to burn more if it's inserted after being taken with some toys or a strap-on and the inside is a little raw.  You'll definitely feel that for sure!!!!!!!!

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 3:10:35 PM   
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I really don't have a favourite combination, per se, but love them all.  During sensation, everything from soft and playful to rough and painful.  During impact, a switch-up of weapons is great, especially if you find an ambidextrous Dom (like chellekitty mentioned)...it can end up a real mindfuck.  Hmm, ck, does that make us ambidextrous masos?    About the only thing I don't like mixed together is sensation and impact.  One or the other for me in any one session as I require different types and levels of aftercare for each.  And so does my man.

Great topic, ameliagrace, thank you.

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 3:48:02 PM   
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Subjordan, you probably already know these things about ginger, but i'll mention them here in case someone else is interested, but hasn't tried it yet.
 
1.  Aged ginger is more potent.
2.  When cutting the retention groove, making it just deep enough, wide enough, and rounded enough to fit the sphincter muscle ring well increases sensation.
3.  Twisting the ginger plug in the pussy or ass increased the pain tremendously - in a delicious way.
4.  Cumming with ginger in your ass hurts like a mother.  (personal favorite)
5.  Ginger juice is quite an aphrodisiac, when used internally.  It's one way to make a subbie beg to cum...but...see #4.  
 
-grace
 

< Message edited by amelliagrace -- 9/5/2007 3:50:16 PM >

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 4:06:22 PM   
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amelliagrace............now all of that brings back wonderful memories!!  I think the most pain I've received from the ginger was when it was twisted in my ass.  Mistress would do it and keep turning and turning it...........and I just cried out from the pain.  It hurt so much, but it made me cum............which, as you said, made it hurt even more.  The pain was wonderful.  :-)  And she always cut it so it had to be pushed in, which made sure it was a tight fit so the pain would be as strong as possible.  She sure loved to see me suffer like that!!

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 6:38:53 PM   
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Master's favourite is to do pain on one side eg tight nipple clamp, and pleasure on the other. It's a real mindfuck after a while. my other favourite of His was one wonderful flogging in which He was pounding my shoulders hard but alternating with a soft upswing between my legs to my pussy ... i was praying so hard that He wouldn't get out of rhythm LOL! But He is a muso so i guess i was safe

violet[A] (Maam Jay didn't get a look in this time LOL!)

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RE: Sensation Layering - 9/5/2007 6:44:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: amelliagrace

Types of pain, thresholds, safe vs. harmful.  Any time you get a bunch of BDSM kinksters together, these and related subjects come up.  (Just try to keep the conversation AWAY from those topics, and see what happens.  LOL)  How many of you use "sensation layering" to achieve a desired level of intensity, without getting into the harmful range? 
 
Example:  A particular submissive has developed a very high tolerance with to the cane, and stretching the limit any further with that tool is to court serious bodily harm, so his/her Dominant elects to pull back slightly on the caning intensity, but couple it with other sensations.  Nipple clamps perhaps, or scening the sub naked, outside in the snow.
 
And, if you use sensation layering frequently in your scenes, what are your favorite sensatons/tools/activities to utilize together?  Which combinations have proved the most fun, the most satisfying, for you?
 
-grace


I use it all the time...keeps things from getting boring.  Nothing like taking a break in the middle of a good flogging to add a clamp to a nipple...or to a clit...or to suddenly bind their hands behind them...or to push a vibrating egg in their ass or their pussy.  It can be so nice to be waxing someone and then suddenly ice them in a different area.

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