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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/28/2007 10:52:55 AM   
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Get tested, and let the other person know the results. Then block them from all contact.


I would get tested for my own peace of mind but there is no way I would feel obligated to tell the ex-s what those results are. It's none of her business if I get tested or not or what those results might be. Why play her game?

Just my thoughts..........

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/28/2007 1:34:20 PM   
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Think of the legal liability for not telling someone. By telling them your results, you can thereby cut all ties to them cleanly, with no worries about future lawsuits.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/28/2007 3:02:23 PM   
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if this happened to me, i would disregard the feelings of the "troublemaker" slave and tell master everything.  STDs is nothing to play with - could be a matter of life or death ...and all parties should be told to get tested.

then again - that's me and my opinion ...whatever you decide is up to you


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/28/2007 3:05:02 PM   
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i have some serious concerns about your Master.  i am hoping He knows little of what is actually happening.  your health and safety should come first and if He is choosing to allow this wacko to interfere and put your health and safety in danger then it's time for your to re-evaluate your situation.  If He is being duped by this wacko, for me it would raise some serious doubts about His ability to make decisions involving myself...but that's just me.

If your Master is unable to have your health and safety as a number one concern then speak to Him respectfully and submissively.  If He has still not opened His eyes then perhaps it is time to move on. 

On a side note...it's always a good idea to have an STD exam before beginning a new relationship and after....people do things everyday that we wouldn't think they are capable of...and it's your health and the health of your next partner.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/28/2007 4:32:20 PM   
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Dear girlygurl, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
It would not hurt to be tested for STD's and the like.  It would be a peace of mind that it would be a factual find instead of a part of the puppet on a string which the ex-slave manipulates everybody with. 
 
I agree with posts saying that STDs are no laughing matter and serious enough to check on your own anyway, especially when so many STDs are transmitted and or carried with few symptoms.
If and when the health department asks about the need for one--it can be pointed back to the ex-slave who felt something was wrong but hasn't gotten tested for one reason or another--to be sure --test for your peace of mind.  Prank or not--its still a good idea, especially with the height of STD transmissions these days.
 
Testing is not an admission of guilt and or being 'loose' in the sheets--however, past partners in those sheets might have had sexually transmitted issues. Men can carry and not show signs so do women, as some STD's hitch a ride and thrive.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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Thank you LadyHugs.  I agree, testing is not an admission of guilt, if anything, it's showing one is responsible.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/29/2007 8:41:01 AM   
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  Time passes…. sub asks slave “did you get the results back from your test?” slave responds, “have you been tested yet?” again, sub asked, “did you get the results back from your test?” and again slave says, “have you been tested yet?”  sub communicates the obvious game slave is playing (cause she’s pissed at ex-Master) and sub removes herself from said game.  slave proceeds to communicate in so many words that she is not going to tell ex-Master or sub what her test results are. AND (with a little prodding) slave fesses up that she’s playing ex-Master and this “getting tested” crap is all a game! 


mmmmmmmm sub should of said... "yes tested postive".... and then ask..."did you get the results back from your test?"


me thinks slave would of been running to get test *w*


Oh ye of most devious mindset!


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/29/2007 9:03:39 AM   
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Of course there’s lots of detail that’s been left out, as they are sure to bore you all.  Bottom line….. slave is contacting ex-Master again.  She’s depressed, needs a friend??? Who knows…. Question.  Where does one draw the line when playing the part of a concerned friend?  Should the sub keep her mouth shut and not saying anything to Master of her feelings of this “trouble maker” ex-slave? 


I think sub needs to look at herself in the mirror and decide what kind of relationship she wants. If it is lots of drama and a potential poisonous relationship, then don't bother listening to ALL of the great advice you have been given. If on the other hand......


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 9/29/2007 6:13:53 PM   
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I think sub needs to look at herself in the mirror and decide what kind of relationship she wants. If it is lots of drama and a potential poisonous relationship, then don't bother listening to ALL of the great advice you have been given. If on the other hand......



ehlovindom... now why wouldn't I listen to all of the great advise I've been given?  For the record, the toxic relationship/friendship is gone gone gone!    Thank you for taking the time to respond to the post.  Have a wonderful weekend!

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 12:39:28 AM   
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hi...i just found this thread & decided to post my side of this, as i am the former slave in question...after the Master released me for reasons more complicated than girlygurl knows of, after which he asked my forgiveness & asked me to come back to him, i decided on my own to get tested for every known STD, since he played with both of us & several others without condoms--something i will not tolerate again in my life...i paid for these tests on my own, as i have no insurance to cover it...as soon as i discovered that i had tested positive for a vaginal bacterial infection, i told both the sub & the former Master, who was the only one i was ever with without protection & suggested that they each get tested on their own...i was told by the sub that i was trying to control their behavior in telling them both to get tested...the Master told me how sorry he was that i had the infection & said that he would get tested...i actually had some concerns about either of them carrying around the bug that i had...i received no other positive results...& i gave her that information also...i also admitted to my not being willing to tell either of them for a few hours about the other negative results & apologized several times to her...i have now been labeled a game player by this sub...hmmmmmmmm......i don't plan on returning to either of them, but we all live in the same town & it's a little silly to try to avoid each other, since our social paths cross...the former Master is my friend & has said that he will always be that to me...there are times when we will talk, as friends.......

i've often thought & said that in these types of threads, there is always more to it than just what the OP tells...i am basically a good & kind person as are all the people mentioned in this thread, including the OP...when emotions become involved, however, sometimes reason flies out the window...& there are always 2 sides to something like this & the truth is probably somewhere in between 


< Message edited by mistyeyze -- 10/8/2007 1:34:33 AM >


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 5:26:37 AM   
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Once the issue of STDs has been tabled, get it cleared up forget ex-slave, do it for your own piece of mine. Once that's done, put everything you know about what happened on the table, and let your Master decide what hes going to do. Honesty and openness are critical to D/s relationships.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 7:39:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

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I think sub needs to look at herself in the mirror and decide what kind of relationship she wants. If it is lots of drama and a potential poisonous relationship, then don't bother listening to ALL of the great advice you have been given. If on the other hand......



ehlovindom... now why wouldn't I listen to all of the great advise I've been given?  For the record, the toxic relationship/friendship is gone gone gone!    Thank you for taking the time to respond to the post.  Have a wonderful weekend!


Well then, you decided to listen to the "other hand". Good for you. Hope you had a wonderful weekend!


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 9:47:20 AM   
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The ex claiming there is some imaginary or non imaginary disease screams 'can you still taste me on his dick??'

Get the test, both of you. no need for any further contact.

That washes her off his dick forever.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 9:53:29 AM   
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Good lord, just ignore the twit and be done with it.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 3:09:33 PM   
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hi...i just found this thread & decided to post my side of this, as i am the former slave in question...after the Master released me for reasons more complicated than girlygurl knows of, after which he asked my forgiveness & asked me to come back to him, i decided on my own to get tested for every known STD, since he played with both of us & several others without condoms--something i will not tolerate again in my life...i paid for these tests on my own, as i have no insurance to cover it...as soon as i discovered that i had tested positive for a vaginal bacterial infection, i told both the sub & the former Master, who was the only one i was ever with without protection & suggested that they each get tested on their own...i was told by the sub that i was trying to control their behavior in telling them both to get tested...the Master told me how sorry he was that i had the infection & said that he would get tested...i actually had some concerns about either of them carrying around the bug that i had...i received no other positive results...& i gave her that information also...i also admitted to my not being willing to tell either of them for a few hours about the other negative results & apologized several times to her...i have now been labeled a game player by this sub...hmmmmmmmm......i don't plan on returning to either of them, but we all live in the same town & it's a little silly to try to avoid each other, since our social paths cross...the former Master is my friend & has said that he will always be that to me...there are times when we will talk, as friends.......

i've often thought & said that in these types of threads, there is always more to it than just what the OP tells...i am basically a good & kind person as are all the people mentioned in this thread, including the OP...when emotions become involved, however, sometimes reason flies out the window...& there are always 2 sides to something like this & the truth is probably somewhere in between 



The plot thickens!

There is always 3 truths, his hers and the one in between. In this case, I see 4 truths.


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 9:05:28 PM   
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It looks like it will be hard to ignore when she sticks her but in the middle of everything! lol Going thru a similar situation where ex slave keeps communicating against our wishes. Sometimes when someone says, we can still be friends. It kinda means lets move on with our lifes and leave each other alone.   I am sure ex may be a decent person but needs to make a half effort to stay out of the way and not go out of their way to say hi!

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 10:22:51 PM   
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It looks like it will be hard to ignore when she sticks her but in the middle of everything! lol Going thru a similar situation where ex slave keeps communicating against our wishes. Sometimes when someone says, we can still be friends. It kinda means lets move on with our lifes and leave each other alone.   I am sure ex may be a decent person but needs to make a half effort to stay out of the way and not go out of their way to say hi!


I hope everything works out for you and your similar situation.

For the record, she isn't sticking herself in anywhere that she is not wanted.  He welcomes her friendship, and I must say that anyone that has his friendship is fortunate (I'm not just saying that because he's my Sir.)


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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/8/2007 10:26:13 PM   
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The ex claiming there is some imaginary or non imaginary disease screams 'can you still taste me on his dick??'

Get the test, both of you. no need for any further contact.

That washes her off his dick forever.


ROTFLMFAO  Thanks came4U, I got a good laugh from that!

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/9/2007 7:24:43 AM   
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Well, thats good to hear! Ours will just take a lil time. :) 

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/9/2007 12:03:40 PM   
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One should think about cutting ties when one can't let go. The problem you seem to have girlygurl. I am the current master of the slave you refer too. And I have been a friend of hers for awhile. (I'm pretty well known in the scene locally, and have been in the scene about thirty years.) I know for a fact that you have misrepresented both the facts and the timeline here.

First, it is not your responsibility to fight your Master's battles. He can take care of himself. That's why he's the Master.

Second, unless you are physically attatched to your master, you can not know everything thatr went on between him and another slave. Only what he wants you to know, and that may not be all the facts.

Third, before posting something like that, you should have had his permission. You didn't, and he has been notified. I notice your profile has either been removed or disabled now. That should tell us something.

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RE: When should one cut all ties? - 10/9/2007 1:13:54 PM   
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OK, so here’s the deal.  Master and slave have a relationship that is nothing less than tumultuous.  Master has released slave not once but twice in less than a year.  The last “release” came after slave threw a fit due to choices Master made with regard to another sub.  Shortly after release, ex-slave sends message to ex-Master and his sub that she has an infection and has been tested for STD’s, and she “suggests” they get tested.  ex-slave states she will let them know what the test results are.  Time passes…. sub asks slave “did you get the results back from your test?” slave responds, “have you been tested yet?” again, sub asked, “did you get the results back from your test?” and again slave says, “have you been tested yet?”  sub communicates the obvious game slave is playing (cause she’s pissed at ex-Master) and sub removes herself from said game.  slave proceeds to communicate in so many words that she is not going to tell ex-Master or sub what her test results are. AND (with a little prodding) slave fesses up that she’s playing ex-Master and this “getting tested” crap is all a game! 
 
Of course there’s lots of detail that’s been left out, as they are sure to bore you all.  Bottom line….. slave is contacting ex-Master again.  She’s depressed, needs a friend??? Who knows…. Question.  Where does one draw the line when playing the part of a concerned friend?  Should the sub keep her mouth shut and not saying anything to Master of her feelings of this “trouble maker” ex-slave? 


 As a bystander who has heard alot of nonsense from this relationship, I feel as though the truth lies in the middle, but far away from Girly. You'll notice she kept sending messages to the slave. slave was told not to have any contact with sub and the sub knew that.  Sub was the one who was jealous that the slave was taken back and worked daily to break them apart. When the Master didn't step in (and after slave caught him lying about it), slave finally realized he wasn't who she thought he was and ended it. If it was me, I'd end the friendship part too (liars disgust me), but it's not, so the bit of a tie remains.

Girly has been asked to stay out of slave's business, to not mention slave to others (so she goes to a munch that both are attending and tells slave's business to anyone who will listen), and never contact slave. She disobeys all of that and posts to this forum a bunch of lies and half truths to get some attention, then emails slave a bunch of nonsense. What sub seems to need is professional intervention and something else to fill her time. And to get tested. Hell, if i was in that sort of relationship, and i can't see myself going there, i'd get tested frequently, unprotected sex with a partner who has multiples that he doesn't tell you about is just spooky. There was a vaginal bacterial infection and then a yeast infection and either could be transmitted through sexual contact, though neither could really be called an STD.

I hate stepping in here, but my dearest friend is hurting and in a very difficult place. She is very private about her sexual life, well, actually about most things, and to have her dirty laundry aired and further covered in the filth of lies is more pain than she deserves, or than anyone deserves. I will never understand why people post things that seem to have no purpose but to hurt someone else and draw attention to themselves.


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