RE: Mr Sensitivity

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: Mr Sensitivity

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Mr Sensitivity

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

Login

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 7:57:52 PM

lighthearted

Posts: 1165
Joined: 11/26/2006
Status: offline

I love dogs, I still cry about my dear Cookie.

but, what caught my I about your post was what your neighbor said. the first thing that popped into my mind was, "I'll be sure and say the same thing about you at your funeral"

hth.

_____________________________

"Thou art to me a delicious torment." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 21

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:07:46 PM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

Thanks for letting me know that the shots that out them to sleep work really quick. Thta is very important to me. I found out cremation is offerred by the umna Society, so that is what I will do. Thnaks again, for listening. It made a big difference to me.

God belss ya'll,

Susan (and Oscar)

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to Celeste43)

Post #: 22

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:15:05 PM

Cyntilating

Posts: 581
Joined: 6/19/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

I"m so sorry to hear, Susan.

Please know that when they put them to sleep, it's literally just like that, very peaceful and quick. It lets them go with dignity and is the most loving thing you can do for them when there's no other choice.

Oscar is lucky to have been yours for as many years as he did and he loves you for it.

If you can afford it, you might want to look into having him cremated. You can choose to keep his ashes, and then either bury him another time, or just keep the ashes with you.

You have my deepest and most heartfelt sympathy. You're not being a wimp or a baby.....I'm crying right now as I'm typing this, lol.

I know...Im crying too

Susan...Im so sorry..

When we had to decide this for Toby, it was so hard......my daughter and I made her a special day....bathed her..soothed her...took her to the park ( even tho we had to carry her ) and let her watch the water and just be in our laps...gave her all her fav treats...and just loved on her ....took her to the vets ( already arranged ) and we held her paws while they gave her a soft shot and let her go to sleep as we whispered in her ear how much we loved her....it was heartbreaking but at the same time it was so lovely..she ended her wonderful loving life being loved by those she gave so much love to..she was happy and smiling when she went to sleep...we could see it..

I spent the next two days making a collage' for Sara ( my daughter) of all the pix of toby I could find ( there were alot almost 2 decades worth) ..
Toby lives on... and so will your pup..in your heart

hugs

_____________________________

Cyndi

.."There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. " Edith Wharton

(in reply to windchymes)

Post #: 23

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:25:33 PM

popeye1250

Posts: 18104
Joined: 1/27/2006
From: New Hampshire
Status: offline

Susan, sorry about your dog Oscar.
We really do get attached to our pets, don't we?
My cat Bubba and the new kitty who I haven't named yet really keep me busy.
The new cat climbs halfway up the door jams! He pulls stuff out of the trash can and plays with it. "Hyper Kitty!"
Yeah, I'd say bring the dog home with you. That's probably the best thing for you and for him.
Now, as for your fuckwad of a neighbor, the next time you see him ask him if his parents had any kids who wearn't retarded.
Of course he doesn't like your lesbian neighbors! He isn't "getting any." lol
Pay the lesbians to beat the crap out of him! Or are they lipstick lesbians?
He shoots rabbits with a bb gun? Couldn't one of those bbs rickochet into your yard?

I have an empty box on the floor here in the living room. I take a lazer pointer and the kitten chases it and I put it in the box and he goes running in there and crashes. lol

< Message edited by popeye1250 -- 9/15/2007 8:36:19 PM >

_____________________________

"But Your Honor, this is not a Jury of my Peers, these people are all decent, honest, law-abiding citizens!"

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 24

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:38:55 PM

nyrisa

Posts: 1830
Joined: 11/20/2006
Status: offline

Susan, I am so sorry about your dog. All I can say is he was a lucky dog to have been loved and cared for so much. I hope the memories of all the good years you had together will help you through this time.

Reading your post made me remember the Crocodile Hunter Diaries, Final Entry episode, where they filmed Steve Irwin bringing home his beloved dog, Sui. She'd had surgery for cancer in the past, but it returned, and nothing more could be done for her. Steve brought her home, and lay on a mattress on the floor beside her as she spent her final hours. His grief was so deep, that it brought tears to my eyes. Here are a couple of things he said as he sat with her:

Steve: “For future reference; there’s nothing... I don’t care about money... I don’t care about anything... I’d spare nothing, nothing for her.”

Steve: “You’ve only got a few best friends in this world, and you’ve got to look after them.”

_____________________________

A true lady takes off her dignity with her clothes and does her whorish best. At other times you can be as modest and dignified as your persona requires. Robert Heinlein

The last thing I want to do is hurt you...but it is still on my list.

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 25

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:43:31 PM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

Thanks, so much it menas a lot. He was my best friend.

I am gonna go to sleep now, because i got an hour only of sleep least night. I was supposed to go out tonight with my Dinner group, but I just did not want to go - I wanted to be here with my baby.You folks are so kind, thanks.

- Susna

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to nyrisa)

Post #: 26

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 8:52:18 PM

velvetears

Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline

susan my heart goes out to you and i am so sorry for the pain you are going through right now. You gave oscar a good life and i am sure he felt your love for him. Anyone thats ever had a pet that they have loved knows how difficult it is when they die.

2 years ago my ex's dog (orange lab) was so sick he could not even get himself up to walk anymore. He looked so sad and would wimper in pain. i remember going over to his home 2 to 3 times a day just to get behind the dog to lift him up so he could wobble out to go to the bathroom, sometimes he fell and i had to go out and pick him up again to get back inside. It broke my heart to see him like that, especially remembering how strong and vital he used to be. my ex must have been in some kind of denial and i remeber crouching down beside him and gently telling him if he thought it was perhaps time to consider it time to put him down. As much as we both loved this dog, we loved him enough to let him go and end his suffering. i went with him to the vet and i petted him and hugged him, kissing his face and crying my eyes out but i feel in my heart that dog knew and i saw a thank you in his eyes that evening. They injected him and his eyes stayed open, i was petting him, talking to him when the vet said he was gone... she said they don't close their eyes. So many tears were shed but there was also a relief he wasn't suffering any longer.

This past Fri i took my cat in to see an eye specialist and found out she has a tumor that is very large and 90% chances cancer. The vet told me she probably has maybe till Christmas to live. i bawled my eyes out. We have had her 17 years, she is a part of the family and will be missed dearly. my heart breaks for my um's as they absolutely adore her and it will be very hard for them to see her weaken and die. i struggle how to handle it - let her die at home as long as she not suffering or put her down to spare my kids the heartbreak of seing her suffer the ravages of cancer. She doesn't even really seem sick, except that you can see part of the tumor bulging out of the bottom of her eye. i thought it was an eye infection.

Big hugs to you susan.... wish there was more to say..... letting go is sometimes the most loving thing we can do.

< Message edited by velvetears -- 9/15/2007 8:54:16 PM >

_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to popeye1250)

Post #: 27

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 9:00:56 PM

Marc2b

Posts: 6660
Joined: 8/7/2006
Status: offline

As some one who went through the same thing with his cat a couple of months ago (liver cancer), I understand exactly what you’re are going through. You have my deepest sympathies and condolences. As for the neighbor with the atrophied heart I agree with those who council silence, such thoughtlessness should not even be acknowledged.

Still, I did think up on come back – "and yet, unlike some people, he is mourned."

_____________________________

Do you know what the most awesome thing about being an Atheist is? You're not required to hate anybody!

(in reply to velvetears)

Post #: 28

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 11:13:55 PM

UtopianRanger

Posts: 3251
Status: offline

Susan - I am truly sorry to hear about your friend. This prolly won't cheer ya up.....but I have two beautiful fully pedigreed black labs {very playful and friendly} that will have puppies by Thanksgiving......If you decide you are in the market for another dog by then, I'd be glad to send one of these little guys/girls out to you totally on my dime.

He /she may tear up the carpet in your home or eat the end of your sofa{if you're not paying attention}....but after a short while, you'll have another good, super energetic, loyal friend by your side.

- R

< Message edited by UtopianRanger -- 9/16/2007 12:11:02 AM >

_____________________________

"If you are going to win any battle, you have to do one thing. You have to make the mind run the body. Never let the body tell the mind what to do... the body is never tired if the mind is not tired."

-General George S. Patton

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 29

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 11:24:04 PM

MissMagnolia

Posts: 3636
Status: offline

How absolutely beautiful UtopianRanger. It's so good to see kindness, when usually all we see is selfishness.

Susan, I think it would be best if you avoided your neighbour for a while. If you run into him and he says anything else thats heartless, maybe just shake your head and walk away.

When my Mothers little dog was put to sleep, the dog cuddled up in my Mothers arms, I held her little face and looked into her eyes. It was so very quick and so very gentle, a matter of seconds, until I realised she was gone.

_____________________________

if at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you

Resident Whip Cracker AND Resident Orbs Of Joy.

(in reply to UtopianRanger)

Post #: 30

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/15/2007 11:50:26 PM

SDFemDom4cuck

Posts: 2809
Joined: 5/23/2005
From: P'burgh PA
Status: offline

Susan, I'm so sorry. You might want to consider having the vet come to you so that Oscar can be home when you have him put down. I don't know if all vets do this, but mine here in So Cal does. He feels that it's better for the pet to be surrounded by the people and things he loves; rather than go through the trauma of bringing them into the vet's office.

A friend of mine works with clay as an art meduim and she asked for some of Mr Ben's ashes. She mixed them into some clay and made an urn in his likeness to hold the rest of his ashes.

_____________________________

Ms Jo

She dealt her pretty words like Blades -
How glittering they shone -
And every One unbared a Nerve
Or wantoned with a Bone -

I want a sensitive man - one who'll cry when I hit him.

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 31

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 12:18:30 AM

brightspot

Posts: 3052
Status: offline

Susan, I am sooo sorry to hear about your dog.
Having just lost two of my cats in a fire I know your pain and saddness.
My dog had torn his ligiment last winter and he has mended quite well thank goodness.

I would bring him home and be close to him, letting him know it is okay to leave you, a lot of animals have a hard time leaving too.
I had my cats cremated although I have been unable to take their ashes yet from my nephew, still too painful. But I will get nice little wooden boxes with their photos on and will feel good knowing they will be with me again.
I wish you the best at his most difficult time.

Peace out to you,
Missy.

_____________________________

"Comedy is NOT Pretty!" ~Peter Nelson

But..."May at Least One person have a sense of Humor!" ~KML.

http://360.yahoo.com/my_profile-TD4TwEw8crWS3GHFDcs_DK1rHmW6Dq_E;_ylt=Av2PfG9gH0wkQrMPivuMCivGAOJ3

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 32

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 1:02:41 AM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

You folks are so sweet. Thanks to everyone who took the time out of their day or evening to reply. It means a lot to me (you have no idea). Thanks.

velvetears: I struggled with this decision. But my Vet kept emphasizing to me this morning, that he tells all of his clients who face this decision, that: "There is no right or wrong here. It is what is best for the pet, and for you".

But I will say this: It bothers me to see him suffer (it might bother your kids alot, too, I am not altogether certain which way is best for sure). In any case, my heart truly, deeply goes out to you about your kitty cat.

Tonight, I took a good look at how much Oscar was sufferring; he hasn't moved from his bed all day and night (except twice when I took him outside to do his business). He can't walk, he won't eat, it seems a struggle for him to even drink water. He went downhill really, really fast.

This time last week, he was at least trying to walk (it didn't appear to hurt him), and he was as ravenous as ever for any snacks I offerred. His breathing is very labored. Just now when I was downstairs looking at him, his eyes looked really glazed, and it is obvious he is uncomfortable. He looked at me, as if to say: "Help, me Mom". So I am sleeping next tohim, so i can help if he needs water (or togo otu, or anything I could help with) and pet him.

If I could end this sufferring for him tonight or tommorrow, I would - but the Vet won't either come here, or let me come there to do this until at least Monday (and I am going to see if I can get him to come here, or if he knows another Vet who will do this, if he cannot. Good suggestion SFFemDom4cuck).

UtopianRanger: That is an incredibly kind offer for you to make: Re the Lab pups. I love Labs! I might just take you up on that (I will let you know later, if that is okay.) That is really very kind, and I appreciate it a lot.

brightspot: I looked into cremation today, and decided that is what I am gonna do. I am sorry about your cats, too.

nyrisa: Your post made me cry (in a good way).

Cyntilating: A collage is a wonderful idea. I am taking a lot of pics of Oscar this week-end (strangley enough, i don't have all that many, maybe 20 or so, and he's been mine for 8-1/2 of his 9 years), thankd for the suggestion and kind words.

MissMagnolia: It would be great if I could have the chance to cuddle him when this happens. I am going to inquire.. thanks for bringing that possibility up.

lighthearted: Thanks much for the kind words. Sorry to hear about Cookie.

marc2b: Thanks for your kind words, and I am sorry to hear about the recent death of your cat.

popeye1250: Yes, the people I know mostly treat their pets like family (I know mine have always been treated that way) Your cats sound like they enjoy living with you.

I hope anyone I haven't mentioned isn't mad at me for that - I definitely appreciated everyone's kind words (and am a bit woozy due to lack of sleep, please forgive me). It made a good difference to me, and i hope all of you have a wonderful Sunday, and week!

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 9/16/2007 1:13:27 AM >

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to brightspot)

Post #: 33

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 3:00:50 AM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

velvetears: I was thinking about what you said about your kitty's cancer diagnosis, and based on personal experience, if he feels really strongly about it that it's cancer, then it probably is cancer, BUT I'd maybe also opt to have the pathologist check any cell biopsy twice, and maybe even get a second diagnosis altogether, just to be sure. Because, if it is some kind of other infection instead of cancer, it is much more treatable (in many cases). That's what the Vet I saw this week-end said to me anyway.

Reason I am saying this is, Oscar was very sick about a month ago, and I took him back to my regular Vet, who said it was just his old Liver disease (that he has last Winter) acting up again, and gave him some anti-biotics. he then appeared to rally a lot, and feel better. I like my regular Vet, but when he said he couldn't repair Oscar's torn ligment in his leg, I was forced to find another Animal Clinic that could do it.

In the process, they took some X-rays, of course, and I was amazed at the size of the Lymphatic cancer tumors Oscar has. I don't really know how my regular Vet could have missed them, they were just so huge and pervasive. I am not angry particularly, because this cancer is also appears to be incredibly aggressive - the size of Oscar's abdomen is almost twice today what it was just last week, due to being swollen (presumably from the cancer), so it is possible for him to have missed it, I guess. But - I can't help but wonder if I'd caught it earlier, if it maybe would not have been a probable lost cause to treat it.

So mayeb even if your Vet says your kitty has cancer, get a second opinion. Because unless the Pathologist did a scan of the actual cells he considers cancerous (akin to a biopsy) it could also maybe be an infection (which is in many cases, much mroe treatable). My Vet didn't conclude it was cancer until he did a biopsy.

Maybe yours already has done this - I just wanted to mention this - and there is more than one way to diagnose cancer (and some methodds are more reliable than others), and also to rule out some other infection as a cause of the illness. My second Vet used two biopsies of cells taken from what he presumed to be a cancerous tumor, plus blood tests, plus X-rays.

In any case, I am very sorry about your kitty cat.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 9/16/2007 3:03:57 AM >

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 34

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 3:38:53 AM

Rule

Posts: 10479
Joined: 12/5/2005
Status: offline

It seems to me that your insensitive killer neighbour attempted to be considerate of you.

Why not make good use of the (lack of) abilities of your killer neighbour?

You have a dog that is suffering. You have decided that he can do without that suffering and that his life must be ended to that purpose. You also have an insensitive professional killer neighbour that attempted to be considerate of you and that has a gun. If you ask him nicely to end the suffering of your dog in a painless and immediate way, I suspect that he will gladly oblige you and that he will feel good about doing that (it is what he was born for). You will have a better relation with your neighbour. (Give him a plant to show your gratitude.) Your dog will not have the stress of being brought to the animal hospital. You will not have to pay a fortune to the animal hospital - strangers, unlike your neighbour - for killing your dog.

Courage.

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 35

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 3:46:44 AM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

Rule: All I can say is - maybe you had to be there. My guess is that anyone in their 50's (which he is) who hasn't learned in all that time to have enough rudimentary social skill, to avoid these kinds of comments in this kind of sitaution isn't trying very hard to be particularly nice, and maybe should be at least used to by now expecting same in return. I see no reason to be overly "understanding". I decided last year it is no longer my job to "mother" (or really even tolerate) anti-social types. It's a thankless job, in its best moments.

The man is a grown adult, not a teen-ager. I am going to just blow him off, his comments aren't worth a response, frankly. Blowing him off is something I am pretty sure would piss off anyone intent on making these types of remarks to bother someone anyway. It's just such a juvenile way (IMO) for a grown adult to behave, it is (as already noted by some others) very much worth completely over-looking.

Re: Your 2nd comment: Because getting shot with a gun would be a lot more inhumane in my book, in terms of being painful (and dangerous, and awful to watch) than allowing a trained Vet to give him a simple medical needle shot that will act in about 5 seconds to end his life.

Thanks for the note about having courage though. I have (fortunately or not) dealt with a hopeless situation before (as well as apparently hopelessly socially clueless types - this particular remark of his hit me at a very raw moment), and I am pretty sure I will handle it just fine. The whole situation is just sad for right now, but I am sure this feeling will abate eventually.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 9/16/2007 4:03:32 AM >

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to Rule)

Post #: 36

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 4:02:35 AM

itseeks

Posts: 43
Joined: 3/26/2007
Status: offline

I am sorry about youre dog.I know how much that hurts.

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 37

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 4:04:17 AM

SusanofO

Posts: 5672
Joined: 12/19/2005
Status: offline

itseeks: Thanks , sweetheart. I appreciate that.

- Susan

_____________________________

"Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

(in reply to itseeks)

Post #: 38

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 8:39:24 AM

velvetears

Posts: 2933
Joined: 6/19/2006
Status: offline

Thanks susan, she is going for a biopsy in a couple of weeks. It is incredibly expensive

and vets around here anyway, won't accept payment plans. They want $150.00 to just cremate your pet. She says this is very common in older cats so shes pretty sure it is what she thinks it is and saw with her little eye tools that the tumor has gone far into the eye socket and perhaps even going ito her brain at this point. What troubled me most is that when i asked her would she cry a lot or let me know if she was in a lot of pain she said prolly not, cats just sort of isolate and get cranky when they are in pain, so i will have to be super vigilent with her. She is already sort of isolating, has been for a few months now really. She used to always sleep on top of my bed or if it's cold under the covers with me, she stopped doing that. But she still purrs and begged for some of my chicken last night, it's hard to believe she can be that sick.

_____________________________

Religion is for people who are scared of hell, Spirituality is for people who have been there

(in reply to SusanofO)

Post #: 39

RE: Mr Sensitivity - 9/16/2007 8:48:26 AM

sexyred1

Posts: 8998
Joined: 8/9/2007
Status: offline

Susan, my heartfelt sympathy is with you...my entire family has had about 4 beloved pets (cats) pass on and each time was as difficult as the first. I myself have a 12 year old kitty named Belle.

Pets are the best and most loving companions in the world and it is heartbreaking to see them suffer. I wish you the best moving forward. Hugs.

(in reply to velvetears)

Post #: 40

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Mr Sensitivity

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

Jump to:

New Messages	No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages	Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages	Locked w/o New Messages

Post New Thread

Reply to Message

Post New Poll

Submit Vote

Delete My Own Post

Delete My Own Thread

Rate Posts

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.110