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WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/21/2007 10:36:14 AM   
Bobbie9395


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Status: offline 		Hello, everyone.  I hope this is an appropriate question for this venue.  I tried to google it, but only came up with "plastic parts, plastic tubing," so I'm hoping someone here can come up with an answer.  What is TPE, please?  Thanks very much in advance, and you all have a super weekend.
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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/21/2007 10:41:43 AM   
SunNMoon


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Status: offline 		Hi Bobbie,

TPE stands for Total Power Exchange. There are a lot of different thoughts on it, search it here and you will have tons of threads.


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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/29/2007 6:24:45 PM   
wildaces


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Status: offline 		ok here are some links to help you out. pretty funny in what i found for ya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_(BDSM)

http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/dictionary/Total_Power_Exchange/

http://www.marquise.org.uk/articles09.htm

hope this help

aces

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 10:10:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobbie9395

Hello, everyone. I hope this is an appropriate question for this venue. I tried to google it, but only came up with "plastic parts, plastic tubing," so I'm hoping someone here can come up with an answer. What is TPE, please? Thanks very much in advance, and you all have a super weekend.


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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 10:38:47 AM   
Angelsmile


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Status: offline 		Hello,

The problem is that when doing a search with google on TPE one can find a lot of crap as it is rather rare actually to find people who are really living it and who are really having a 100 % pure and  true TPE relationship. A TPE relationship can go far beyond D/s or 24/7, it is much more absolute therefore it is also called APE (absolute power exchange) as in the 100 % form of it the slave gives up his/her entire personality and all personal life choices and everything and gives it over to the dominant which also implies handing over all of the slave's money and belongings, so all decisions about the slaves life and even all  every-day-life-decisions are made in this extreme form by the dominant ONLY. This is in fact two persons becoming ONE. It is like a kind of complete fusion of two souls and one person's mind. It is not easy to give up oneself completely permanently and forever (both stay always 24/7/365 in their "roles" although I would not call that really a role) and therefore 100 % pure TPE is not for meant for everybody, which explains why it is only rarely to find. Due to this absolutism TPE implies its dangers and is therefore often critizised. One has heard about slaves having lived it for 20 years who ended up completely helpless and unable to cope with every-day life once their Master died. As there was nobody anymore to decide for them what to eat, what to wear, etc. It is total and absolute in its pure form. The only good web site on TPE I found is the following although this one is not about the pure TPE but about all sorts of milder variations of TPE:  http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/




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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 10:48:17 AM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Sometimes it helps to give google a little something in the way of context.
Try googling TPE BDSM you get page after page of what you were trying to find.

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 11:09:12 AM   
Angelsmile


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Status: offline 		Archer,

You must have misunderstood my posting completely.  *winks
What I meant is that when doing that search with of course TPE AND BDSM there comes up a lot of crappy definitions. (not looking for anything nor searching anything, that was a long time ago)

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 11:10:15 AM   
ImpGrrl


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Status: offline 		This is not about "more pure TPE" - it's about "more micromanagement".  Micromanaged isn't more TPE - it's just more detailed.

Total is total.  Complete authority is not made "more" by the owner making all of the decisions rather than the owner delegating some of them.

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ORIGINAL: Angelsmile

Hello,

The problem is that when doing a search with google on TPE one can find a lot of crap as it is rather rare actually to find people who are really living it and who are really having a 100 % pure and  true TPE relationship. A TPE relationship can go far beyond D/s or 24/7, it is much more absolute therefore it is also called APE (absolute power exchange) as in the 100 % form of it the slave gives up his/her entire personality and all personal life choices and everything and gives it over to the dominant which also implies handing over all of the slave's money and belongings, so all decisions about the slaves life and even all  every-day-life-decisions are made in this extreme form by the dominant ONLY. This is in fact two persons becoming ONE. It is like a kind of complete fusion of two souls and one person's mind. It is not easy to give up oneself completely permanently and forever (both stay always 24/7/365 in their "roles" although I would not call that really a role) and therefore 100 % pure TPE is not for meant for everybody, which explains why it is only rarely to find. Due to this absolutism TPE implies its dangers and is therefore often critizised. One has heard about slaves having lived it for 20 years who ended up completely helpless and unable to cope with every-day life once their Master died. As there was nobody anymore to decide for them what to eat, what to wear, etc. It is total and absolute in its pure form. The only good web site on TPE I found is the following although this one is not about the pure TPE but about all sorts of milder variations of TPE:  http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/





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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 11:24:59 AM   
Angelsmile


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Status: offline 		Delegating wouldn't be total then anymore. It is like being "a bit pregnant".

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 5:55:58 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Actually it's the nature of Fast Reply that has the confussion here. My reply was a fast reply to the OP. When you use fast reply it shows you as replying to the last poster not the OP.

To your statements I reply as follows:

1 Sure there are tons of crappy definitions in use for TPE since it is a relatively new term Maybe what 10 years it has been being batted about.

2. I disagree that redelgating power negates the totality of a TPE. Since you can delegate authority but you cannot delegate responsibility, and that delegation can be revoked should it be used in amanner inconsistant with the holder of the power. (ie I can say "I'm delegating bill paying to you." that does not mean I have given you anything but the task of paying the bills. The responsibility still remains mine to make sure they get paid. You would be responsible to me to ensure you paid them I would be responsible to the relationship that they were paid

3. Having the power does not mean one has to use the power. or as I like to say "There are many times where haveing the right to do something does not make it the right thing to do."


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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 9/30/2007 6:03:42 PM   
Obsidiansnamaste


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Status: offline 		Greetings,
 
The most accurate definition of TPE imo is this one:

TPE definition: Total Power Exchange or TPE is a term coined and defined by Steven S. Davis in the mid-1990's: "A TPE (Total Power Exchange) relationship, sometimes described as an absolute lifestyle d&s relationship ... is a relationship in which no impediment to the exercise of the owner's power is accepted ... Such things as safewords, contracts, negotiated limits, and anything else which recognizes / acknowledges / formalizes limits on the owner's power are inimical to TPE."
 
The reason i consider this definition to be the most accurate is because it is the definition that was intended by the person who coined the term.  Any dynamic in which any impediment to the Owners control is accepted is by definition not TPE.

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 5/10/2008 11:03:58 AM   
Angelsmile


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl

This is not about "more pure TPE" - it's about "more micromanagement".  Micromanaged isn't more TPE - it's just more detailed.

Total is total.  Complete authority is not made "more" by the owner making all of the decisions rather than the owner delegating some of them.


I dont know why you quoted me below your text. I never said TPE means micromanagement but quoted a true example showing some dangers and said that there is written a lot of crap about TPE.

To me personally TPE has a completely different meaning which differs widely from any definitions one can find and as my personal meaning wont be shared anyways there is no need to talk here about it. Anyways it is what everybody makes of it and everybody will have to define for him/herself. But just to say I agree on what somebody else once said: power corrupts and total power corrupts totally !

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 5/10/2008 12:11:50 PM   
JohnWarren


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobbie9395

Hello, everyone.  I hope this is an appropriate question for this venue.  I tried to google it, but only came up with "plastic parts, plastic tubing," so I'm hoping someone here can come up with an answer.  What is TPE, please?  Thanks very much in advance, and you all have a super weekend.


You need to cross phrases to really effectively use Google or any other search engine.  Because you enquired here, I assume you know it's a BDSM term.

Try searching again using "TPE BDSM" and see what you get

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 5/10/2008 4:49:53 PM   
khem


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Status: offline 		Well shit, it's not a type of plastic?  Now I'm going to have to change my profile.

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RE: WHAT IS TPE, PLEASE? - 5/10/2008 10:24:31 PM   
Leatherist


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purile
explanations.



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