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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one. Of the three dozen or so real time Domme I know and see on a semi regular basis, only two of them have queening as a fetish. That's a pretty low percentage. I was surprised to hear from some of them that they don't like oral sex ever.  Top that off with the fact that while there are Domme who enjoy oral sex, many of you guys aren't that great at it. (I once found a guy who was AWESOME at oral sex and he became "famous" and in high demand among our friends.. Unless a man is THAT good or unless I'm willing to spend the many hours of teaching him what really works and what is dull for me, I didn't bother queening much. To be blunt, most men are better with fingers or penis than tongue.)  I constantly get mail from men telling me how much time they'd spend giving me oral pleasure and how they'd clean and suck and... And my profile says non sexual only. Pay better attention to what the woman wants. It is very unlikely that a lesbian wants to queen you.

I have a friend who served a pair of lesbian Domme for a time. He never has sex with his Dominant regardless of their sexual orientation (one of his hard limits) so that wasn't an issue.  The problem was since neither woman liked men, they really were not interested in playing with a male (even though play HAD been negotiated.) He was continually put off when asked about play times. They kept telling him that time and place was for the Dommes to decide. After three months of doing all their housework, dinner cooking, laundry, car maintenance, outside chores, running their errands and buying over $2500 in groceries he was given one scene, very lackadaisically by one of the couple rather than both as negotiated. He finally asked to speak with them about the situation. They laughed at him and told him that he was doing exactly what they wanted and he should be happy at merely getting to be around two gorgeous women who had sex with each other. He pointed out that in the written negotiations they had agreed to provide specific things such as humiliation during certain chores, a once a month shopping outing "with the girls" where he would be dressed (he is fairly passable)  and a weekly play session with both women either together or separately as they wished. They told him he was stupid for thinking they'd hold up their end of the bargain. They told him he was a disgusting low life male who didn't deserve fair treatment because they just KNEW he'd mistreated some woman or another in his past. They told him he had just been taught the true meaning of humiliation and they knew he just loved it, so shut up and go get dinner ready. He asked if they ever intended to fulfill their end of the written agreement. They laughed again and told him they'd not intended to honor the agreement from the moment it was written and they sure didn't intend to do anything as yucky as play with a stinky-pig male. They were surprised when he told them that he'd no longer be serving them. It turns out that they'd pulled the exact same thing before and most of the men stuck around for months after having "this little chat" with the women. (These women look like the lesbians in most male fantasies. Both women were gorgeous.. one blue eyed blonde the other green eyed redhead both of them slender, soft in the right places, curvy and feminine looking.) My friend ended up very hurt emotionally and had trust issues for quite some time. He's the only man I've ever know who served lesbians instead of bisexual women. (I know two bisexual couples who keep pets. One has a male and female the other has a male. The relationship is nonsexual for the men. While both men are used for bondage and flogging, neither of them ever gets near any sexual area of their owner. One of the guys has a foot fetish and is not allowed to touch his Mistress's feet, because he's to get nothing sexual from them.) My feeling on the matter, though I wasn't cruel enough to tell it to him at the time, was that when something seems too good to be true.. it probably is.

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one.

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
I was surprised to hear from some of them that they don't like oral sex ever.  Top that off with the fact that while there are Domme who enjoy oral sex, many of you guys aren't that great at it. (I once found a guy who was AWESOME at oral sex and he became "famous" and in high demand among our friends.. Unless a man is THAT good or unless I'm willing to spend the many hours of teaching him what really works and what is dull for me, I didn't bother queening much. To be blunt, most men are better with fingers or penis than tongue.)

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
I have a friend who served a pair of lesbian Domme for a time. He never has sex with his Dominant regardless of their sexual orientation (one of his hard limits) so that wasn't an issue.  The problem was since neither woman liked men, they really were not interested in playing with a male (even though play HAD been negotiated.)

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ORIGINAL: Wilders
It's being "adopted" by a lesbian couple as their sissy pet, being pushed further and further into emasculating situations, and being used as a sexual object (lots of queening and oral service).

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ORIGINAL: jolievoltaire
But note that I am not the sort to keep sissy pets; I would rather more enjoy the presence of confident, well behaved, soldier-like male "submissives" (or bottoms or trainees) who like rough handling.  I have no sexual desire for these fellows, but they are ideal male "submissives" for my lifestyle.

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ORIGINAL: ChicagoSwitchMal


Oh by the way Pro Dommes will 'enjoy' anything you pay them to enjoy).

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ORIGINAL: Drifa

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
First of all, I have to say that the whole queening thing seem to be more of a male fantasy than a female one.

I realize, reading over this, that I have no idea what "Queening" consists of... enlighten me, please?

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood
You do understand that the basic thing about being a lesbian is that they don't really want to have sex with a man, right?

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ORIGINAL: LittleWolvenOne

This is a bdsm website. Some one who says they are a Lesbian Dominant means they enjoy being dominant with women. ...

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

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ORIGINAL: LittleWolvenOne

This is a bdsm website. Some one who says they are a Lesbian Dominant means they enjoy being dominant with women. ...

You're overgeneralizing, projecting YOUR definition onto everyone, and reaching a conclusion that isn't quite true. Of course women listed as lesbian aren't interested in men for sex. But a very small minority of them will play with men, even though they arean't interested in sex with them.

Even on a BDSM website, sexual orientation doesn't necessarily limit one's interest in BDSM play. There ARE people who enjoy BDSM play with people they aren't interested in sexually, and that includes some lesbians who will dominate men. There's only one "Orientation" field, and it doesn't distinguish between sexual orientation and acceptable BDSM partners. That's why there's an "Seeking" field in the profile. I think most people interpret "orientation" as sexual orientation, and use the "Seeking" field to see who acceptable partners are.