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xaria -> RE: Lying Master (9/8/2007 3:32:06 PM)

Yes, but she said this wasn't the worst lie she caught him in, so there's more.  We don't know what these lies were, but it really doesn't sound like all is well.  In any relationship, trust is important, but i feel it's more important in a D/s or M/s relationship.  Of course, it truly is your opinion that counts, if you feel you can move on from this happily, then best of luck. 



MstrSkyWoIf -> RE: Lying Master (9/8/2007 8:48:16 PM)

a lie is a lie As a Dom you must have honor and integrity. If you lie both are in question.



crouchingtigress -> RE: Lying Master (9/9/2007 12:11:12 AM)

think about what a lie is: it is volunterilry sacrificing ones integrity and honor for the temporary instant ego gratification.

you may want to ask yourself why would a person give up thier gold coins for shiny candy wrappers?

they would and could only do it if they dont put any value in thier gold, and if they dont, you might not want to either.



MstrSkyWoIf -> RE: Lying Master (9/9/2007 1:35:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

think about what a lie is: it is volunterilry sacrificing ones integrity and honor for the temporary instant ego gratification.

you may want to ask yourself why would a person give up thier gold coins for shiny candy wrappers?

they would and could only do it if they dont put any value in thier gold, and if they dont, you might not want to either.


Very well put.....



glassdoll -> RE: Lying Master (9/9/2007 2:38:58 PM)

Amusing you are in a realtionship, yes, ask. It'll build trust factor, if he does tell you the truth the second time around.



mmsprecious -> RE: Lying Master (9/9/2007 5:10:40 PM)

my ex started with a little white lie about his age...then his job...then another job, then they got bigger and bigger, losing a job, stealing from a job, cheating on me more than once, and things more serious. it continued for ten years until i could no longer respect or trust him with the simplest of things. it is only my opinion but it rarely gets better.
Master Mike's precious



MstrSkyWoIf -> RE: Lying Master (9/10/2007 1:50:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: myprecious

my ex started with a little white lie about his age...then his job...then another job, then they got bigger and bigger, losing a job, stealing from a job, cheating on me more than once, and things more serious. it continued for ten years until i could no longer respect or trust him with the simplest of things. it is only my opinion but it rarely gets better.
Master Mike's precious


That is how it starts a small lie then a bigger one to cover the small one and so on and so forth and so on. until they cant remember what the truth was.



fungasm -> RE: Lying Master (9/10/2007 3:11:32 PM)

Flee. Run. Like. Hell.  Everything in my years of domestic violence volunteer work screams those words.

Three things:

a.  He lied to you. They are trivial things, but lies never the less.  Mostly lies that make himself look better.  When he gets caught in those lies- he's not going to take the blame- you are for finding out.

b.  You have been in abusive situations before.  You know what "bad" feels like.

which leads c.

c.  You have doubts.  That's why you are posting here.  Listen to that inner voice. 

Get out of this as quickly as you can.

Alison



VeryStrictDom -> RE: Lying Master (9/10/2007 4:34:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fungasm

Flee. Run. Like. Hell.  Everything in my years of domestic violence volunteer work screams those words.

Three things:

a.  He lied to you. They are trivial things, but lies never the less.  Mostly lies that make himself look better.  When he gets caught in those lies- he's not going to take the blame- you are for finding out.

b.  You have been in abusive situations before.  You know what "bad" feels like.

which leads c.

c.  You have doubts.  That's why you are posting here.  Listen to that inner voice. 

Get out of this as quickly as you can.

Alison


I'm glad I read to the end of the thread. Alison put my thoughts on this board perfectly.

Run. Don't walk. Run away from this "Master."

Best of luck.



MissMagnolia -> RE: Lying Master (9/10/2007 4:49:49 PM)

As someone said earlier, those who are over the top about their honesty are often the worst liars of all. I personally had the misfortune to talk for a long time to a sub who declared his honesty in every second sentence. I even met him in person (where he STILL kept declaring his honest). Turned out though, that he was full of shit. I found him out in one lie, the rest followed.

It could have been worse though, it was early days and I didn't get attached. Thank goodness. Really ask yourself if little lies are OK, or if only BIG ones count. For me, lying is lying.



grandone -> RE: Lying Master (9/10/2007 5:07:08 PM)

You should let him know that you know... I could be he was at the time when he met you trying to impress you saying he was more then he was.  But he has to be confronted with it.  I have a son who when he was 18 overstated everything it was ruining his life, it got so that he lied all the time... Had to confront him with it to get him to stop.  It took a long time. He is doing good now in a good relationship.  But he is reminded all the time now not to lie.  Believe me it does get worse they get away with one then soon its another one and it just rolls on and on.



kindaconfused -> RE: Lying Master (11/3/2007 7:44:03 AM)

It has been a few months since I posted this message.  In case anyone is interested in what the final results are I thought I would give you an update.

It turns out he lied about everything.  When I say everything, I mean everything...maybe not that he's really a man, but even that I'm questioning.

When I found out I immediately ended things.  Now he's harassing me.  Luckily I have a wonderful support system in place so I'm not too worried about my safety.  However he is crazy and has already made up fictitious profiles pretending to be me and others pretending to be my SO.

Now my biggest problem is how will I ever trust again.  That's the one thing I had and now even that has been destroyed.  Hopefully in time even that will heal.



gracieamelia -> RE: Lying Master (11/3/2007 10:27:00 AM)

thanks for the update.......

you will trust again...dont let one jerk do this to you



swtnsparkling -> RE: Lying Master (11/3/2007 7:35:49 PM)

Nevermind



velvetears -> RE: Lying Master (11/4/2007 8:01:46 AM)

FR
If you confront him with this information you will also be discolsing that you check up on him and spy - you will be admitting you dont trust him... so be ready for some fall out for yourself as well.  



completenz -> RE: Lying Master (11/4/2007 12:51:16 PM)

dont let him win by giving up
There are good, honest people out there that you can trust. i know because i found the One for me.
dont rush into anything new and learn from your past.
take care of yourself hon
hugs
chrissie



Dnomyar -> RE: Lying Master (11/5/2007 11:05:29 AM)

domiguy dont worry about your name. Im going to tell her and your name will be MUD.



mhawk -> RE: Lying Master (11/6/2007 7:23:02 AM)





well first and foremost if i ever ran into a case like that i would wonder what else might be lied about.if there is one thing that i can truly say is very essential to this kind of dynamic being in a M/s relation, it is this. trust goes a long way.without trust what else is there.

to submit or to be a slave to a Master we have to have trust in eachother if that is not there than it is time to move on and i do not mean this in a cruel way it is just that i know myself i i felt lied to i would bring it to my Lord's attention and find out why if He would allow that,if not, i would have to reconisder





unrulysubmissive -> RE: Lying Master (12/3/2007 11:07:21 AM)

i have been involved with a"Master" and use this term loosley who repeatedly lied and when caught and confronted about his lies, his answer was another lie. needless to say, i got tired of the lies and got out of a real bad relationship. my only wish is that i would have been wiser to his games before i became emotionally involved.

break it off. once a liar always a liar.



Bethnai -> RE: Lying Master (12/3/2007 7:49:23 PM)

I'm only going to say this because I need to heed my own words. 

What is final is that from this point on, knowing these things, you will no longer have the luxury of stating you got screwed.  You can no longer cry from this point. No.......done me wrong....nothing. You just gave that up. You become the willing participant to your own demise.



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