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matt4u -> Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 5:14:18 AM)

Does it take a fairly spineless sub to be humiliated verbally? I really cant think of anything a domme would say to me that would actually humiliate me. Calling me names? LOL Saying I have a small cock? Again I just dont see where the humiliation is. Maybe Ive heard the phrase "sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt me" to often. Do you find that subs that can be humiliated with words tend to be a bit lacking in self confidence?




MamaDomme -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 5:54:19 AM)

Even the strongest have their buttons that can be pushed.  It just may take longer to learn yours..............




toservez -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 9:15:48 AM)

It not just the names in itself but how the atmosphere and what else is going on. In truth name calling for healthy play obviously should have actual no real impact as that would be crossing over to bad stuff, but the names, actions and all the other surrounding things can certainly in the moment temporarily be humiliating.

I would also point out humiliating does not mean negative as much as embarrassment/shame which is in fact mostly based in situational settings then deep psychological beliefs.

For example if I was called a filthy disgusting slut during play it would affect me in the basis of how my Master is feeling or wanting us to act and what he is going to put me through but I have ingested so many other things while this is happening that my mind is temporarily change or exposed. If my Master was to say I am a filthy disgusting slut while we were having an ordinary dinner conversation I would simply just laugh.

It is about atmosphere!




LadyAlzara -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 9:30:54 AM)

Actually...I've found that slaves with high self-esteem enjoy verbal humilation.  slaves that have self-esteem issuses....leads to emotional landminds for the Top.  As a Mistress, I dont know your emotional baggage unless you share. 
Verbal humilation may not be your thing.  But, trust Me when I say...even you can be totally embarrassed...through a situation as easily as words.  Ever been accosted in a public bathroom by someone your Mistress has set up for ya?  It's an experience that's generally humilating for the submissive.  So, no....it's not always about name calling...and self-esteem. 
Z




MsBearlee -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 10:07:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

Even the strongest have their buttons that can be pushed.  It just may take longer to learn yours.............. 



Exactly!  Suppose, matt, that your Lady whispered in your ear she was gonna fuck you in the ass?  ...and then she went and put on a strapon...   and put a finger under your chin while standing over you and said softly... 'Suck me, bitch'  ...and cuz you sooooo want to please her...you did suck her strappy.  And...she withdrew it and asked you... what are you doing, baby?  and you tried to say "as you asked, Maam" or some such nonsense...and so she asks again.  "WHAT are you doing exactly, boy?"  and you murmer..."Sucking your strap-on, Maam".  And she asks ..."My what?"  and you repeat...and she says pardon me ..."My what?"  And finally you have to say "I'm sucking your cock, Maam". 
 
And later...when she's taking your ass...you're on your back; knees up...and she's looking into your eyes and whispers softly... I know you'd really prefer a real one...we'll see if we can arrange that, sweet one; I know you want it.
 
Might that press some buttons at all?
 
Just curious,
MsB




MsBearlee -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 10:28:40 AM)

Well, matt, I see you're still here.  Speachless, are ya?
 
I just read your profile, it seems I may have miss judged you.  I suppose those whispers should have been more about your ass, a dog, a knot up yer butt, being tied to a skateboard and video taping you being drug around the house by a dog waiting for his knot to go down.  Sorry.
 
But yeah, everybody has something that will make them blush...
 
B




MISTRESSKUMA -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 2:49:15 PM)

We like to humilite a donkey by putting him in a circle and having ourselves AND our slaves spit in his face.




QueensWay -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 7:53:08 PM)

Verbel insults was something that really tripped me out when I first started investigating D/s. I found some the trashiest trash on the internet; men with screen names like 'pathetic fuck' and such and since then I learned that one of the biggest problems when speaking of humiliation is that it's an almost entirely useless word. As a hundred people, and you'll get a hundred different definitions. Something that would be mortifying to one person is an enormous turn-on to another.


Also since then, I see that humiliation is pretty much unavoidable in BDSM scenes and I know that perhaps as I've become more comfortable and less insecure with the idea of verbel humiliation I've found areas where I can go. It's very hot to verbally insult a man and can be very fun.





paulag -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 7:56:14 PM)

quote:

I just read your profile, it seems I may have miss judged you.  I suppose those whispers should have been more about your ass, a dog, a knot up yer butt, being tied to a skateboard and video taping you being drug around the house by a dog waiting for his knot to go down.  Sorry.
 
But yeah, everybody has something that will make them blush...

 
 
 
Well yes that might do it.




onlyHisgirl -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 7:57:17 PM)

i love humilation the nastier the better and Daddy is really good at telling me exactly what i want to hear...i know He doesn't really mean certain things but when W/we are scening it is definately a turn-on to be degraded like that for me.




idroolchicksrule -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 9:42:20 PM)

Mental barbs from a skilled forked tongue have an effect on me that physical pain can not come close to. I guess I am weird like that. The rest of the time my self esteem is healthy, but far from arrogant. Sometimes I wonder what kind of world we would live in if everyone had a monthly dose. Would it have an effect on Americas collective arrogance? Therapeutic humiliation anyone? Kidding of course....




Lashra -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/20/2007 9:58:28 PM)

Lacking self confidence? No not at all. Everyone has buttons, even those who say that they do not. A Domme can figure out what these buttons are and use them in a humilation session. But what I have noticed is that an act is more humilating then a word, put the two together and you have a very hot scene.

~Lashra




LadyEllen -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/21/2007 2:40:29 AM)

Hi Matt

I see others have said much the same thing already - but really there is always something which will do the job, and its nothing to do with self esteem or self confidence as to what will work and how effective it will be.

The thing is, that although there are perhaps some things which will work on most, really its a case of knowing someone well before one will know exactly what works on them personally. It often requires something tailor made, and learning what this might be, needs in depth knowledge which can be volunteered of course but sometimes needs a bit of digging to acquire.

I've only had this sort of in depth knowledge with one guy so far, and with it I can make him laugh, shame him deeply and even make him cry if I so choose. The latter is weapon of such devastating effect on him, its purely kept in reserve.

E




GregariousGreta -> RE: Verbal humiliation (9/21/2007 5:23:28 AM)

The first thing that pops into my head when I read this is maybe one isn't allowing themself to be humiliated.

Humilation takes a level of exposure and release from all inhibitions and walls that might be up. How can you be humilated if you're not allowing yourself to be?

It's not a question of if the sub is less self-confident, but if the sub is more trusting and willing to submit completely. Many people won't let their walls down until much later on in the D/s relationship, and that's understandable. So I suspect either you may be gaurding yourself or you might just not be affected. In the latter case, I'm sure there's -something- that really eats at you. Everyone has something that can tear them down. Now if you want something that sensitive to be picked at is another question.




solvr70 -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/5/2007 4:09:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsBearlee

quote:

ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

Even the strongest have their buttons that can be pushed.  It just may take longer to learn yours.............. 



Exactly!  Suppose, matt, that your Lady whispered in your ear she was gonna fuck you in the ass?  ...and then she went and put on a strapon...   and put a finger under your chin while standing over you and said softly... 'Suck me, bitch'  ...and cuz you sooooo want to please her...you did suck her strappy.  And...she withdrew it and asked you... what are you doing, baby?  and you tried to say "as you asked, Maam" or some such nonsense...and so she asks again.  "WHAT are you doing exactly, boy?"  and you murmer..."Sucking your strap-on, Maam".  And she asks ..."My what?"  and you repeat...and she says pardon me ..."My what?"  And finally you have to say "I'm sucking your cock, Maam". 
 
And later...when she's taking your ass...you're on your back; knees up...and she's looking into your eyes and whispers softly... I know you'd really prefer a real one...we'll see if we can arrange that, sweet one; I know you want it.
 
Might that press some buttons at all?
 
Just curious,
MsB


omg...that would in fact push a number of buttons for me at least m'Lady.

i've been called a bitch, slut, made to ask for more of Her "cock" when being taken. but You do seem to know Your way around words to say the least. the threat for a Woman to have me take a real one for Her would push me over the edge most every time i'm sure. just have not found One with that sort of creativity and interests.....yet..




needDomme -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/6/2007 12:16:15 PM)

My Gosh, How could any subs buttons not be pressed with a scenario like that.

Only me, need




AFlyInYourWeb -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/6/2007 6:51:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: matt4u

I really cant think of anything a domme would say to me that would actually humiliate me.


It isn't always what is said as much as it is when and how it is said.  It is all in Her attitude, timing and delivery....

I had a Drill Sergeant who could make a fairly innoculous term like "young man" sound so insulting that I not only blushed, I wanted to leap forward and strangle him.  I've served a couple of Dommes who made him look like an angel.




flag133 -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/8/2007 4:37:25 AM)

verbal humiliation switches on my sub-beeing or my slave-beeing. It is the introduction to the physical treatment and a good overture.




biracalsub4wmDom -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/8/2007 6:52:05 AM)

I LOVE VERBAL HIMILLIATION.
I didn't at first, but was introduced to it by a Dom who was very skilled at making the words sound very apealing & very HOT.  Especially the word ni$$er.  (I won't say it here, as not to offend anyone.)  Being 1/2 black, this word seemed utterly OBSCENE to me.  When we met, I was like..."There is NO WAY I'm letting some White Man call me that word.  FUCK THAT!" 
Now I live for it.  Makes me wet instantly.  Especially when it if prefaced by something like "My precious......" or "My beautiful....." 
Ahhh...Heaven!
It's all about your minds, and I also like the mental irony. 




MRandme -> RE: Verbal humiliation (10/8/2007 11:08:30 AM)

As others have said, it depends on the sub.

In my case, humiliation is a hard limit due to past abuse. Facial slapping the same. If that were an interest in a Dom/me it would be  an indication to me that i was not suited to that person.

It is not that i am weak or have low self-esteem -- quite the opposite. But it would emotionally put me back in a place i struggled many years to get out of, not in the space that most Masters would enjoy.

Again, communication is essential.




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