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Branding - 9/11/2007 10:27:06 AM   
plspickme


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Status: offline 		My Master want to brand me. i told him yes if we could get it done by a professional. Does anyone know where you can go> does a place like this exist? And is sedation of ny kind available for you?
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RE: Branding - 9/11/2007 10:46:22 AM   
Sepharus


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Status: offline 		Most professional branding is done within the tattoo/body piercing industry. Sedation is not really an option nor is it necessary....from two perspectives...the pain while intense is very brief. Endorphins will do their job almost immediately after the first strike, assuming you are going with a thermal brand as opposed to an electrosurgical brand....and the other perspective....the pain of the brand is part of earning the right to carry that mark.
If you send me a message indicating your locality I would be happy to give you a recommendation of a nearby artist....provided I know one in your region.

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RE: Branding - 9/11/2007 4:21:17 PM   
Aswad


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Status: offline 		If he's go for it, you can ask your doctor for a sublingual opioid analgetic or somesuch.

That said, I'd tend to agree the pain goes with it, although I'd consider it for an electrocautery brand.

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RE: Branding - 9/11/2007 5:49:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		My opinion is that there should be no pain-killers, and this is a job for your master and no other (unless he has a handicap that prevents him from doing it).

This is like a marriage: you wouldn't be drunk for it and he wouldn't put in a substitute.

It is amongst the ultimate bonding experiences (no pun intended).


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RE: Branding - 9/11/2007 7:11:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin
My opinion is that there should be no pain-killers, and this is a job for your master and no other (unless he has a handicap that prevents him from doing it).


Lack of technical knowledge qualifies as a handicap in this instance.  Brands that are inexpertly done can scar in unpredictable ways, and a brand is really just controlled scarification.


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RE: Branding - 9/11/2007 9:08:26 PM   
Incubi


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Status: offline 		like any basic body modification you want it done by an expert...
Ask around in your local community and im sure you will soon find a decent Piercer/Tattooist in your area then ask them if they know anyone capable of doing it. As with any body modification you dont want this done by some idiot with no training who just set up a shop because it was popular.

When it comes to pain relief it really doesnt hurt that much (im told) depending on the way your going to do it and most reputable body mod people wont work on somone thats intoxicated so best you just bite ya lip and bear it im afraid.

I cant stress enough that this SHOULD NOT be done by someone that doesnt know what they are doing BUT if you really really must do it yourself (or you really cant find anyone to do it for you) then treat it like a new tattoo keep it clean and covered and make sure the subject is well secured beforehand if your using any kind of branding iron as the automatic reaction is to jerk away and that can leave you in a right mess...

< Message edited by Incubi -- 9/11/2007 9:11:32 PM >

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 7:04:51 AM   
BOUNTYHUNTER


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Status: offline 		NO pain killers...I want to know that she thinks enough about me to suffer to attain my broken arrow brand...bounty

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 7:13:28 AM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		branding is not like any other body modification...it can be done by a not highly trained professional...i have had it done and seen it done by both tattoo artists and non-professionals, and the non professionals turned out much much better...

edited to add: it does however require some training and a lot of research and education...not just picking up a hanger and a lighter (DO NOT DO THAT unless of course you want to remove your flesh and leave an ugly blob)


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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 7:21:31 AM   
BOUNTYHUNTER


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Status: offline 		I do my own,IT takes forever to earn a collar here and even longer to be branded with my brand..WHY because I want to be sure she stays here after all who wants another DOM owning a girl wearing your brand...bounty

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 7:59:22 AM   
nephandi


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quote:

My Master want to brand me. i told him yes if we could get it done by a professional. Does anyone know where you can go> does a place like this exist? And is sedation of ny kind available for you?


In Demark, several studioes have deals whit local doctors, you pay extra and they will use anasteics for pircing, tatoos and brands. i am considering to go there for a few piercings i am planning on getting. Be awere though that whit a burn, and a brand is a bad burn, there will be more pain in the months it is using to heal, then in the few second it takes to create it.

To Sepharus

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and the other perspective....the pain of the brand is part of earning the right to carry that mark.


Whit all due respect i disagree. Unless the OP's Master wish pain to be part of the marking why should she have to suffer to have such a mark. i know some body modification pepole like to thump their chest and speak of right to carry such and uch and right of passage. i even know of a Norweegian girl that was getting a tatoo so she went to her doctor and got a cream that would turn the skin on the erea numb, and the tatto artist refued to work on her before that had stopped working, becouse pain was part of the experience. Sure if a body modification is done for some Spiritual purpose or as a rite of passage that might be so. bt for many in this day and age, a body modification is just a decoraction and to say one have to suffer to get it, that in my mind is just bullshit when where are medical means to avoid pain if one want that.

i am planning on getting a black widow tatooed on my left boob. i will get something for the pain of doing that. Becouse i am not getting a tatoo to show i am big and strong, i am getting one becouse it will look good on me. It is a decoration, nothing more.

And one more thing. The one one that is to decide what a OP need to do to earn anything, that is her Master, and none else. If he do not feel she should suffer to bear her mark, then she have earned the right to wear it just by him choosing to place it there. End of story.

To: Bobkgin

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My opinion is that there should be no pain-killers, and this is a job for your master and no other (unless he has a handicap that prevents him from doing it).


Again i must respectfully disagree. Unless her Master is willing to go though quite extensive training on how to do it right, it is quite dangerous to try to brand somone. Bad burns are not omething to play whit.

To: Incubi

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When it comes to pain relief it really doesnt hurt that much (im told) depending on the way your going to do it and most reputable body mod people wont work on somone thats intoxicated so best you just bite ya lip and bear it im afraid.


There are many things that will lessen the pain of such things that will not intoxicate somone, things that for example make the skin in a erea go numb. Doctors use such things for exsample for removing spots on the skin and other minor surgery, the patient is fully awake and allert, but do not feel a thing.

To: chellekitty

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branding is not like any other body modification...it can be done by a not highly trained professional...i have had it done and seen it done by both tattoo artists and non-professionals, and the non professionals turned out much much better...


i have a friend that have a branded spiral on her fore arm. She and a few friends, total amaturs did it whit some home made equipment and a cooking oven. Now it have turned out rather good, witch mean she is LUCKY many, many such home made brands just turn out to be ugly lumps of skin. Some burn mussle tissue blov the skin and do serious damage. Brands are not something one want to play whit. I pirced my own ears, but a brand is very, very far, risk vise from an ear pircing.

May i wish you all well.












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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 8:52:23 AM   
Jayxkes


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

My opinion is that there should be no pain-killers, and this is a job for your master and no other (unless he has a handicap that prevents him from doing it).

This is like a marriage: you wouldn't be drunk for it and he wouldn't put in a substitute.

It is amongst the ultimate bonding experiences (no pun intended).


Whilst it is true that many people do do their own branding,  this advice appears rather irresponsible to me.  Unless you know the person you are suggesting should do the branding,  how do you know if they are in a position to do so safely?
Branding done by someone who doesn't know what they are doing can go very wrong and trying to suggest that its 'the way to do it' is inexcusable.

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 11:49:00 AM   
Wildfleurs


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ORIGINAL: plspickme

My Master want to brand me. i told him yes if we could get it done by a professional. Does anyone know where you can go> does a place like this exist? And is sedation of ny kind available for you?


In terms of your question try body modification shops.  Similar to if you were getting a tatto or piercing you want to make sure you get a tour of their area and talk to them about their sterilization procedure and process for doing brands.  They should also have some sort of book that documents (with pictures) prior brandings they've done.

In terms of pain the pain of the branding itself isn't remotely unbearable and there's absolutely no need for anesthesia, sedation, or anything of that matter.  I had a single strike brand and it was mainly the workup to the branding and the fear that made me think that I was in pain.  During the branding and for the day after I didn't have a bit of pain.  Most of the pain was actually when the nerve endings came back, and at least for me and the way that we did the brand it hurt for a good two months afterwards.  But again it wasn't unbearable pain, just more a constant low level pain punctuated by brief moments where it felt like someone was poking sharp objects into the brand.

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 1:10:20 PM   
Phoenix2raven


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Status: offline 		This may help you http://www.bmezine.com/ and definitely see a real professional if you want good results.

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 4:23:26 PM   
Leatherbeltpunis


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Status: offline 		Branding is available through tattoo shops and the like.  I wouldnt recommend sedation, but on the other hand, who am I to judge.  Also, aftercare is more important.  Assuming the Dom knows how to brand, does he know if  you scar up easy, etc.

Carl

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RE: Branding - 9/12/2007 6:48:32 PM   
chellekitty


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ORIGINAL: nephandi

i have a friend that have a branded spiral on her fore arm. She and a few friends, total amaturs did it whit some home made equipment and a cooking oven. Now it have turned out rather good, witch mean she is LUCKY many, many such home made brands just turn out to be ugly lumps of skin. Some burn mussle tissue blov the skin and do serious damage. Brands are not something one want to play whit. I pirced my own ears, but a brand is very, very far, risk vise from an ear pircing.



well honestly, your friend was a dumb fuck...i said non trained professionals, not home made equiptment...non professionals can buy professional equiptment...at least here in the USA they can...electrocautery pens...propane torches and disecting needles for the devils fire technique...liquid nitrogen/oxygen and hand bent aluminum sheet cut into strips for freeze branding...educating yourself is part of the process...not just getting a bright idea and thinking you know what you're doing...


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RE: Branding - 9/13/2007 4:55:51 AM   
petdave


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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

branding is not like any other body modification...it can be done by a not highly trained professional...i have had it done and seen it done by both tattoo artists and non-professionals, and the non professionals turned out much much better...


Actually, i'd say that makes it exactly like any other body modification... the mechanics of it can be performed by anyone who buys the tools off the Internet or adapts something laying around the house (i say that as a completely untrained self-piercer)... Doing it properly and having it come out the way that the wearer wants it to can happen, but is more likely if the person doing the work has experience and talent. Oh, and like any other body modification, there are "professionals" who have no business doing it. It's generally unregulated, and i don't know of any states that have laws requiring specific training or proof of education to perform branding. Asking to see a portfolio is always a good idea.

In the US, most sedatives are very tightly regulated, and it's very unlikely that a doctor will give you a local anaesthetic to help with your brand. i expect that any kind of topical ointment will do nothing at all to help. Mine was done with a cautery pen, and i really didn't think the pain was all that bad (actually, it was kinda nice ).

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RE: Branding - 9/13/2007 5:04:54 AM   
Aswad


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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

well honestly, your friend was a dumb fuck...


Which was kind of her point.

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non professionals can buy professional equiptment...at least here in the USA they can...


You need a permit for most of that stuff up here, if it's at all available.

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RE: Branding - 9/13/2007 7:20:13 AM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		ahhh...which is why ya'll should come to a leather conference in Texas...of course you have to come for longer than the conference cause you and me are gonna have to talk for at least a week on various subjects....not including sleep.. 

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RE: Branding - 9/15/2007 11:39:04 AM   
nephandi


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In the US, most sedatives are very tightly regulated, and it's very unlikely that a doctor will give you a local anaesthetic to help with your brand. i expect that any kind of topical ointment will do nothing at all to help. Mine was done with a cautery pen, and i really didn't think the pain was all that bad (actually, it was kinda nice ).


You can some places pay for the services of a doctor. i know of at least one place in Denmark that do that, you order ahead and then you will get local anestetic from a doctor visiting the studio, it is not cheap, but it is available.

i wish you well

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RE: Branding - 9/15/2007 11:40:58 AM   
nephandi


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Sounds like how Norwgian RPG conferances work. Sleep is for pussies. :P

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not including sleep.. 


i wish you well


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