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DiurnalVampire -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 12:49:08 PM)

For me, I carry a weapon. I know, that sounds awful, but its something I do ALL the time. Its called a Uwara, and its pretty much a 6" long stick on a keychain. I have it on me just about at al times, even at work. I know I wont be needing it, but I am very well trained to use it should I have to, and I dont like meeting new people without my safetynet.  It has been necessary once and only once, and thankfully it was there. I am a trained martial artist, so I am a little better trained in something as out there as that, but thats just what *I* do. By the time someone is coming to my home, though, I dont asume I'll need it. I also have several swords for decoration around the house, all of which are sharpened and I am trained to use.

If you prefer a less violent approach, then aside from having people around (not an option necessarily for those of us not in poly live in situations) you might wna tot make sure, on a first private meeting, that you arrange check-up calls or text messages.  And the playmate should not know which one it is, nor to whom it has to be placed. And the recipient hould have a window by which they should be arriving (we al get caiught up, so an exact time might be unrealistic) and if not, then a plan of action should have already been discussed.  ITs sort of like a safe call, but not exactly.

DV





MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 1:05:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jill805

In addition to everything said above, I obtain an address from the prospective sub and send a postcard or note to that address.  If he doesnt want to give an address, I dont meet. If he doesnt say that he has received it, then I dont meet. 


So here's the basic problem I have with that.   I think that if you're concerned about personal safety when meeting(and we all should be), we also need to show concern for the potential's personal safety.    Meaning:  don't expect them to give you information about themselves that you are not comfortable providing about yourself.  Sure....you know you're safe and not going to use that information to harm them...but do THEY know that? 

I think you have to be smart but you also can't live your life in utter fear, treating everyone like they're a potential monster.  




earthycouple -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 1:40:24 PM)

as to keeping someone restrained at all times...not that it really matters to me because if someone's gonna harm me, they are gonna harm me....... but devil's advocate here...what about HIS potential safety then?  Maybe the chick is a freak and plans to maime and harm him once restrained. 




KruelMistressK -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 7:11:53 PM)

Not as a point of argument, but as a point of curiousity, how often has a Domme been the bad guy?

And regardless, my choices are about my safety.  The sub is responsible for their own safety.  I don't mind meeting time and time again before we escalate.  I don't mind talking for months.  But when it gets down to playtime, it's my way or the highway.




Jill805 -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 7:17:14 PM)

I agree with KruelMistressK.  We are all responsible for our own safety, whether it be the way we play or our choice of partners and a start has to be made somewhere.




PsyVamp -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 7:18:19 PM)

I too have my dogs, and soon my attack cat will be back.. ;)
Anybody that came to my home would have had to have met not just me, but my pet also.. and truth be told, not many people feel comfortable first meeting him.. he does silent and moody very well.

Psy




MsD -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/21/2007 8:15:06 PM)

AHA!  Thank you, Ma'am [:D]  the link worked great!  Had been trying to go straight through the front door (www.steel-door.com) ... duh, just needed the /chamber.html [8|] thank ya thank ya thank ya!!!!




YesMistressIrish -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/22/2007 5:09:06 AM)

Thanks for the link Ron and Ma'amJay. I saved to faves. I saw the site a while ago and wondered why I could not get back in...

Safety: TRUST your gut.

My 2 cents: Have things in place. Private the OP, so what you use for safety personally is not known to anyone/everyone who reads this thread. (wink)

Irish




planomaid -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/22/2007 6:53:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple

as to keeping someone restrained at all times...not that it really matters to me because if someone's gonna harm me, they are gonna harm me....... but devil's advocate here...what about HIS potential safety then?  Maybe the chick is a freak and plans to maime and harm him once restrained. 


Safety is a topic that is applicable to both domme and sub.  If after your form of communication you are each comfortable enough to play, there are some very basic ideas/concepts that can/should be applied by both parties:

1) Ask around a bit about the person.  "Do you know so&so?  Have you heard anything about them?"  If a potential partner is completely unknown in your local community, then one should be more cautious than normal

2) First meetings can be held in a public place.  Always a good idea.

3) A call to your cell phone or home phone that has caller ID.  If their number is blocked or the name they gave at the beginning doesn't match, that's a big red flag.  Or, if they won't unblock, I would advise you drop them.

4) On the day of the meeting, have the call and confirm 1hr a head of time.  Then email the meeting information to a friend and let them know your plans.  Let the person you are going to meet know you are doing this.

5) The golden safe-call.  When someone arrives (or you arrive), make your call, give them the address, etc.  Tell them when you expect to be done, and give them a time range on when they should call YOU back, if you haven't called.  You can also set it up so that you call in the middle of the session, or right before you actually move from talking to playing, just to set the tone.  

6)  Before engaging in play, talk about what your thoughts are on the upcoming session.  If you have had doubts up to this point, this is the time to clear them up.  It's also the time to let each other know your limits, what you can and cannot do (physically and mentally), etc.  And, its the last time you get to check on your own internal feelings for the other person.  If you don't feel that you can trust them, or something is bothering you about the whole thing, then stop, call it off or post-pone things until you are.

Simple guidelines like this apply universally to domme and sub, male and female.  A 5'2" petite woman in 6" heels and a corset may not look like she can take down a 6' 4" 240 lb muscular male, but once the restraints are on, the males physical advantages are basically rendered useless.  So just because you are a submissive guy doesn't mean you can't get hurt too.  Most ladies (unfortunately) have safety and distrust of unknown men beaten into their heads by society.  It's a terrible thing that women are more likely than men to be victims, and probably a domme is more at potential risk than a male sub in these sorts or instances.  However, no one should let that affect the application of good common sense to a potential first (or 2nd, or 5th) meeting.  Just because someone seemed like a completely docile submissive at the public dungeon doesn't mean they won't be different when you get them in private.  Think safe, play safe, BE safe. 





TexasMaam -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/22/2007 11:13:54 AM)

I always use a safe call for meetings with a new sub.  Not only for the first meeting but for months and weeks after that.

They usually know about the first few safecalls, after that I keep arranging My safe calls but don't necessarily tell the sub. 

As the meetings progress over time, I'll push and provoke to try to see his beastly side, then learn how he handles himself and establish trust over time before I ever meet him solo.

1. Never go without a safecall.
2. Always carry a purse from Walmart.

That way when I reach inside and pull the trigger, the purse that's torn up by the bullet on it's way out is very simple and inexpensive to replace.

TM




iammachine -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/22/2007 11:45:23 AM)

'Public' (open or membership) dungeons are a handy dandy place for a first play date, in my opinion. I'll be meeting up with someone in this way just prior to Folsom (waves to her favorite pony), actually, to work out the details of scene for the next day. We have a fairly good rapport, but being in a monitored environment removes a lot of the question marks and concerns for both of us since this will be our first time playing together.

Barring access to a dungeon, I always meet with people in a public, neutral location several times before I will be in private with them. I don't play in my own home, period (I live with family). I tend to play with people a bit at parties, and then may play in private after having built a rapport with them - maybe their place, maybe a hotel, whatev. I always arrange a safe call letting a friend know where I'm going to be, with who, a license number, when they should expect to hear from me, and code words for whether or not I'm actually okay should someone end up forcing me into making a call.




MaamJay -> RE: Safety precautions for Dommes ... (9/23/2007 1:27:05 AM)

You're welcome! Glad it worked, there's too much good reading there to be lost.

Re safety ... I do have Master here now and He's 6'4" and big so it would be a brave subby who would take Him on! But before His arrival in My life, I took similar precautions as a Domme as i would as a sub - meet in public first, safe calls etc. I expect mutual vulnerability ... My ph number for your ph number, My address for your address etc. However, I don't tend to do restraint the first time ... I am more concerned that would trigger panic than leave him/her free to do harm to Me. And unlike some here, if there's not a play party happening, I would rather a sub come to My play space because then I am on MY turf, I know where everything is and I have that confidence that comes with being in control of My space. I wouldn't be as comfortable going to a hotel room or such, maybe a bit better if it was MY hotel room they were coming to. Then again, I'm not a small woman, so even most males wouldn't feel that they had too much of a physical advantage over Me. I've never had any sort of challenge to Me physically ... but then I think that comes as much from My bearing and manner and the fact that anyone I was dubious about didn't get past the coffee meet stage.

Maam Jay aka violet[A]




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