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"Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 9:20:39 PM   
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"Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife
 
Mon Sep 17, 8:53 AM ET

" CARACAS (Reuters) - A Venezuelan man who had been declared dead woke up in the morgue in excruciating pain after medical examiners began their autopsy.

Carlos Camejo, 33, was declared dead after a highway accident and taken to the morgue, where examiners began an autopsy only to realize something was amiss when he started bleeding. They quickly sought to stitch up the incision on his face.

"I woke up because the pain was unbearable," Camejo said, according to a report on Friday in leading local newspaper El Universal.

His grieving wife turned up at the morgue to identify her husband's body only to find him moved into a corridor -- and alive.
Reuters could not immediately reach hospital officials to confirm the events. But Camejo showed the newspaper his facial scar and a document ordering the autopsy. "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070917/od_nm/autopsy_dc;_ylt=ApOKezv6JLdUIJo2ZfUAXiouQE4F

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 9:22:31 PM   
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good thing they didnt start bisecting his dick--------I-woulda said about like OH HELL NO

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 9:22:31 PM   
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wow can you say major lawsuit?  How can one miss LIFE that has an MD?

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 9:28:02 PM   
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i had a similar experience except it was during surgery and they thought i was under when i was actually still awake and aware only paralysed - felt the whole thing.  Never want to go through that again, very traumatic and i don't trust surgeons anymore 

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 9:29:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: velvetears

i had a similar experience except it was during surgery and they thought i was under when i was actually still awake and aware only paralysed - felt the whole thing.  Never want to go through that again, very traumatic and i don't trust surgeons anymore 


That would be the fault of the anesthesiologist and the attending nurses - just saying.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 10:16:57 PM   
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i avoid surgery if i can. i did have laproscopic surgery to remove my gall bladder and it took my gallbladder actually rupturing to get me under the knife again and you can bet when that anesthiologist said relax and close your eyes i was struggling to keep them open cause they weren't making that mistake again.


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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 10:23:05 PM   
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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 10:25:22 PM   
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Just a few years ago, an elderly woman died in a nursing home. They called the funeral home to pick her up. The funeral director and his assistant zipped her into a body bag, and transported her to the funeral home. They put her on the table, and prepared to begin embalming her, when one of them noticed she was breathing. Turns out, she was the room mate of the dead lady. They had gone to the wrong bed and picked up a still-living patient, who was comatose. The comatose woman was returned and exchanged for the dead one, although I am sure there was quite a bit of legal fallout. Probably the lady had deja vu a bit later, when she died for real, and repeated the trip.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 10:32:58 PM   
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That artical was extreamly disapointing, I wanted to know why they mistook him for dead and so on and so fourth.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/21/2007 10:41:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

i had a similar experience except it was during surgery and they thought i was under when i was actually still awake and aware only paralysed - felt the whole thing.  Never want to go through that again, very traumatic and i don't trust surgeons anymore 


It's called “anesthesia awareness” or “awareness with recall”. Even the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Heathcare Organizations recognizes it. It does happen and is very real. Unless the anesthesiologist underdosed you it would be hard to sue him or the hospital but not impossible. In the future though - just so you know - It can be avoided though. Anesthesiologist monitor things like heart rate, blood pressure, and oxegen levels but not brain waves. 99 percent of the time it's not nessesary so it's not done. Your brain waves can tell them you are aware even if you otherwise appear to be unconscious. Technology specifically for detecting this awareness has exisited for a few years. Since you have a history of it I am guessing you can request it or hell, buy the option if you really need surgery. But rest assured it can definitively be avoided.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 12:57:02 AM   
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"wow can you say major lawsuit?  How can one miss LIFE that has an MD? "

It's Venezuela, he can't sue.  Sue Chavez's Government----ha ha ha....And most of the good doctors already left, or was this one of the Cuban "doctors"?  I imagine this (and worse) will happen more and more there.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 1:00:09 AM   
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This doctor must have been sick the day they went over how to tell if someone is dead at his medical school.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 2:09:51 AM   
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I hope it wasn't doctors who declared him dead, and maybe he was sent to the morgue directly from the accident scene?!    Otherwise, we'd have to consider other possibilities, like the ones the level of science we now have available doesn't explain...   M

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 2:49:38 AM   
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Befpre you pick on Venezuela for this, have a look at medical care in the US.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 3:01:55 AM   
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These things, horrific as they are, do happen. Whilst working at a hospital many years ago, I saw a baby declared a stillbirth. She was placed gently in a dish with a cloth over her, whilst we cared for her mother. Luckily, one of the other nurses noticed a slight movement under the cloth and investigated. The baby had been revived by a cool draught from an air conditioner vent.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 10:44:40 AM   
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i saw a show on tv once about a woman who had this condition where she would fall into a coma i suppose it was and all her vital signs would be impossible to read. She was taken to the morgue multiple times in her life only to wake up on that cold slab with a sheet covering her. i believe she was from England. They did interview her and she seemed to take it all with a good dose of humor. i think if it were me i would have a bracelet or tattoo on me saying: If you think i am dead THINK AGAIN.. please take me to a hospital and have them read my vital signs with machines I AM STILL ALIVE!! 

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 11:44:14 PM   
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They were cutting his face?  i thought they were supposed to start with a "Y" incision...
That freaks me out...every time we go to mexico to do mission work, we have to sign a waiver and say what we want "done" to our corpse.  i always write the same thing, "i would like my body to be cremated and divided between my parents, however before you burn my body...make sure i am dead and jump on me, kick me, or shoot me in the head just to make sure because i do not want to be burned alive."  i know it's silly, but....

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/22/2007 11:51:45 PM   
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Damn....that would give me nightmare for life. I think Venezuela is not a top place to get treatment, remember just because Medical treatment in the US is not top notch, it does not make the care in Venezuela better by default. Probably these are doctors in training, but still why didn't they check vital signs? Wish the article had more details.

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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/23/2007 1:50:20 AM   
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I have a friend who's vital signs can not be read or felt.
Doctors can't feel her pulse or hear her heart beat, she has to wear a
medical alert incase she were to get knocked out because they would
believe her to be dead.
 
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RE: "Dead" man wakes up under autopsy knife - 9/23/2007 6:31:43 AM   
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As rarely as I do this, here goes again.

This reminds me of an old movie. Micheal Keaton maybe ? short guy. Well he goes to one of those island minicountries in south America or something and interviews a witch doc. He stole a vial of stuff and pissed the doc off.

He was given a drug and buried alive, but just to teach him a lesson, they dug him up after while. He did however, keep the vial. (somehow) At the end of the movie the text said that it was based on a true story, and that he had gotten a vial of the stuff and brought it back. It was named Zombinol.

Whatever this shit does, it makes you look dead, but you are totally aware of everything. It stops all voluntary movement, and must decrease the brain's need for oxygen because the victim does not appear to be breathing. If anyone knows the name of that movie I would like to know. I'll have to see if I can download it. Very little media can hold my attention, but this movie did it.

On another related note, who all knows what "saved by the bell" really means ?

In the past, perhaps 100 years ago or something, they had to move some graves and they found evidence that some people had been buried alive. Thus came the practice of having a hole in the coffin and a string which would ring a bell up on the ground. The person would then be dug up, thus being saved by the bell.

And even more bizarre, shoot me in the head to make sure I am dead is interesting, but I actually have been shot in the head. I type pretty giood for being dead huh ?

The bullet got deflected by my bone structure and lodged itself in my neck, too close to the spinal cord to try to remove. I get a stiff neck once in a while but have otherwise recovered completely.

I thought I had been hit in the face with a bat or something when I came to, however, thinking back, if they had discovered me during the time I was unconcious, I might well have awoken in the morgue. After all there was a bullet hole about ½" under my left eye. What assumption would you make ? But then I was probably breathing so maybe I wouldn't have that problem.

They say your brain dies after a few minutes of not getting oxygen, but many Men have apnea, which is when they stop breathing while sleeping. I have literally woken up in the middle of the night and thought to myself "What is missing here ? ". I was not breathing. Of course I figured it out in time. It was like "Oh yeah, that". That was even stranger than getting shot. I literally forgot to breathe, and while with apnea this happens with the person sleeping, it is another story to be awake and need to take a second to figure out that you have to breathe. It was very strange.

So if anyone sees me laying in the street apparently dead, cut my head off, shooting doesn't always work, and I guess you can't really go by whether I am breathing or not.

I am 47 and have become intrigued with death. I no longer fear it, I consider it a new experience, but I certainly would not want to wake up in a coffin or a cremation oven. I want to be cremated, at least you are dead for sure, what do you get, a few milliseconds before it kills you ? In a coffin you suffocate. I prefer a quick death.

Strangely, with zombinol you do not suffocate. Somehow the brain's need for oxygen is diminished. I think there are certain states in which this happens, one of them is sleep I guess. I've heard that guys with apnea scare the living shit out of their Wives sometimes because they stop breathing for quite a while.

We all kniow life is a trip, maybe death is too.

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