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Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 5:19:09 AM   
Termyn8or


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I am not naming races, but there seems to be a debate among some races about who is a desirable immigrant and who is not.

Here is the situation in a nutshell. Some races FUCK TOO MUCH. It seems to be all they do. They get overpopulated, and if they get into your country they will eventually take over. You will be ruled by the tired, the poor, the huddled masses. The masses without the wherewithal to make it in their hometown, which my Father says is the most accurate indicator of failure.

Bring us you failures, your creeps, your criminals. Those looking for a handout. Those who want to rape and rob. Send us all your defectives, your mentally ill, whether you made them like that or not, we are the world's dump.

Send me your people who cannot feed themselves yet have 12 children. Empty your jails. Emtpy your psych wards. Send me your pregnant so they can latch onto the system and get freebies. Send me anyone looking for freebies.
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There was a time when there was no welfare, no nuthin of the sort, know what happened ? Immigrants came here for opportunity, not the opportunity to get a check, an opportunity to work hard be paid well and make their mark in life. For some reason they wanted to learn the language and customs and be productive members of society. For some reason they did not have more children than they could afford.

Do you realize that there are countries that offer to pay their Citizens to have children. Which countries are these ? Conversely which countries offer up people with no fucking idea of patriotism or anything and will just leave to get a welfare check ?

And, if the current trend continues, how long before people start emmigrating from here. Here can mean the US, England, whatever.

Montague Farnsworth wrote to the AFP :

Due to Britain's growing immigration problem, as many as 4,000 people a week are obtaining visas to live elsewhere, most of them skilled workers. In the last seven months alone applications for permits have risen by 80%.One immigration official says that common complaints are "loss of services, higher prices and the inability to make ends meet" adding that "Most people are very patriotic and don't want to leave. They're almost terrified about it. But they say they just have to. They can't see a future for themselves in this country. They want to get married and settle down and buy homes, but can't see it happening here."

Seems to me that it will all come out in the wash eventually. The powers that be will turn the whole world into a third world status, and then the skilled people, the people of value, the people who something to do other than fuck and make babies all day will leave. People with a work ethic, not enforced by "mob" rules, honest people who are willing to give to get, someday we will go somewhere.

And you know what, the rest will be left to go fuck themselves. Their economies will never get better, their social problems will only get worse, and we, if we start planing now, can have a near utopia.

This is not race specific, there are the elite, who need to be killed, there are the skilled, smart people who need a place away from the huddled masses. And then there are the huddled masses.

I mean you think these people couldn't feed themselves for the last 15 years but they got 12 fucking kids. Geez, stop fucking and go find a job ! Fuck you I got two jobs. And I haven't had a piece of ass in a while, and when I do I do not want kids. That would be irresponsible.

Yes, perhaps that sums it up, "Send me the people who are willing to take responsibility for their actions and debts".

I welcome immigrants like that, and I know a few. They are skilled, got here on an H1B visa, got jobs, learned English (not necessarily in that order) and pay taxes. They thrive here and both have alot nicer houses than me, and oh yes, they BOUGHT them. They established credit and no longer rent.

Jaroslav had to go to immigration periodically before he became a citizen. They asked him "How much money did you recieve from the government ?", he almost choked. Basically gave them a negative number because he was paying taxes from day one. He got off of whatever type of craft that brought him here from Poland, and never got a check until he got a job. He told me his first job was as a window washer.

At the time even, he was a skilled electronics technician, but he took what he could get because that is his ethic. Why he came here is a different story. In fact, since this is my thread (at the moment huh) I will indulge you in that information.

In Poland during the Solidarity movement Jaros ran "Radio Solidarity" He is skilled in electronic design as well, and built a transmitter. He had a few cohorts. One guy had the batteries, and another had a bunch of vacuum cleaner wands. Why ? you stick them together to make an antenna.

Back in the day of normal broadcast TV, he tuned the transitter to the sound frequency of a local channel, usually the most popular channel. When Lek Waleska couldn't buy air time, this guy stole it for him.

Toward the end their sessions had to be cut shorter as the authorities were closing in. He told me they had found a hillside from which to transmit, and it was effective, but they were triangulating. Some guys got caught, they caught the guy with the batteries but batteries are not illegal, they let him go. They caught the guy with the vacuum cleaner rods but those are also perfectly legal, so they let him go. Jaros was the fastest runner and had built the transmitter, and was never caught. If he had been caught, it would mean many years behind bars.

As it happened, the trail led to him anyway, and he wound up doing about seven months under suspicion. It was like two months here, three months there, but he was never convicted.

Later, he wanted to start a business in security. His applications for the proper licenses were all stalled, and it was no doubt because of their (correct) suspicion. That is when he decided to come to the US.

In personal matters I actually think the guy is an asshole. Brittany Spears is his hero, and he watches Lifetime on cable, the channel that is guaranteed to have the most crying possible. But as a Man, I have to give respect where it is due.

One day at work, he produced a Polish newspaper and said "Look, that is my transmitter". It was his brother holding it in a picture, I couldn't read the text, but Jaros ezplained that it was no longer an issue. The latest I've heard now is that his brother has now immigrated here and they started a business.

Jaros pays taxes on probably about $50,000 a year and has two kids. That is responsible. One time he was giving me a ride home from work and we were talking, it came round to "you must work" with his accent, I replied "yes".

So, what kind of immigrants do you want ?

T
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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 5:54:05 AM   
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I would be happy with legal ones.

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 6:17:12 AM   
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those who come to work and those genuinely fleeing persecution - on the understanding that this is the first place of refuge as per the UN accord on refugees. How the UK falls into that classification when the vast majority of refugees come via the rest of the EU is mysterious of course.

anyhow I intend to emigrate asap - 2018 being asap. This country is buggered in both figurative and literal senses.

What truly annoys me though, is that we cannot have a sensible debate on immigration without some idiot calling racism. This isnt about race or any such thing - its about resources, and we're already in trouble there. We cant afford any more dependent residents when those working to provide have such poor access to the resources they pay for, for the dependents.

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 7:20:09 AM   
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Ellen you glanced off the point.

I think you are with me here, but I name no names or races to remain politically acceptable.

I am carefully avoiding race except to say that some races fuck too much, or fuck unprotected too much. The party never ends. The gangbang goes on forever it seems until childbirth, and then continues minutes later.

Let me point out the point real clear for everybody to see. One type of people makes $50,000 a year, pays taxes and has two kids. Another type of people make nothing, live off a government check and have five kids.

Do you get my point ?

Meantime the guy working making the $50,000 has to pay more taxes to subsidize those burdens to society. Human faith and hope being near eternal, we want to see them all achieve, but they won't. Pregnant by 13, on the dole. It's not just a life cycle, it is multigenerational. It goes on and forever gets bigger, because we pay the taxes, they can afford to have kids.

There is no work ethic, no money ethic, no nuthin. Just sex, oh she's pregnant again ? OK.

And that's why some countries are so full of fucking useless people that they need to go to a country that can support them better. I think people should be forced to live in the shit they create. You don't like it there, change it there, don't come here asking for a handout. That's deplorable. If you are not patriotic enough to even try, I would rather disclude you from my sphere of influence. That is my choice. That is my prejudice. That is indeed the piece of bigotry I have. I have no use for useless people and there are damn well too many of them across the globe. Everywhere, and I tell you this, my estimation of useless people starts with the rich politicians and such.

People, even illegal immigrants are not the problem, the rich are the problem. All over the world. And the thing is, everything costs us, not them.(that's why they are rich)

Maybe one day useful people will get together. Until then we got what we got.

T

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 8:03:43 AM   
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Term.....

I went to a lecture last spring by a pair of Harvard PhD's that have been studying the problem for 10 years. Mountains of evidence and they're about ready to publish. The gist is: we're in the middle of the most aggressive mass migration in the history of man. More than 200 million people are moving about the world to try to better their situations, and it won't stop for anothr 15-20 years. Will the wealthy have to give it up? I hope someone grows the balls to take it away from the multinational corporations and spread it about in education, housing and health areas.

There are plenty of freeloaders everywhere....many born and raised in their home countries. TG welfare in the US no longer pays for multiple offspring! Do the best you can.

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 8:47:37 AM   
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I agree...I would like legal ones

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 8:51:01 AM   
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there are people from all races who fuck too much...without protection...just go down to walmart on saturday afternoon to see evidence...white, black, hispanic...you have a signifigant racial population in your area? you will have a "lower end of the gene pool" who have unnecessarily reproduced in mass quantities....its not specific to race, region, nationality, religion or anythng else.....my caucasian cousin is dating a caucasian girl, who at 20-something has 7 children and is pregnant with her 8th because she is a "breeder" ....i think its a religious purpose...what religion, i don't know...but...yea...she can't support them....she's not been not pregnant long enough to hold a job...and she's dating my cousin, not married to him, he's not the father of any of them....you do the math....do you get my point...its not exclusive to any one group...
so yes, right now we have an influx of hispanic people....a century and a half or so ago we had an influx of irish people....was that the downfall of american society? ok so there are more hispanic people in the world than irish people...but we also have more resources 150 years later than we did then....we can freaking deal...if we pull our heads out of our asses...i am not advocating illegal immigration by any means, but i don't want to lock down the borders and become a prison either....cause if people can't get in...it becomes awful hard to get out too....

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/22/2007 9:32:49 AM   
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just to add; there are likely a half million non white immigrants in the UK whom, were they removed today would have no effect except to make the place better for everyone else.

but, I'm sure there are likely up to five million white natives for whom the same could be said.

Seems to be a 10% thing. Strangely, 90% of all crime is apparently committed by the same 10% of the population - is there a relationship there?

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RE: Immigration, emmigration - 9/24/2007 6:06:13 PM   
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I can't point the racial finger here.

In my neighborhood there is a Black family. I do not see a whole bunch of kids. Their house is nicer than mine, which doesn't matter much, but it has some bearing. Decent cars OCCASIONALLY pull in and out.

The Puerto Rican family, well one of them has a loud muffler on their car. I mean it is intentionally loud. But I remember when I was 15-17 driving around in a bigblock Olds with Thrush mufflers, glass packs. This car was very loud, and fast as well.

I know a White family, They had six kids but were such slobs their house burned to the ground and one died. When I was young and my Parents went to visit them, I refused to go in because I could not stand the smell. Now the kids are pushing 40 and none of them work steadily, and they still suck at the teat of their Father who at the moment still has the resources to support them. I doubt ½ of them can read at all. None have any skills. No wait, one of them learned how to do tatoos in prison.

Even me. I have skills but don't use them as much as I should. I am also a slob. Some may think me a lowlife because of this. Think on if you want. But I have skills, so I can pay to replace the carpet, and even for people to clean for me. And I conciously decided not to have children. So where do I stand ?

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