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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:40:19 PM

Sweetlovingpain

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How about simply "The world is full of people, each one of them unique and therefore 'special'. The lucky ones are kinky".

This is one of the greatest lies perpetuated through the ages... We are not all special. We are not all interesting. We are far from unique. Genetically, we're about the same. Hang out with some guys from marketing for an hour and you realize that for millions of humans, the best we can hope for in terms of originality is to buy Coke instead of Pepsi, or have a Zune instead of a Ipod. You can be a different combination of very similar tastes and choices.

I would even contend that all the faux originality in the world is far more of a drag than the unoriginality.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:43:04 PM

amelliagrace

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sweetlovingpain

Yes, I do feel better now, thank you for asking.
Glad to hear it.

Speaking of my stereotypes and prejudices, I have to say, the self-absorbed primadonnas who took this as an opportunity for bluster are a nice break from the petty barbs I expected. Thanks for that.

You are most welcome. We subbies aim to please.

So we're all clear here, I'm fine with myself, even when I'm inconsistent. Some fake "doms" should ponder that.

Speaking of real and fake dominants:
How could a real one ever settle for a mindless twit of a submissive with no backbone, no brain, who hasn't a clue what she's looking for in life? Seems to me that not only would a submissive like that drive a dominant nuts, but the potential for mega time wasting in attempting a relationship would be huge.
I can't speak for anyone else, but my knee bends quite well, but to damn few. If a dominant isn't interested in anything but the drill of "Me Dom, you sub, kneel", then that dominant would be too shallow, and too weak, for me to trust holding my leash. There is no double standard for me here. If a dominant doens't know what he's looking for, then trying to submit to him would be a nightmare. If he doesn't have his own opinions and limits, likes and dislikes, then how could I have any inkling wether or not there was enough mutuality to warrent the effort and time to explore that possibility?

The process of finding compatible partners isn't always easy, regardless of whether you're Dominant or submissive.

Being single an be a very good think, sometimes, as can being alone. I actually LIKE my own company, and question the good sense of those who don't enjoy my company WEG. WEG, by the way, means Wicked Evil Grin.

-grace

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:43:43 PM

EvilGenie

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

29 years with yourself does not count as a D/s or M/s relationship....sorry....

Touche,,,,indeed! Now I am truly laughing too heartily with my last modicum of decency though my genius still intact.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:43:54 PM

catize

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sweetlovingpain

Yes, I do feel better now, thank you for asking.

Speaking of my stereotypes and prejudices, I have to say, the self-absorbed primadonnas who took this as an opportunity for bluster are a nice break from the petty barbs I expected. Thanks for that.

Especially this one, which I'm sure the author found quite cathartic, witty and profound when she typed it:

"Hmmmmmmmmmm, you might want to look at your reflection in a mirror and ask that question out loud."

I can only guess she showed this to the greasy guy who beats her who swept back his mullet and yelled "OH! BUUURN!" I'm not saying it really happened that way, but it pleases me to think so.

So we're all clear here, I'm fine with myself, even when I'm inconsistent. Some fake "doms" should ponder that.

~just laughs~
Sorry to spoil your little break from reality but I have no fucking clue what a mullet is.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:44:24 PM

chellekitty

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fast reply to the Original Poster....

oh oh oh....i just had a duh moment...i thought i would share some of my oh so experienced wisdom with you

1) you collarme safe gesture is clicking the red x at the top of this window
2) to "leave the party"....turn off your computer
3) to "leave the scene" ....get rid of your computer in whatever manner you feel appropriate
4) if you can't appreciate the ribbing because you're bitching about bitching....ummm fucking don't bitch...
5) if none of this makes sense look up the colloquial definition of insanity...you might have to look up the definition of colloquial first though....

brought to you by the sub who's not your sub and therefore does not submit to you and incase you haven't gotten this: i am your equal...

chelle

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:47:11 PM

MissMagnolia

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We'e had lots of people bitching about others and the OP obviously hasn't been around the boards a lot, so wouldn't know, so blathering on about how many times we've seen it isn't going to help. Sheesh, give the man a break.

OP, believe it or not, we are ALL in agreement with you. We've ALL felt and said exactly the same as you and it's right across the board. Dom/mes bitching about slaves/subs/other Dom/mes/other slaves/subs and all the other combinations you can think of.

Saying it in the forum pretty much guarantees that you'll be pounced on by everyone who has a spare three minutes and an opinion. In fact, it seems to draw the exact opposite of what you actually wanted, which I assume was simple recognition of your thoughts and feelings. Instead of everyone just saying "Yeah, it sux, but that's life", you'll get more personal attacks and bitching than you could ever hope to find.

So say BLAH and ppffttt and ignore it.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:47:14 PM

chellekitty

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quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

~just laughs~
Sorry to spoil your little break from reality but I have no fucking clue what a mullet is.

oh its a haircut thats quite scary...google it...they have websites devoted to the different styles of mullets...fun for mindless entertainment...the things we learn by watching My Name is Earl......

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:48:15 PM

amelliagrace

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sweetlovingpain

This is the one that finally put me over the edge. The accompanying blog then goes into detail about... not wanting guys older than 38. And I ask myself... why would any person worth a shit ever respond positively to this?

***i do have a picture WITH my head***
**When im ready i will send it**
**Yes my location moves as i am a travel nurse so when my job location moves so do i lol this will change as soon as i find my owner**
**No One Over 38 Please I will not reply**
**No One Over 38 Please I will not reply**
**No One Over 38 Please I will not reply**
**No One Over 38 Please I will not reply**
is that clear enough guys over 38

Yeah, that one is pretty bad. Spent an hour reading through the Dominant profiles lately? Try it. You might find it to be equally awful.

-grace

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:48:49 PM

Sweetlovingpain

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Ok out of all this... and i've read it a few times to try to get an idea of your post. For the most part... it was a typical rant. No problem there, there's been a few on here to say the least. But this one ....and first comment of what bugs you....

How can you seriously not care what a slave wants or doesn't want if you are seeking to have any relationship with said slave? There's NO FUN if you do not care from the get go. From the get go if you do not care... why should said slave care anymore than you? I'm slightly interested on how you figure not caring is fun at all, let alone from the get go.

Even if it does matter, they're slaves! It certainly shouldn't be the number one priority. How can you possibly reconcile the notion of being a slave with the notion of wanting your desires to take priority? That's not slavery -- that's being in charge. The first thing that a slave should be concerned with is what their better wants.

The first thing out of my barber's mouth is "What can I do for you today?" and he's only expecting a few dollars.

And let's be clear: If a dom or domme who is worth a shit -- as in, with a life, a real career, some money and some goals -- takes the time to whack a slave on the ass, that's doing the slave a favor. When a dom takes time out of his or her much more important life to fulfill some masochist's pain fetish, or correct the slave, or help it get a grip on life, or reward it, it's not the master that gets anything out of the deal. That's why the correct response is "thank you."

When a slave wants something, a slave should bring that up when it has earned it. And then, if it hasn't, and all it gets is tossed back in the corner, it should politely thank its master and learn from the experience.

You should not send a slave an introduction and receive a shopping list in return.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:49:14 PM

truesub4u

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quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

fast reply to the Original Poster....

brought to you by the sub who's not your sub and therefore does not submit to you and incase you haven't gotten this: i am your equal...

chelle

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:52:35 PM

EvilGenie

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Right now I need to google Girona Spain as I am off to live there for two years before returning to Morocco, where I once lived, for good. Sorry to leave the party. I must say though that when living in the UK during the recent past, the mullet is still in popularity there and yes it is a scary business!

bw Aall, ttyl n ty (LMAO)

< Message edited by EvilGenie -- 9/26/2007 8:53:33 PM >

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:55:58 PM

sambamanslilgirl

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my ...my ...aren't we showing our uber domly colours tonight. am i suppose to cower on my knees at your words? HA! you're just one of many "doms" who bitch, moan and complain around here these days. so you're no one special to me and your following statements bug the heck out of me.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sweetlovingpain

1. "Slaves" who swing the conversation immediately to what they expect. You're a slave. Half the fun is me not caring what you want, or holding it over your head.

someone forgot to pick up his 2007 copy of the CM Dominant Handbook to read page 1 paragraph 1 - "...submissives/slaves who do not belong to you are not yours to command ...they hold such power until exchange upon mutual agreement..." in other words, mr "dom", we have the right to tell you what we expect out of a relationship. if you don't care about what we want, we certainly won't give a damn about caring for your needs. see - relationship is a two way give-take street. it's that attitude like yours in which you would find yourself on my block list in a heartbeat.

quote:

2. People without the critical thinking abilities to parse language, humor, sarcasm, etc... If you can't take a joke, don't go fuck yourself. Go kill yourself.

yeah you're really showing your true colours here ...however you first. i'll merely stand here and watch you demonstrate how it twuely suppose to be done.

quote:

3. peoplewho Type stuf like this n write back 2 e-mails with "ty" or "LOL"... L2engrish.

the same goes for "doms" who cannot constructed a descent pair of sentences other than "kneel bitch and suck my cock"

quote:

4. Subs, slaves, any of 'em really, who over (wasted) time amount to be simple freeloaders who'll do anything for a roof over their heads. Get on welfare, your asses will sting less.

like there aren't freeloading "doms" either

quote:

5. Vanilla chicks who flick their beans to BDSM porn until they decide to make a profile here and turn out to be, ouch, woefully vanilla. Go lie to some vanilla dude until he buys into it and leave the rest of us alone.

someone's forgetting another golden rule around here - not every aspect of BDSM is for everyone

i hope this was a helpful educational lesson for ya

< Message edited by sambamanslilgirl -- 9/26/2007 8:56:40 PM >

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:56:02 PM

amelliagrace

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

We'e had lots of people bitching about others and the OP obviously hasn't been around the boards a lot, so wouldn't know, so blathering on about how many times we've seen it isn't going to help. Sheesh, give the man a break.

OP, believe it or not, we are ALL in agreement with you. We've ALL felt and said exactly the same as you and it's right across the board. Dom/mes bitching about slaves/subs/other Dom/mes/other slaves/subs and all the other combinations you can think of.

Saying it in the forum pretty much guarantees that you'll be pounced on by everyone who has a spare three minutes and an opinion. In fact, it seems to draw the exact opposite of what you actually wanted, which I assume was simple recognition of your thoughts and feelings. Instead of everyone just saying "Yeah, it sux, but that's life", you'll get more personal attacks and bitching than you could ever hope to find.

Maybe we'd all benefit from a "Bitch Here" thread? Everyone needs to vent now and then, but consolidation might not be a bad idea. Then again, having participated in many msg board and chat forums, from lifestyle to political to business, this issue seems to be universal to all of them. Those new to a forum who start a thread such as this one, and then get what they get seems to be a right of passage, across all forum styles.

Your point about cutting the guy some slack is well taken, however. Thank you.

-grace

So say BLAH and ppffttt and ignore it.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:57:22 PM

truesub4u

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I think I would respected your response more if you hadn't of refered to the slave as an IT.. when I believe it should of been THEY. Thank you for showing this one you're just another one of those it's definately all about me type doms... now I can safely go back to being an all about me sub and be happy about it.

The key words there being .... it's NOT all about anyone.. it's about everyone. You can seriously think you can find a slave that will right off the bat... no never mind.. you would expect that... and someone ..someday...will probably be exactly what you're expecting a slave to be right from the start. Good luck with that too... I think you're gonna need it.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:57:53 PM

Sweetlovingpain

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someone forgot to pick up his 2007 copy of the CM Dominant Handbook to read page 1 paragraph 1 - "...submissives/slaves who do not belong to you are not yours to command ...they hold such power until exchange upon mutual agreement..." in other words, mr "dom", we have the right to tell you what we expect out of a relationship. if you don't care about what we want, we certainly won't give a damn about caring for your needs. see - relationship is a two way give-take street. it's that attitude like yours in which you would find yourself on my block list in a heartbeat.

Right, because, you know, I just message people and start giving them commands. You presume much and think little.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 8:59:12 PM

Sweetlovingpain

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I think I would respected your response more if you hadn't of refered to the slave as an IT.. when I believe it should of been THEY. Thank you for showing this one you're just another one of those it's definately all about me type doms... now I can safely go back to being an all about me sub and be happy about it.

I am an all-about-me type dom. Why wouldn't I be? I'm excellent.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 9:05:58 PM

truesub4u

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ORIGINAL: Sweetlovingpain

I am an all-about-me type dom. Why wouldn't I be? I'm excellent.

Yeah I can tell, you just told someone to fuck off. Let alone got personal trying to insult and name calling. CM does have rules against that. I would tread more lightly on that thin ice. You're about to fall thru.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 9:06:01 PM

sambamanslilgirl

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i don't have to presume much, "dom", and it seems i know more than you assume. you're just one of many who cannot handle a submissive - NOT slave - like me. i eat men like you for breakfast, lunch, snack and dinner.

care to have your domly manhood challenged?

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 9:06:41 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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"flick their bean" wow I've never actually heard it referred to like that, I think domiguy has been getting lazy around here lately.

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RE: What Subs Don't Want - 9/26/2007 9:09:49 PM

catize

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quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

~just laughs~
Sorry to spoil your little break from reality but I have no fucking clue what a mullet is.

oh its a haircut thats quite scary...google it...they have websites devoted to the different styles of mullets...fun for mindless entertainment...the things we learn by watching My Name is Earl......

YIKES!
I will soon add to my profile “I FROWN at mullets.” Of course expressing that thought will endanger my submissive status, but I’m sure I can deal with it.

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