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Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 7:42:47 AM

breatheasone

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Would being bound spread eagle against a wall or door way help keep my knees from buckling during a beating? Its irritating to have to pause and right myself so Master can continue.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 8:58:17 AM

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Yes, I would highly recommend using suspension cuffs which are secured to a firmly seated eyebolt driven squarely into a stud. If you plan on relying o a door, that can turn into an iffy proposition depending on a lot of factors. Rope can be used but if not done properly can result in serious injury if your full weight is applied to the restraints. Test any rig/set you plan on using prior to a session of course. There are several other possible solutions as well including temporary frames that can be dismantled and put away when you are done using them.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:07:48 AM

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Would being bound spread eagle against a wall or door way help keep my knees from buckling during a beating? Its irritating to have to pause and right myself so Master can continue.

Bad idea. It's better if you are bent over or horizontal.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:46:47 AM

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yes but i am with rrafe, bend over something, or get on all fours, bad knees suck, i would do what you can to minmise the stress.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:48:53 AM

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why would you do that? I enjoy watching my Sub's knees buckle when its too much. It let's me know I am making her happy. Then you give her some words of encouragment, and beat her some more.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:50:54 AM

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why would you do that? I enjoy watching my Sub's knees buckle when its too much. It let's me know I am making her happy. Then you give her some words of encouragment, and beat her some more.

It puts too much strain on the wrists. I'm a bondage Top-and I practice safety before pleasure-always. The vast majority of serious injuries with bdsm come from improper and unsafe bondage technique.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:53:28 AM

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wait wait wait.... no matter what, your knees will buckles.....even with little pressure on them if you are buckling because you are limpid. If you are suspended by wrist cuffs (of any kind) you will then buckle and the pressure will pull at your hips, shoulders and wrists if he can't reposition you quickly enough. Not cool.

sounds to me like you need to be bound and lying flat on a bed.....

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:56:54 AM

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Build a version of a body harness that you can han from the frame, (Thus body weight is not supportd by your rotator cuff)
Knees can't bucle if there is no weight on them, LOL So look at industrial fall arrest harnesses and modify to work for you.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 9:57:31 AM

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Support is critical during heavy scenes. The top MUST be able to get the bottom out of the bonds quickly and safely if something goes wrong.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 12:06:47 PM

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If you do get bound to stay straight up, be careful not to lock your knees. Because prolonged periods standing with locked knees can cause you to faint, and that's a bad idea.

I'm with the others who say you should be tied to a bench or something.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 12:53:58 PM

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If you use a ceiling hook and harness then when your knees buckle you wont go anywhere. The rope harness can be made to support you from the back between the shoulder blades then use a spreader bar for the ankles attached to vertical posts or for that matter it can be cinder blocks laid out on the floor. That way you are not going anywhere. You can also take a long down and put it behind your shoulder blades with arms along the dowel however you cant actually use the dowel to support your weight. In that way you are not really suspended but then you can fall. Your just right out there and available. Really thick dildoes held into place with a rope going through it can be interesting as well because it can be made to be pulled up down and around as you struggle against the ropes. :)

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 12:54:36 PM

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Thanks...i hadn't thought about a bench....thats a good idea... and what submissivelion said is already what my Master does...I must admit i LOVE that part.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 2:51:20 PM

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I agree with those who say "bend over" or "all fours". I have terrible knees , but I found that a V-shaped bench with padding in the middle, knees, and elbows was perfect. I was bound so I couldn't move too much. It was heavenly to just relax and fall happily into sub-space. I was able to play a *lot* longer being in this position.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 4:08:45 PM

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if you like playing standing up, which i do because it allows my muscles to be the prominent thing to be beat on not my bones (think about it...any time you bend over you bring a bone closer to the skin - hips brings hips, back brings spine and shoulder blades)....take a cue from performers who are standing in one place for a long time - like choir singers....put one foot slightly in front of the other, like half a step, maybe 2 to 4 inches, its forces you not to lock your knees...
where your arms are attached or whether they are attached is up to you and your partner...if you like/want/need them attached but can't have them above your head for a long time and you already have high up attachment points and you don't want more holes in you wall or you just want something that is adjustable, create attachment points via chains that allow you to have them at a comfortable angle...

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 4:19:10 PM

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quote:

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if you like playing standing up, which i do because it allows my muscles to be the prominent thing to be beat on not my bones (think about it...any time you bend over you bring a bone closer to the skin - hips brings hips, back brings spine and shoulder blades)....take a cue from performers who are standing in one place for a long time - like choir singers....put one foot slightly in front of the other, like half a step, maybe 2 to 4 inches, its forces you not to lock your knees...
where your arms are attached or whether they are attached is up to you and your partner...if you like/want/need them attached but can't have them above your head for a long time and you already have high up attachment points and you don't want more holes in you wall or you just want something that is adjustable, create attachment points via chains that allow you to have them at a comfortable angle...

The solution to the problem of bones getting beaten would be "a competent and skillful top."

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 4:54:57 PM

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oi...it doesn't matter how competent and skillful a top is, they cannot change basic anatomy and physiology

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 4:58:54 PM

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oi...it doesn't matter how competent and skillful a top is, they cannot change basic anatomy and physiology

They can sure as hell get thier targeting accurate enough to avoid doing harm.

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 5:50:39 PM

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Breatheasone,
I know during long beating sessions with Master many times my knees went weak, even when on all fours supported by the bed, my knees and arms would start to shake and i would basically be limp and useless to hold myself up as the tears stained the bed.
Master found a cure to that. What he does is he lies me belly down on the bed. Binds me out in a cross like fashion but face down. So my body forms a T with arms tied to the sides of the bed, and my legs are bound together side to side stretched downward toward the foot of the bed and tied to the base.

What this does is create a perfect sybolic crucifix scene with causing little or no pain to knees arms ect...he will even place a pillow either under the chin to support head up or leave head side ways.
Because my legs are closed there is no access, (this is for punishment not pleasure)My back, ass, arms, legs are all exposed for his beatings...

This is a great tool, and if you want to mix usage into it, on the belly with legs spread pillow beneath lower abdomen to thrust the pelvis up now back, arms legs, pussy ass, everything is exposed.

Good luck Breath, please do try this it really works...
with love and kink,
melanie

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RE: Bondage question.... - 9/25/2007 5:54:56 PM

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This is a great tool, and if you want to mix usage into it, on the belly with legs spread pillow beneath lower abdomen to thrust the pelvis up now back, arms legs, pussy ass, everything is exposed.

This sounds hot....Something occured to me...my Master may enjoy seeing the times one of His lashes will get me just right, and cause my knees to buckle...I suppose I should ask Him.

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