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sculpey clay - 9/17/2007 6:34:37 AM   
LadyLynx


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Status: offline 		Does anybody here work with scupey/fimo clay? If so I have a few questions. I am considering wrapping the wooden handle that I will be putting braided plastic lace falls on, I am thinking that over time,(maybe a short time.) that after gripping the handle that the clay will start to break apart.  I am also concerned about baking it, considering after it is baked, it is stiff.  I know I could paint the handle, or wrap it in leather or or or.  But I got quite a bit of clay, and it is so versatile.  *grins* I wonder if any of the clay magazines would except a picture and article of an item such as this?

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RE: sculpey clay - 9/17/2007 6:57:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have done a lot of work with polymer clay. It will depend on the type/brand you buy. For your needs I think the best would be Kato. It is the most plastic like (bendable) once it's baked. The others can be a bit more brittle. Next in line would be Fimo, then Sculpey III and then Sculpey (which is extremely brittle and probably would not hold up at all.)

You should be able to bake it on wood without any trouble. Try not to get the clay too thick as it will sag when it get's hot or bubble. To make sure it sticks well you can coat the handle with Sobo glue. Then wrap the handle and lay it on a bed of Fiberfill (this will keep it from getting shiny spots where it melts against the bottom of the pan in the oven). Then bake it according to package instructions. If you have an oven thermometer use it. Poly clay will not burn from being baked too long, but it will burn from being baked at too high a temp.

Once it's done you can sand and polish it and it should be quite sturdy.

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RE: sculpey clay - 9/19/2007 5:29:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol.  I went to my local craft store yesterday to do some pricing,(not Michaels.) I wish the big blocks of clay were cheaper, it is a bit difficult at the moment to justify spending 15-16 bucks on one block.  Oh well.  I got a few of the smaller blocks of sculpey 3 to play with.  Thinking of buying the 30 pack, (the 10 pack is like 17 and the 30 is 26. seems like the 30 is a better value.   Ohhhh I loooove clay! so versatile!  But thank you so much I really appreciate it! I will post pics of it when I am done.

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RE: sculpey clay - 9/19/2007 7:34:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

lol.  I went to my local craft store yesterday to do some pricing,(not Michaels.) I wish the big blocks of clay were cheaper, it is a bit difficult at the moment to justify spending 15-16 bucks on one block.  Oh well.  I got a few of the smaller blocks of sculpey 3 to play with.  Thinking of buying the 30 pack, (the 10 pack is like 17 and the 30 is 26. seems like the 30 is a better value.   Ohhhh I loooove clay! so versatile!  But thank you so much I really appreciate it! I will post pics of it when I am done.


If you decide you like working with clay you can buy it at www.munrocrafts.com. They have a very good selection of clay and many other products. If you purchase over $200 in products from them, the entire order is half price. If you decide to buy from them be sure to ask them for a printed catalog with your order. They have hundreds of products in the catalog that are not online.

Also, Micheals runs sales on clay almost every month. When it's on sale it's usually .99 cents per block. Kato, which is the brand I recommend is not available at Michaels, you have to get it at Hobby Lobby or online. Let me know if you have any other questions about poly clay. I can't say I know everything there is to know (because that would be endless) but I can say I know everything a beginner needs to know.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you do!

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RE: sculpey clay - 9/19/2007 8:05:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree, I think Kato is the most flexible and resists cracking.  Regular Sculpey is a good cheap way to get started, but will crack eventually.  I like Premo as well.  It is the "professional" grade of Sculpey.  I truly beleive Fimo was created by Satan himself.  It is a bear to condition.  Fimo Soft is however, easy to use.  They all have their pluses and minues depending on what you are going to do.  Regardless of which brand you use, make sure you condition it well before you start your project.  If you don't, there will be air bubbles and bad things (cracking and breaking) can happen. 

Here are a few websites that might give you some extra info if you want it:  www.glassattic.com, www.polymerclaycentral.com , and www.polymerclayexpress.com.  The last one is actually a polymer clay store.  The Clay Factory is also another good site, but can't remember the website off the top of my head.  Also each of the manufacturer's have tutorials and projects on their websites. 

Are you near an A.C. Moore's or a Joanne Fabric's?  Both sell polymer clay and if you get on their mailing list or email list, they will send you 40% and sometimes 50% off one item coupons regularly.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions about this.  I will warn you, polymer clay is VERY addicting!

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RE: sculpey clay - 12/28/2007 1:55:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, I also love playing with clay.... But like the OP I don't know as much about it as I'd like.

Is it possible/safe/feasible, to use Fimo or Sculpy, for making "insertable" toys?  The toys wouldn't be shared or anything, but they'd still have to be kept clean, and I wouldn't want something breaking apart inside me (or anyone else).

Any thoughts?

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RE: sculpey clay - 12/28/2007 3:52:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem, as you've noted yourself, is that Sculpy/Fimo is brittle once baked. My suggestion would be to use "Friendly Plastic" instead. You melt this stuff (it looks like rice when you open the can) in a bowl of water in the microwave, and then form it by hand before it cools down. Once cool, the stuff is incredibly tough and somewhat flexible. It can be re-heated and reformed, in case the first attempt or two goes wrong. And yes, you can make insertable toys out of this stuff. It's bone/tooth colored, and I've used it for making custom fangs for people around Halloween.

The only drawback is that the stuff will melt again if it gets hot. (140 deg. +) So be careful not to leave your playbag or toys near a fire, or space heater, or in the direct sunlight.

Available at better stocked craft and hobby stores.


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RE: sculpey clay - 12/30/2007 12:55:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		i may be off on this one as i haven't honestly researched it, but there are toxicity warnings on the labels of most polymer clays.  Toxicity may depend on its state (baked, baking, or unbaked).  Still, i'd hesitate to use it as an insertable.  That's something you may want to check out.

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RE: sculpey clay - 12/30/2007 8:12:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: softandshy

i may be off on this one as i haven't honestly researched it, but there are toxicity warnings on the labels of most polymer clays.  Toxicity may depend on its state (baked, baking, or unbaked).  Still, i'd hesitate to use it as an insertable.  That's something you may want to check out.


The porosity of most non-glazed ceramics makes them ill-suited for insertable use due to hygeine issues... however, the simple answer to both that and the toxicity issue is to slip it into a condom before use. Brittleness is a bit tougher to resolve.

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