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Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 7:08:48 AM   
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BAGHDAD - The Iraqi government said Monday that it was revoking the license of an American security firm accused of involvement in the deaths of eight civilians in a firefight that followed a car bomb explosion near a State Department motorcade. The Interior Ministry said it would prosecute any foreign contractors found to have used excessive force in the Sunday shooting. It was latest accusation against the U.S.-contracted firms that operate with little or no supervision and are widely disliked by Iraqis who resent their speeding motorcades and forceful behavior.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070917/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

This should prove interesting... how serious is the current administration (or the next one) about letting the Iraqis run their own country?

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 7:42:42 AM   
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shocking!!  tho that is just one of many no bid contracts.

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 8:28:56 AM   
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Two soldiers in my Sirs Military unit (Army MPs) have positions with Blackwater in Iraq......Im gonna go call their chicks....

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 8:32:23 AM   
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if that aint a shot heard around the world.  a stop to no bid contracts in our lifetime???? woweee

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 8:38:12 AM   
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This should be interesting for certain since the Blackwater force currently in Iraq could kick the butts of the Iraqi army without breaking a sweat. No we will see if rule of home grown law applies in Iraq or not.

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 9:38:55 AM   
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I had posted a previous article about these Private Security Companies.  Even our own military has had incidents with them.  There are reports the the US Embassy denies the incident and that the US State Department is trying to calm things down.  All agree the US government  is going to be a challenge to revoking the Blackwater license and many doubt anyone will face criminal charges, more then likely another civil law suit will be filled, one on many against the Blackwater Company in wrongful deaths.

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 10:04:14 AM   
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the problem is these contractors answere to nobody. no over sight.

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 10:37:46 AM   
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Well, it won't be too big a hassle. Blackwater leaves, and Waterblack comes in....



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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 10:41:16 AM   
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No one who has seen the videos of Blackwater in action should be suprised by this. One posted on another thread showed a sniper shooting at passing cars, seemingly at random.

The main problems are that this may cause a rift between America and the Iraqi government. Also the withdrawal of so many troops will need to be filled quickly.

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 3:12:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

Two soldiers in my Sirs Military unit (Army MPs) have positions with Blackwater in Iraq......Im gonna go call their chicks....


What do you mean 'have positions'?  Drawing a paycheck from a contractor at the same time they are on active duty?
When did that become legal?

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/17/2007 3:28:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

No one who has seen the videos of Blackwater in action should be suprised by this. One posted on another thread showed a sniper shooting at passing cars, seemingly at random.

The main problems are that this may cause a rift between America and the Iraqi government. Also the withdrawal of so many troops will need to be filled quickly.


yup agreed

Then when the new guys get tired of our bullshit and put up a fuss, like threaten to sell oil in euros then we will come up with another wmd story and shove it up everys ass.

Blackwater shooting anythign that moves

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 9:16:11 AM   
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Despite opposition from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, US security company Blackwater was back on the streets of Baghdad on Friday, four days after being grounded over a fatal shooting incident...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070921/wl_mideast_afp/iraq


I am shocked, shocked, I tell you...

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 9:44:33 AM   
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I wonder what we could do if say, a bunch of these mercenaries got together and decided to support an Emperor of Mesopotamia ?



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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 9:45:18 AM   
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What is that gig paying these days?

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 10:00:10 AM   
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hy can u c me

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 10:04:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: michelle69

hy can u c me


e cn c u


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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 10:14:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: michelle69

hy can u c me


Mod11?  Is that you?  

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 8:09:10 PM   
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Feds target Blackwater in weapons probe

By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer 18 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.
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The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, N.C., is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges, the officials told The Associated Press. Blackwater is based in Moyock, N.C.

The U.S. attorney for the eastern district of North Carolina, George Holding, and a spokeswoman for Blackwater did not return calls seeking comment Friday. Pentagon and State Department spokesmen declined to comment.

Officials with knowledge of the case said it is active, although at an early stage. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, which has heightened since 11 Iraqis were killed Sunday in a shooting involving Blackwater contractors protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad.

The officials could not say whether the investigation would result in indictments, how many Blackwater employees are involved or if the company itself, which has won hundreds of millions of dollars in government security contracts since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is under scrutiny.

In Saturday's editions, The News & Observer of Raleigh reported that two former Blackwater employees — Kenneth Wayne Cashwell of Virginia Beach, Va., and William Ellsworth "Max" Grumiaux of Clemmons, N.C. — are cooperating with federal investigators.

Cashwell and Grumiaux pleaded guilty in early 2007 to possession of stolen firearms that had been shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, and aided and abetted another in doing so, according to court papers vie

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070922/ap_on_go_co/us_blackwater_probe



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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 9/21/2007 8:48:41 PM   
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It was only a matter of time until this happened...

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RE: Blackwater license being revoked in Iraq - 10/8/2007 1:49:46 PM   
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And the story isn't going away...leaving the same question, is Iraq going to be allowed to run their own country?

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Iraqi authorities want the U.S. government to sever all contracts in Iraq with Blackwater USA within six months and pay $8 million in compensation to each of the families of 17 people killed when the firm's guards sprayed a traffic circle with heavy machine gun fire last month...


...The Iraqi government report said its courts were to proper venue in which to bring charges.
It said Blackwater's license to operate in Iraq expired on June 2, 2006, meaning it had no immunity from prosecution under Iraqi laws set down after the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003.
The government report also challenged the claim that a decree in June 2004 by then-Iraqi administrator L. Paul Bremer granted Blackwater immunity from legal action in incidents such as the one in Nisoor Square. The report said the Blackwater guards could be charged under a criminal code from 1969.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071008/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_blackwater_report

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