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Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 12:48:18 PM

dragonslave77

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I've read some about "sub drop" (sub rebound- I've seen a couple of terms for it), and I find myself wanting to know more.

My current personal experience is that I seem to be experiencing this sub drop a great deal. Primarily the day after an intense flogging/whipping/beating, I am in a funk, both physically and mentally. And it is not just the lingering pain or such from bruises or cuts as a direct result of the beating, I mean a more body wide general not feeling well sensation.

I do my best to be good to myself, and treat myself well: well fed, hydrated and all, and in general be extra good to my body and psyche the day after. My Mistress certainly is as well. We don't live together but She is close by and would gladly do what She could to make me feel better. The problem is most times, I can't tell Her what would make me feel better. Should also note here that Her immediate aftercare, in those first few moments after a beating, is outstanding. I can sometimes get very lost inside myself, and She is extremely good at being there, and not letting me get too lost.

Right now, it is frustrating for me. I certainly am a masochist and love the beatings, but, this sub drop is getting troublesome.

So my questions are these:

How many others experience this sub drop? Have others found that certain times in their life this sub drop was worse? How did others cope? Any advice or words of wisdom in regarding to coping with sub drop, or to lessen its impact? Any other information that would be useful?

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 12:52:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dragonslave77

I've read some about "sub drop" (sub rebound- I've seen a couple of terms for it), and I find myself wanting to know more.

My current personal experience is that I seem to be experiencing this sub drop a great deal. Primarily the day after an intense flogging/whipping/beating, I am in a funk, both physically and mentally. And it is not just the lingering pain or such from bruises or cuts as a direct result of the beating, I mean a more body wide general not feeling well sensation.

I do my best to be good to myself, and treat myself well: well fed, hydrated and all, and in general be extra good to my body and psyche the day after. My Mistress certainly is as well. We don't live together but She is close by and would gladly do what She could to make me feel better. The problem is most times, I can't tell Her what would make me feel better. Should also note here that Her immediate aftercare, in those first few moments after a beating, is outstanding. I can sometimes get very lost inside myself, and She is extremely good at being there, and not letting me get too lost.

Right now, it is frustrating for me. I certainly am a masochist and love the beatings, but, this sub drop is getting troublesome.

So my questions are these:

How many others experience this sub drop? Have others found that certain times in their life this sub drop was worse? How did others cope? Any advice or words of wisdom in regarding to coping with sub drop, or to lessen its impact? Any other information that would be useful?

I just recently played for the first few times and experienced this. The day after I left, I was driving all day long and just kept getting depressed, crying off and on. At first I didn't think much of it, but after it persisting all day long, I knew it wasn't normal. I am not usually an emotional person. After talking to the Dom I played with, I felt much better, and haven't had a problem since.

I haven't a clue on how to avoid it though, sorry.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 1:06:37 PM

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 1:53:52 PM

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avoid, it nope...cope with it...yep...lots of it on past posts...sorry to say it, but i am gonna have to go with LA on this one...go back and read up...after you've read till you're mind is gonna explode with information...we can help with any clarification you need...but the information is out there...

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 3:26:29 PM

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Personally I'm a believer in planning for intense scenes the day before you have an easy day when you can stay home and sleep. Other people find exercise helpful.

The only thing I know that lessens the drop is to prepare for the scening. I like to compare intense scening to running a marathon. You wouldn't run a marathon if suffering from a bad cold, or if hungover, or if you had only gotten 4 hours sleep the night before etc. I'm sure you see the point I'm making.

It's a lot easier to become dehydrated then it is to rehydrate. So make sure you've had enough to drink beforehand. If the scene goes multihour, take short breaks to have water or juice or tea (preferably decaf). If being bound, make sure to change bonds and positions frequently to lessen effects on any one body part.

Don't play if you haven't eaten all day or have only eaten junk. For that matter you could keep fruit and power bars around for a quick pick up.

Myself, I won't play if I haven't eaten in hours. I bring water into the bedroom so that it's there when we need it, I keep a blanket nearby because five minutes for him to get it when I'm shaking is too long. And I have to sleep afterwards, anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour and a half, but I have to be allowed to sleep or I won't recover the rest of the day.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 3:39:47 PM

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My own opinion is that sub drop tells you whatever you experienced beforehand was real.

Take it or leave it.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 3:55:10 PM

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I've found it very difficult to avoid subdrop..........if not impossible. For me, it's always there, so like has been said, you just have to learn to cope with it. What I can add is that aftercare is very important. The intensity of the subdrop would vary depending on what was done to me. The most intense was almost always when I would have an orgasm from strap-on play - no matter how rough or intense it was.

It was such a high, and as I would start to come down from it, I would start to experience the drop - and I would get so emotional from what I just had experienced, that I would be in tears. If not for the aftercare, I would probably have gone crazy. So if you are already getting great aftercare, I'm afraid there isn't much you can do to avoid the subdrop, and you may just have to learn to cope with it..........maybe lengthen the amount of aftercare time until you are fully back to normal - if possible. That did help me.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 6:04:42 PM

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Each sub has different needs for their aftercare. Needs are also always shifting as scenes evolve. What may easily sooth for one scene may not be enough for another. When My husband had his first sub drop we used it as a educational experience. We both learned from it. In the case of a drop use it to help your relationship. Make sure to discuss your needs for after care. Make sure both parties read and educated themselves as much as possible. This will make your relationship even better. Tarantuladoll

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 6:25:04 PM

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It happens. . . espeicaly when your not planing for it and stay up all night playing and then have to take a plane trip the next day. Lets just say Master I was coming home too wasnt pleased that my head was in his lap on the way home from the airport so I could use it as a pillow, Hed have rather I was awake enough for a glad I got my Master back BJ on the long abandoned highway. But I wouldnt have given up the chance for some rope bondage time and the flogging and the spanking to tears. Not to mention the two Toping scenes I ran the same night. And my Master beeing the trouper that he is just petted my hair when he figured out just how compleatly drained I was.

Do Masters ever have this problem? I find its not the same as when I bottom, but I do get worn out from Toping too.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 9:01:40 PM

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Sub drop (and top drop, too!) definitely sucks. There's chemical and psychological reasons for it, and I personally know no way of really avoiding it. It seems you're doing the best things you generally can in regards to coping. I suggest doing something to kind of naturally re-balance your body the next day after you've saturated it with endorphins and all that fun stuff. Maybe working out a bit, maybe some yoga or meditating (personal fave of mine) and generally. A friend of mine takes b12 and other vitamins to kind of boost themselves, I can't really attest to the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of doing this, but they seem to swear by it. Overall though, you can't really go wrong with just taking a day to be a baby.

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RE: Sub drop? - 9/7/2007 9:26:50 PM

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How many others experience this sub drop? Have others found that certain times in their life this sub drop was worse? How did others cope? Any advice or words of wisdom in regarding to coping with sub drop, or to lessen its impact? Any other information that would be useful?

I have a few weeks ago actually. I have not had a case of sub-drop in years up until the last time a few weeks ago, I never let myself get that connected with someone to get to that point. For me, I coped by writing and talking to MJ and letting my head clear. Advice wise, spend time with your partner, relax, cuddle, don't force it. MJ an I live 3 hrs apart and I suffered from sub-drop when MJ was NOT physically close to me, it was a task that I completed that caused the sub-drop. I posted about it on my off-site blog.

I can't really remember sub-drop, what I DO remember is that the more intense the play the worse the sub-drop was if we didn't do the cuddling and that sorta cool-down afterwards.

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