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seeksfemslave -> RE: .BrownboycottsMugabe. (9/21/2007 3:44:31 AM)

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LadyE
hmmm. You see this is where I have a problem; the white settlers in S Africa have been there for generations. The farms they work, were savannah and prairie when their ancestors arrived to settle


With I believe I have read, I should check but I cant be bothered, no black inhabitants at all. lol

Just checked , in the North of South Africa there were Bantu who themselves had moved to the area from North and East Africa. Another "tribe" whose name escapes existed at the southern tip of Africa. Initially Dutch and Africans co operated via barter.

So IMO the State of South Africa was a wholly white construct. !




LadyEllen -> RE: .BrownboycottsMugabe. (9/21/2007 3:45:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I dont believe the problem is anything to do with race though; its about culture is what my feeling tells me. E

How do you seperate the two then?
Were you viewing spaceship Earth from spaceship Utopia would you not see clearly identifiable patterns across the racial divides. ?
Why did say Europe climb  the scientific intellectual and economic peaks and Africa didn't.?


The reasons for Europe's rise and the lack of such a rise elsewhere on the planet is a whole other debate Seeks. In short, our proximity to other advanced civilisations (the Middle East/Africa, the communications with China via the Silk Road, the communications with India), all played a part in widening our horizons. Put that together with the easily accessible natural resources we have in Europe and the continual conflicts driving innovation and that should suffice I think. Africa meanwhile did not benefit from all this for the most part.

Yes, Africa is culturally different from us and ethnically too in terms of its original inhabitants - but Africa is also a big place with many different peoples with individual cultures. Part of the problem, as MC pointed out, is that these cultures have become tainted and overtaken even, by colonial culture. We have moved on from this culture of privilege and status for some (perhaps) but they havent.

E




Politesub53 -> RE: .BrownboycottsMugabe. (9/21/2007 4:15:41 AM)

Lady E......  Nothing stopped him from speaking out, he kept quiet on virtually every major topic, including Iraq. Suddenly there is money for his plans for investment in transport, Its ironic he didnt make much available to Prescott. He talks of 5 echo towns, yet went back on a promise to drive a greener car than his gas guzzling Jag.

This is a guy who will play everything close to his chest and he know his only hope of an election win is to hold it before the general public catch on to whats afoot.




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