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ownedgirlie -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:38:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin Thus the net result for the slave is that there are limits placed upon her. But she can claim honestly that she has no limits, thus leaving it to the master to define the limits for her. So she does not need limits as opposed to having no limits. That was my latest question..........does no longer having a need for "limits" or acquiring "limits" from the Dominants the same as having "no limits"? I saw you ask this before, too, and honestly don't know how to answer it any more simply than this - There are no barriers between me and my Master's access to me, be that access phyiscal, mental, emotional, or spiritual. While there may be limitations in my abilities to do XY or Z, I am a being, fully splayed open in all ways, for his taking. Whether or not he wishes to impose limits on himself is up to him. He might, and they might change later, but that is also his choice. Whatever the case, I remain as I am, completely available to him. There are things he might require of me that are virtually impossible for me to do. I will either learn them, or he will realize the impossibility - you know, like I can't hold my breath longer than a certain period of time before passing out, and I can't fly, etc...But I place no intentional barriers between us. And if he does something that I have a bad reaction to, either he chooses not to do it, or I learn to react better. I wouldn't say I've acquired his limits. That would mean taking his limits and calling them my own. That means if he changes his limits, I would have to relearn them and re-establish them for myself. It's easier for me to just go with the flow, and trust him explicitly as a human being, a man and my Master.

chellekitty -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:39:54 PM)
DG....the rapid decomposure is a buzzkill....invest in a walk in freezer...

Rover -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty to fully understand you, i must first fully understand the words you are using...there is one word you continually use that i have yet to have had satisfactorially defined... be please reply a.s.a.p. so that i may understand... thanks in advance chelle LOL Suuuuuuurrreee. ;) John

chellekitty -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:41:51 PM)
dang...hehe i knew you would appreciate that... chelle

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:46:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored So she does not need limits as opposed to having no limits. That was my latest question..........does no longer having a need for "limits" or acquiring "limits" from the Dominants the same as having "no limits"? Do you consider yourself a literal "no limit" slave or do you feel in your relationship limits are no longer needed because you are secure with your Doms limits or choices? As it applies to your relationship--Is it one or the other or neither?

Bobkgin -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:49:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin Thus the net result for the slave is that there are limits placed upon her. But she can claim honestly that she has no limits, thus leaving it to the master to define the limits for her. So she does not need limits as opposed to having no limits. That was my latest question..........does no longer having a need for "limits" or acquiring "limits" from the Dominants the same as having "no limits"? Well, the answer to that question depends upon who you ask. I've spoken to a few over the years who claimed they had no limits. Through questions much like the one Cyndi described, I showed them they all had limits. The best understanding I've developed regarding no limit slaves is that they are so adaptive they take on whatever limits the authority they recognize provides. In and of themselves, they have no limits. They will do what is required of them. But they require a master. And they do not take the first person to walk by: they are selective. So in a sense they are seeking a master whose limits they can accept.

ownedgirlie -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:51:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored Do you consider yourself a literal "no limit" slave or do you feel in your relationship limits are no longer needed because you are secure with your Doms limits or choices? As it applies to your relationship--Is it one or the other or neither? I am without limits to my Master. I am secure with his principles and philosophies to life as a human being and a Master. When he found me, I did not consider myself a no-limit slave, by any means. I did not consider myself a slave, actually. Upon coming to know him, learn him, trust him, love him, the boundaries went away. We never went through a comprehensive check list of acts that might or might not be limits. We did talk about some things in the beginning, which, at the time, were not something either of us wanted to do. Over time, he wanted to do them after all, and did.

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:55:51 PM)
Maybe I am not phrasing it right. Are you comfortable within the limits of your relationship OR Are you willing to have all your teeth pulled out for your partners enjoyment, remained chained or caged 24 hours a day, shave your hair bald, and eat from the floor in a doggie bowl the rest of your life? My question is again do you need limits on your relationship or have taken on another to consider yourself a "no limit" bottom (slave, sub, etc). IN this case people are considering not needing limits in a healthy established relationship as having "no limits". My mother did not need any limits with my father. They new each well and were not in this type of dynamic so to speak. "No limits" to me is a bit of a hyberbole yet I am aware of extreme identifiers of "no limits". I have not seem to have heard anyone on this thread claiming the latter as of yet. However, it is a confusing topic to convey so I may very well be wrong.

camille65 -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 5:58:41 PM)
Knowing the man he is. Knowing that he simply would not ask crippling or detrimental things from me. Knowing he wants only for me to be the best person I can be. Knowing all that and more lets me state that with him I have no limits.

domiguy -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:05:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 Knowing the man he is. Knowing that he simply would not ask crippling or detrimental things from me. Knowing he wants only for me to be the best person I can be. Knowing all that and more lets me state that with him I have no limits. Okay....But lets say he gets hit on the head.....And suddenly becomes the Dom from Hell and he wants those crippling and detrimental things from you....Still no limits? Do you just allow them to happen?

greenearth21 -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:05:41 PM)
Well, i personally think that everyone has limits. Some may say that I'm not a real slave (although I consider myself more of a sub) etc, but I do agree with rover, that even slaves/subs have limits. Just as much as doms do. Just because I trust my partner(dominant) does not mean that I have no reservations to my well being. There are just somethings that I would not do and those are things that my partner has to respect; I am after all a human being with feelings, right? Bill you wrote "That trust is that the owner will take care of the slave and conversely that the slave will go where the owner guides even if afraid or in pain.... ". I would trust that my owner would take care of me and not put me in any danger. But the moment I feel that the way things are going...oh I'm going to stomp on the breaks. Perhaps through time this would change (soft limit?) with the proper guidance and patience, but as soon as I see a threat coming my way and my owner pushes me without regard to my feelings...heck no. I'm waiting for the stone throwers. but before you do so...remember the glass house :)

ownedgirlie -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:05:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored Maybe I am not phrasing it right. Are you comfortable within the limits of your relationship OR Are you willing to have all your teeth pulled out for your partners enjoyment, remained chained or caged 24 hours a day, shave your hair bald, and eat from the floor in a doggie bowl the rest of your life? Whether or not I am comfortable is not a requirement for my slavery. Often times I am quite uncomfortable. Overall, however, I am extremely comfortable and happy in this relationship. And yes, I am willing to have done whatever he wants me to have done. He'd find a 24/7 caged slave rather boring and unuseful to him, however, but if he wanted to do that to me then so be it. He has also threatened to shave my head, say if I cut my hair too short (he prefers grabbable hair). And I often eat out of a bowl on the floor, although sometimes it's directly off the floor, sans the bowl. If he chose that for me for the rest of my life, I suppose I'd ask if I could bring my wireless laptop in the cage with me so I could still talk to all you fine folks, lol. quote: My question is again do you need limits on your relationship or have taken on another to consider yourself a "no limit" bottom (slave, sub, etc). IN this case people are considering not needing limits in a healthy established relationship as having "no limits". My mother did not need any limits with my father. They new each well and were not in this type of dynamic so to speak. When you say "taken on another" I am not sure what you mean. I do not need to limit my slavery to him in any way. If he imposes limits on me, that is for him to decide. If he changes his limits and does something ghastly (which has happened), then that is for me to deal with (he will help me deal if I get stuck, however). I did not advertise myself to him as a no limits slave. I told him I wanted to become his slave and I would adjust to whatever he wanted to put on me. quote: "No limits" to me is a bit of a hyberbole yet I am aware of extreme identifiers of "no limits". I have not seem to have heard anyone on this thread claiming the latter as of yet. As I mentioned, there are things that are simply impossible for me to do. If something is possible and he wants it, I will figure out a way to do it.

camille65 -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:06:46 PM)
If he had a closed head injury then I would make sure that he received appropriate medical care, just as I would for anyone that I love.

chellekitty -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:11:25 PM)
this is you...[sm=banghead.gif] why do you do that to yourself? you know better...or do YOU like self imposed head injuries

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:20:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 Knowing the man he is. Knowing that he simply would not ask crippling or detrimental things from me. Knowing he wants only for me to be the best person I can be. Knowing all that and more lets me state that with him I have no limits. So you guys are on the same page and have no needs for explicit limits???

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:22:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored Do you consider yourself a literal "no limit" slave or do you feel in your relationship limits are no longer needed because you are secure with your Doms limits or choices? As it applies to your relationship--Is it one or the other or neither? I am without limits to my Master. So you are without any need for limits with your Master?

ownedgirlie -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:24:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored Do you are without a need for limits with your Master? I apologize for my confusion, but you seem to be asking the same question to me repeatedly...? I must not be understanding, seriously. I do not need to place limits on my Master, and I don't.

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:24:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: greenearth21 Well, i personally think that everyone has limits. Some may say that I'm not a real slave (although I consider myself more of a sub) etc, but I do agree with rover, that even slaves/subs have limits. Just as much as doms do. Just because I trust my partner(dominant) does not mean that I have no reservations to my well being. There are just somethings that I would not do and those are things that my partner has to respect; I am after all a human being with feelings, right? Bill you wrote "That trust is that the owner will take care of the slave and conversely that the slave will go where the owner guides even if afraid or in pain.... ". I would trust that my owner would take care of me and not put me in any danger. But the moment I feel that the way things are going...oh I'm going to stomp on the breaks. Perhaps through time this would change (soft limit?) with the proper guidance and patience, but as soon as I see a threat coming my way and my owner pushes me without regard to my feelings...heck no. I'm waiting for the stone throwers. but before you do so...remember the glass house :) Sweetie, defer the stones in my direction.......Your post seems very honest and made a lot of sense to me

camille65 -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:26:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UR2Badored quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 Knowing the man he is. Knowing that he simply would not ask crippling or detrimental things from me. Knowing he wants only for me to be the best person I can be. Knowing all that and more lets me state that with him I have no limits. So you guys are on the same page and have no needs for explicit limits??? Yes. In our nearly 8 years it has never been problematic. Since the chances of his closed head injury and personality change are so low I feel I can safely say that the lack of limits will continue trouble free. Sure there are things I don't like, some scare me & some make me go ewwww lol but none will bring me to harm because of the man that he is.

UR2Badored -> RE: No Limits: How far would you go? (9/17/2007 6:28:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie I do not need to place limits on my Master, and I don't. My apologies, for my not being very clear, but since you used the phrase do not "need" [limits], can you see the distinction?

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