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heartcream -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/19/2007 5:26:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

heartcream,

Just curious as to why you refer to it as "the game"

CP


what i mean, CP, is the way in our society we generally endorse certain behaviors and not others to varying degrees. some times it falls under the heading of 'politeness', or sometimes, 'not rocking the boat'. even being 'professional' can be like this. a sort of way we are encouraged to deny the way we really feel for some set procedure or something. for example if someone 'complains' about something, the reflection back might be, "suck it up." instead of listening to the point the other person is making. we 'work' on ourselves to become more polite, more professional instead of working on becoming real.

true, when emotional charge is built up the expression that may come out is not in proportion to the situation in that moment. this can cause problems. road rage is classic example of this. i personally love road rage, when i am in a car with someone and they have very snappy answers for who they are road raging at, i am usually busting a gut laffin while they are cursing and name-calling. i once saw a guy veer dangerously out of traffic to go hunt someone down who had triggered his road rage. that is very scary. but in a safe way road rage is a safe way to vent some rage in the privacy of your car. well, privacy at least for the sound part.

they say and i think it is true from my own observations, it is the men who never express rage, who always, 'keep it together' are the ones to look out for. it would be a case of the straw that broke the camel's back. i have know rage-driven men, the only emotion they seem to be okay with is expressing rage. they would never admit to fear or inadequacy, they just get pissed off if they feel it.

of course if we can balance out in a real and true way, it makes it easier to approach someone with an issue and not 'lose it.' but for that to be the only way to go around in the world is a bit much. some people cannot hide their true feelings as well as others. those folks tend to get blamed and pointed out as an example why not to be like that, you know, the girl who cries at the smallest misunderstanding. the truth tho is they are not much different at all but they are more transparent.

i am not saying lets all be really rude (altho as a waitress, i have often wanted at least one day a year where you could say whatever ya wanted and meant at the table instead of performing endless psychic blow-jobs, so to speak, to please them, not to annoy them, not be called rude, not get the manager involved, not get fired. not to let how retarded ya might think they are in human dealings, be at all apparent as you serve them food and take away their gross mess later. not to let it show how cheap and plain disgusting some folks can be. no, instead smile, "yes, right away, whatever you want, i am sorry i will get you another, blah blah blah" for their crappy or no tip. i have so much experience and i have seen there are people who go into a meal and set it up where they are automatically pissed off so they dont hafta feel like they gon give you one dime. it is hysterical and pathetic to watch. the trick is to not let on that you have a brain and are hip to the reality that they are freaking weirdo's. there is one guy -a dreaded bad regular who challenges me with the eye contact thing. he is 'searching' in my eyes to betray what a dick he is. he is high maintenance, needs extra every thing that is free. the dinner rolls need to be cut in half and put on the grill. i dont mind high maintenance, as long as ya are nice about it and tip me decent for doin it your way. everyone hates this guy cause for all his actin like a divo, he leaves less than 5% no matter what. no matter who serves him. we all squeak when we see him and his greedy wife coming. it is hard not to see or think about them and not have the word "loser" stamped all over the page. he would be fun to have in my section on National Waitron Day) i feel the natural state of most folks here on Earth is loving. we naturally treat each other well, have that intent. it is the game playing/mind-set/ belief system we condone that irks me.

example: one waitress saw me upset in the back of the restaurant about something to do with the floor plan and she wants to help. she said, "Look dont worry, the most important thing to do is to smile."

i said to her and felt kinda like a bitch for it later too, "thank you for your concern, that is nice of you to take the time to talk to me but no, i dont believe that, i believe the most important thing is to be real." i explained what i was upset about and said she would be too if it were her and she agreed.

yes we smile cause it is a service job. hopefully we make decent eye-contact and have some fine during the whole exchange. but faking it sux and many times it is faking it. this is what i mean. menstruating women often enough dont fake it as well. and then they get shit for it.





Gwynvyd -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/19/2007 6:52:55 PM)

I might be odd that I was never the jealous or possessive type. I am however proud of my mates. I have one male, and one female primary. Also one secondary male. They all get a long well.. and everyone is happy. No one feels the need to be bitchy, bossy, or pissy about sharing time, or resources. The female I have to balance out ever so often because she will need more attention, or more care. but that is easily enough done. I have never felt the need to be controling to that degree over another where I would need to totaly own them. Either they are mine willingly or they are not. Confidance is a very sexy thing.. and I have it in spades when it comes to my relationships with others. Lovers some times come and go.. as is thier will. It was simply ment to be or not ment to be. No need to get all high strung over it.

I am simply myself.. and that is either enough.. or it is not. if they wish for others.. we discuss it. It simply has never come up. I would not see it as a threat.. I would see it as them finding more fulfilment. My secondary found a girlfriend and moved in with her. I was over joyed. No biggie. I know he and I have a bond that they do not possess. *shrugs* [:)] so I am still happy.

I wish you luck in your realtionships.

Gwyn




Wulffe -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/19/2007 8:31:55 PM)

Just thought I'd chime in.  I am learning about the Poly thing first hand with My wife.  I am a Dom and she is a submissive oriented switch, W/we only play together in Lifestyle and keep our Vanilla life seperate.  The Poly side of things that we are begining to join is mostly Vanilla but the BDSM part of things is interesting aswell.  Of the 11 people regularly involved with the group the mix is great, 3 Dom/Dommes, 4 submissives and the rest switches.  We can party and hang out, get into a puppy pile, fool around and enjoy ourselves.  When it comes time for Scenes or Play W/we can all do what we enjoy, whether it's geting some flogging on the rack or bending one of those naughty boys over the knee for an ass blistering spanking.  My own submissive is quite taken with the freedom to be herself with these people and the companionship without all the pretense of sex.

Just My Opinion




adoracat -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 5:21:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x

Silly boys...
 
Wait until the reality of three women with PMS, out of chocolate, and the fourth going through menopause smacks them in the face. That'll learn them!


wolf found this out...three women in the household (wife, g/f, and 18 yr old girlbeast) and we ALL regulated our cycles within 2 months.  he was NOT a happy puppy!

and he wasnt a Dominant either...

kitten, who laughed quietly.  a lot.




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 6:54:35 AM)

Wulfe,

Thanks for your input, I have not heard the term "puppy pile used in a long time.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 6:57:17 AM)

Gwynvyd,

Well it certainly appears as tthough it is working for you; thanks for your input.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 7:02:58 AM)

heartcream,

Now I call that a full and complete explanation to the query. However the thopught does occur to me that the ongoing problems of being a waitperson does not rerally apply to the "game" within the D/s path.

I, as one that eats out often, share your observation on human behavior on the receiving end of service, but I do hope your path experiences havee not been the same.

Thanks for the reply.

CP




Bearlee -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 7:47:04 AM)

 

Does that question mean   "Is Poly a groin segment"?




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/20/2007 12:56:16 PM)

naw,

just an example of my FFS as my finger tips litterly flew over the keys.

CP




heartcream -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/21/2007 12:48:27 AM)

no CP you are right. it doesnt mean the same thing the D/s 'game' and the society one. i guess i was more responding to the talk about menstruating and then got on a tirade about waitressing. oops. i cannot speak from experience at this time but i would imagine the D/s game would be really fun.




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/21/2007 10:49:00 AM)

heartcream,

well for some it is a game, for others a dance and I hope for the main part of the D/s population, it is a great part of every day life.

CP




bandit25 -> RE: Is Poly a growing Segment of the Path (9/21/2007 10:52:03 AM)

I fixed this damn title once.  Don't make me do it again [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m11.gif[/image]




heartcream -> RE: Is Poly a growing Segment of the Path (9/21/2007 11:20:47 PM)

a dance, a game, everyday life. i desire my everyday life to be fun and passionate, very much so.




CelticPrince -> RE: Is Poly a growing Segment of the Path (9/22/2007 6:19:02 AM)

smiles,

and thus the girl has found CollarMe.

CP




chellekitty -> RE: Is Poly a growing Segment of the Path (9/22/2007 6:21:39 AM)

ok....if someone can tell me on what posts we adressed how we are all on "the Path" i will not rehash an old subject...................




Gwynvyd -> RE: Is Poly a groing Segment of the Path (9/22/2007 10:53:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Gwynvyd,

Well it certainly appears as tthough it is working for you; thanks for your input.

CP


*chuckles*

Some days it works better then others... but as with every realtionship it takes _*Constant*_  maintnace and viligance. Even my girl who has been with me for over 5 years gets a bit psychotic over what I would concider silly things.
The things that Betas or Omega generaly get flustered or upset over is thier place in the Alpha's life, how the Alpha finds them pleasing, and in comparison to the others in the pecking order. Also if you have a mix of males/females as I do.. then that brings a new dynamic of some betas thinking Well I should be able to please the Alpha better because I am of a certian sex. You have to disabuse them of any of those silly notions. Each and every realtionship is not going to be totaly equal. They are going to be unique. Just as the people you enter them with. Just be prepared that you will have one or two come to you complaining that well so and so made you happier, or made you climax harder.. or pleases you more. It is Your job as the Alpha < if you are the Alpha..or the Alpha's job if you are a beta..> to keep every one from feeling insecure.. and to feel cared for, and as equaly as possible loved.

I have seen in a lot of swingers groups it seems to be easier. You just cant go into it with a jealous nature. *smiles* and as long as you set up ground rules, and stick to them... most do just fine.

I adore and love women... but even with my skills of handling others emotions, and keeping my subs happy there is no freaking way I would be crazy enough to take on more then 2 females. They are much higher maintnace then males on any given day. Heck my PMS, and my Girls PMS is enough to deal with. add one more.. and Holy Hera. *chuckles*

Good luck everyone.

Gwyn




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