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popeye1250 -> Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/11/2007 5:16:00 PM)

Saw on the news tonight that illegal aliens get i.d. cards in San Francisco that also give them access to universial healthcare in S.F. too.
So, if you don't have insurance and need an expensive operation or your child does go to San Francisco!
If they're giving it away for FREE go for it!
Just tell them you're from Canada!




pahunkboy -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 10:14:58 AM)

SF is a very expensive city. I visited a few times. I think I like LA better. tho- ill stay on the east coast where things are still more then a dollar sign. on the left coast how much money you have is the only thing. at least east we pretend other things matter...




seeksfemslave -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 2:59:47 PM)

I thought "how much money you have" was the American way lol




pahunkboy -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 3:07:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I thought "how much money you have" was the American way lol
  some areas it is worst or more pronounced then other areas. for instance- rural areas one doesnt put on the dog as they do in metro areas.

Suburban Chicago moneyu is a huge factor. even you you pulled white collar crime to get it.




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 4:04:45 PM)

Reminds me of that skit that Dave Chapelle did as a politician running for president.  How do we fix health care?  Free fake, Canadian I.D. cards for all Americans!




InfernoMDM -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 4:37:55 PM)

I want to see how long this lasts before we see a postive or negative effect on SF's economy structure.  I am willing to bet the city tanks if it maintaines the presidence.  




popeye1250 -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 4:42:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: InfernoMDM

I want to see how long this lasts before we see a postive or negative effect on SF's economy structure.  I am willing to bet the city tanks if it maintaines the presidence.  


Inferno, yeah but in the meantime.......
If someone doesn't have insurance and they need a very expensive operation why not kill two birds with one stone?
Get a nice vacation for a couple of weeks and get your operation free of charge!
They don't even check you out for the ID cards either!
Just learn how to say "EY?"




LotusSong -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 4:46:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Saw on the news tonight that illegal aliens get i.d. cards in San Francisco that also give them access to universial healthcare in S.F. too.
So, if you don't have insurance and need an expensive operation or your child does go to San Francisco!
If they're giving it away for FREE go for it!
Just tell them you're from Canada!


Then you'll just LOVE what I got in my emailthis morning:
 
Written by a California teacher. 

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor


This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher ---"As you listen to the news about  the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large
southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 Schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll - but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with  trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. 

About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR  TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial.  I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things at the teachers who were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes; spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.

Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and  worried about politically correct" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.  If this makes your blood boil, as it does mine, forward this to everyone you know. 
 
CHEAP LABOR?
Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor".

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents,  he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an IncomeTax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. 
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at  school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed materials.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 to $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his. The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up. 

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND WE DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE
SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!!!

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS
POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.

As US citizens we need to VOICE how we feel NOW - being quiet is what got us where we are now - if we continue to be quiet who knows where will be in another 10 years.SO SPEAK UP!!!!!





camille65 -> RE: Free Healthcare in San Francisco! (9/12/2007 4:50:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Saw on the news tonight that illegal aliens get i.d. cards in San Francisco that also give them access to universial healthcare in S.F. too.
So, if you don't have insurance and need an expensive operation or your child does go to San Francisco!
If they're giving it away for FREE go for it!
Just tell them you're from Canada!


Goodie for them. My SSI was denied, round #3. I was born here, I worked here.
Gawd this thread really brought me down. I mean..why should I have to keep trying and failing when it seems like others can just walk up and get what they want?
[:(]
I just have to try and tell myself that there are lil kidlets in SF that need help & they can't control who their parents are. Yeah, that helps. A teensy bit lol.




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