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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 7:33:43 PM   
chellekitty


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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 7:38:10 PM   
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silly, set me up with a litter box between my legs....


Tsks tsk-they are going to be saying we aren't "twue" any minute now. This is SUCH a lackluster performance-it will never DO.

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 7:47:44 PM   
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People are entities in constant flux. I get a bit pissy when folks seem to think they can be classified as constants-that's just irrational. And ignores the reality of humanity.



well.... I was Male when I was born... me thinks I will be Male when I die... that is pretty constant I think......

oh yeah... when I was born... I was alive ... and you know what... I am still alive after all these years... hell there is another constant.

mmmmmm well taxes seem to be a constant thing too...........

Yup it's all just irrational stuff...

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 7:51:28 PM   
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well.... I was Male when I was born... me thinks I will be Male when I die... that is pretty constant I think......

oh yeah... when I was born... I was alive ... and you know what... I am still alive after all these years... hell there is another constant.

mmmmmm well taxes seem to be a constant thing too...........

Yup it's all just irrational stuff...


Word.

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 7:57:28 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

People are entities in constant flux. I get a bit pissy when folks seem to think they can be classified as constants-that's just irrational. And ignores the reality of humanity.



well.... I was Male when I was born... me thinks I will be Male when I die... that is pretty constant I think......

oh yeah... when I was born... I was alive ... and you know what... I am still alive after all these years... hell there is another constant.

mmmmmm well taxes seem to be a constant thing too...........

Yup it's all just irrational stuff...


Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:02:11 PM   
KnightofMists


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Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?


YUP.... I have a sweet and adorable disposition now  just like I did when I was born! 

oh yeah.... I was even well-hung then as I am now too.... another constant   

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:04:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

People are entities in constant flux. I get a bit pissy when folks seem to think they can be classified as constants-that's just irrational. And ignores the reality of humanity.



well.... I was Male when I was born... me thinks I will be Male when I die... that is pretty constant I think......

oh yeah... when I was born... I was alive ... and you know what... I am still alive after all these years... hell there is another constant.

mmmmmm well taxes seem to be a constant thing too...........

Yup it's all just irrational stuff...


Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?


Why don't you ask a gay person how long he or she has been gay, and whether this gayness is in a state of flux...are they gayer some days than others...

I am submissive and masochistic, and have been since I before I was even sexually aware. Although I have grown in my awareness of my sexual orientation, and the expressions of it have changed, the orientation in and of itself has not changed, and is definitely not in a state of flux.

Some parts of us are changeable; some are not. Believe me. I tried to change my sexual orientation for a long time, because I detested it. Been there, done that. It doesn't work. We are who we are. Some people take longer than others to discover who they are, but in general, I think those of us who lean strongly in one direction or another always have, and always will.

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:05:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?


YUP.... I have a sweet and adorable disposition now  just like I did when I was born! 


Now I am questioning who I am getting my asshole training from

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:10:16 PM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		so...i know i think too much...but i was wondering...if you have a sex change....and you change your mind after like 10 or 20 years....(cause you have to be pretty sure with all that counceling....) but are you shit outa luck....or can they change you back...obviously not back to original....but....they can go both ways so.........

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:17:44 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?


YUP.... I have a sweet and adorable disposition now  just like I did when I was born! 

oh yeah.... I was even well-hung then as I am now too.... another constant   


LOL..........

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/23/2007 8:20:16 PM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: HollyBlue


quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

People are entities in constant flux. I get a bit pissy when folks seem to think they can be classified as constants-that's just irrational. And ignores the reality of humanity.



well.... I was Male when I was born... me thinks I will be Male when I die... that is pretty constant I think......

oh yeah... when I was born... I was alive ... and you know what... I am still alive after all these years... hell there is another constant.

mmmmmm well taxes seem to be a constant thing too...........

Yup it's all just irrational stuff...


Hmm, so your personality now is the same as when you were born?


Why don't you ask a gay person how long he or she has been gay, and whether this gayness is in a state of flux...are they gayer some days than others...

I am submissive and masochistic, and have been since I before I was even sexually aware. Although I have grown in my awareness of my sexual orientation, and the expressions of it have changed, the orientation in and of itself has not changed, and is definitely not in a state of flux.

Some parts of us are changeable; some are not. Believe me. I tried to change my sexual orientation for a long time, because I detested it. Been there, done that. It doesn't work. We are who we are. Some people take longer than others to discover who they are, but in general, I think those of us who lean strongly in one direction or another always have, and always will.


Some of our programming has to be overcome to reach the natural state. Others have to be learned as a coping method to allow it. Either represents change.

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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/24/2007 5:53:07 PM   
efficaceous


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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/24/2007 6:17:24 PM   
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RE: Bottom vs submissive - 9/24/2007 7:04:13 PM   
RRafe


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lol @ the mental image of a referee all in black in white watching me. too funny


TWEEETT!!!!!!!!
20 minutes in the cage for using sub, when you should have said slave!

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