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JackM1 -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 10:01:13 AM)

so, yesterday while running with a few friends and classmates, i tripped over a part of the sidewalk we were jogging on(since the track ring is being re-modeled along with the football field) and scraped up both my palms, my knee and sprained my wrist. being the kind of person that trouble just seems to find(just last week someone stepped on my rather expensive glasses, breaking them into three pieces and forcing me to buy a new, expensive, pair so i could drive safely) and a bit of a recent hypochindriac(nursing student) noone really thought much when i said my wrist hurt, but took me to the urgent care center near by because i was badly scraped up and bleeding. after some examinating, the doc there said i did in fact injure my wrist, and that i was lucky i didnt break it because of the way i fell. go figure, when i get home for the weekend, my sister, who was also visiting, accused me of faking it anyway, but backed  off once i mentioned how even when she gets a headache, she lets everyone know and makes a big deal out of it, but NEVER gives anyone else the same curtisy, because obviously her hurts are real and everyone is is faking.

people can be assholes sparklette, if youre injured, youre injured, doesnt matter what everyone else thinks. when i was younger, i started having my appendidice while i was in school, and the nurse there actually told me not to waste her time with lies, because i was being very particular about were the pain was and how frequently i was having it(i have a nurse for a mother, she never took " it hurts!" for an explination). turns out by the time i got to the emergency room, HOURS later, i was maybe a half our away from my apendix bursting and being in REAL trouble.

as for the person who called you a hypochondriac, hes probably one of those people who, like my sister, assumes that they are the only one who ever gets bad hurts, and assumes that when anyone else talks about their issues that they are lying, over exagirating, or had caused their own problems by being irresponsible. i find that those are generally the most "dramatic" people; people who dont like others to have attention, and take advantage of every little thing to get it all for themselves.



Celeste43 -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 10:17:18 AM)

Ignore the twit please.

I've had an ovarian cyst, caused bleeding for six straight weeks. Luckily for me, as for you, surgery was not required.

The people responsible for you falling were the hospital staff. They doped you up and knew you couldn't manage alone.

But these are just accidents not true self induced crises. The only people I've known who were crisis addicts and were self aware enough to talk about it all said that this was what went on in their family of origin. To be heard, to get any needs met, you had to become the center of attention in a family of highly dysfunctional people, all of whom were also seeking to get unmet needs filled.

And yeah, it took a hell of a lot of therapy to recognize it and deal with it.



breatheasone -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 10:31:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Yes, it was drama, your medical issue was fixed?? a cyst? yet it was outpatient? ok, then get out and move on.  You absorbed time, space and funding that could have be used for persons who were actually ill. Any doctor who put you on actual drugs that would give you possible side effects of such quick acting dizzyness would have insisted you stay or have someone with you. Knock off the hypochondria.  If that wasn't enough you had to come here to brag about your possible drama-causing girly-faints? gosh..golly, I'd toss ya from the hospital bathroom,, dizzy or not. drama for pity? ummm you cost people (a government) money.

WTF dude?...ratchet it down a bit....geezus....



feastie -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 11:15:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Yes, it was drama, your medical issue was fixed?? a cyst? yet it was outpatient? ok, then get out and move on.  You absorbed time, space and funding that could have be used for persons who were actually ill. Any doctor who put you on actual drugs that would give you possible side effects of such quick acting dizzyness would have insisted you stay or have someone with you. Knock off the hypochondria.  If that wasn't enough you had to come here to brag about your possible drama-causing girly-faints? gosh..golly, I'd toss ya from the hospital bathroom,, dizzy or not. drama for pity? ummm you cost people (a government) money.


I don't recall the OP saying anything about whether she has medical insurance, is self-pay or on Medicaid.  So how, exactly, did she cost the government money?  Also, not every ovarian cyst requires hospitilization and/or surgery.  It's completely within normal limits to be treated on an outpatient basis, but then, that's not what she said either.  She said she went to the ER.  When one is admitted to the ER, it's not considered outpatient.  It is admission to the hospital.  Also to be noted, an ovarian cyst can be medically dangerous, even lethal.  Luckily for her they found that she could be treated and released.  But they should have watched her better or asked if she needed to visit the restroom once they medicated her.  Everyone reacts to medications differently.  Someone else might not have experienced the same dizziness that she did while on the same medication in the same dosage.  That doesn't mean that she was exhibiting hypochondria that she did have her reaction to the medication.  That she fell while in the restroom under the influence of the medication and care they provided, her accident is their responsibility.  They HAD to re-admit her and care for her, otherwise would have opened them up for a lawsuit.  They're probably still worrying about that anyway.  Finally, the hospital itself is probably absorbing the cost of her care for the fall, since it happened in their facility when she'd been in their care, which is what any lawsuit would have provided that they do; cover her medical costs associated with the fall.

I'm not sure what bee got in your bonnet, but you are incredibly offbase in your comments as relates to the OP as made.  Unless of course, you have information the rest of us don't have, in which case, please provide evidence supporting your unmitigated bile toward the OP.  Evidence, not theory, assumption or conjecture.  Cold, hard, specific data to the OP.



breatheasone -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 11:19:27 AM)

On a lighter note...Spanklette, if you are a hypochondriac you can always put, "SEE! I told you I was sick!" on your tombstone![:D]



earthycouple -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 11:30:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: came4U

Yes, it was drama, your medical issue was fixed?? a cyst? yet it was outpatient? ok, then get out and move on.  You absorbed time, space and funding that could have be used for persons who were actually ill. Any doctor who put you on actual drugs that would give you possible side effects of such quick acting dizzyness would have insisted you stay or have someone with you. Knock off the hypochondria.  If that wasn't enough you had to come here to brag about your possible drama-causing girly-faints? gosh..golly, I'd toss ya from the hospital bathroom,, dizzy or not. drama for pity? ummm you cost people (a government) money.


Now that....that was drama.  Yeah, I reiterate everything everyone else on this thread said about the above lunacy (as a healthcare provider, no less).



adoracat -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 11:45:08 AM)

owwies on the cyst!! those hurt!!!!!!!

and no, that isnt drama queening.  i sometimes laugh that my own life is something that even a bad soap opera writer would look at and say "nope, unbelievable!!" and toss the script away.  but i see it as "shit happens".

i hope you feel MUCH better now spanklette, the same thing with the ankle surgery you're facing.

kitten




spanklette -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 2:11:27 PM)

Thank you everyone for your well wishes! I'm feeling much better...the cyst kind of feels like a bad cramp now...they said it will get better as I get further into my cycle.
 
For the record, the hospital is not assuming any of the charges for my second admittance...well, I haven't got the bills yet, but no one said they would. And, really, I don't think they thought that I was going to get up and go to the restroom. They couldn't see me enter because there was a door to the restroom in my room...and a door to the outside hallway.
 
At the time, they were treating an elderly lady who had just fallen in another room...Daddy told me that. I was too loopy to hear.[:)] Anyway, I really don't think it was their fault. Doctors and nurses and techs aren't mind readers, you have to tell them if you're not feeling solid enough to move around an your own. My bad...
 
This thread kind of moved away from my original point, but no one in my life doubts that I needed medical care. And I have a newfound respect for anyone complaining about an ovarian cyst. Frickin' OW!
 
And, no worries about me being a family drama queen either...the aunt I mentioned earlier just re-admitted herself to the hospital for somethign or other...but this time, I'll be sure to call and let her know I care that she's hurt (whether or not she is). And, just like that I'm out of my family's spotlight and back to being the black sheep...which is just the way I like it.[:D]
 
Again, thank you all for your concern and well-wishes.
 
And, came4u...thank you for illustrating how people react to people who tend to dramatize everything up to and including stubbed toes. You've just put a mirror up to my face about how I think about my aunt...and I don't want to be that way. So, you have been a help after all. Thanks! [:)]



nyrisa -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 2:49:55 PM)

Spanklette, I was recently in the hospital for over a week. I was having abdominal pain for 2 days, kept toughing it out, assuring myself it was just a virus. When I finally went in, I was diagnosed with a bowel obstruction. So, I'd say, from experience, that anyone who tries to ignore prolonged abdominal pain is a nut. I am glad you were seen and treated.

They gave me dilaudid and promethazine IV for several days. I recall getting up to go to the bathroom, and losing my balance, and turning in a circle trying to catch myself, stepping INTO the tub accidentally, then back out again, before finally catching the wall. Viewing myself from the ceiling, it was like some kind of surreal LSD ballet. *L* Luckily, I did not fall.

As to your other question: I believe that for most people, things happen just due to life's ups and downs, and not because they do anything to cause it. But, in a few cases, I think that a person's psychological makeup does attract negative things, and if they are a negative person, it is like a continuous loop for them.

I have a family member who always takes the most negative view, and when things happen, feels justified. He also has more bad stuff happen to him because he is so busy saying how bad his luck is, that he does not freakin' pay attention, and loses stuff, trips over stuff, drops stuff, and generally makes himself accident prone. It is awfully hard to have sympathy for him, because he just does not admit that there are ways he could alter his life, just by making a conscious effort to change his outlook.

Hope you are doing well now, and life smiles on you. *S*



spanklette -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 5:50:20 PM)

Wow! I'm glad you were seen and treated. Sometimes it's hard to know when to tough things out and when you're just being stubborn. I completely understand the bathrrom experience, although, I really don't remember all that well. I can't imagine trying to get up and around after two days on those particular meds...it was quite a feat without all that time. I'm glad you are doing well!



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 6:47:48 PM)

having had an ovarian cyst rupture, and spending 3 days in hospital on morphine due to the pain, i have to say this aint drama, just falls under "shit happens"

the drama i had was getting the folks at ER to believe i was really sick-lol-amazing how when you double over and start puking from pain, they see ya fast........



feastie -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 7:32:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

For the record, the hospital is not assuming any of the charges for my second admittance...well, I haven't got the bills yet, but no one said they would. And, really, I don't think they thought that I was going to get up and go to the restroom. They couldn't see me enter because there was a door to the restroom in my room...and a door to the outside hallway.
 
They've been taught not to claim responsibility in case you do sue.

At the time, they were treating an elderly lady who had just fallen in another room...Daddy told me that. I was too loopy to hear.[:)] Anyway, I really don't think it was their fault. Doctors and nurses and techs aren't mind readers, you have to tell them if you're not feeling solid enough to move around an your own. My bad...  Believe me, having worked in a hospital for nearly five years, your fall is their responsibility, no matter what you may or may not have told them.
 



spanklette -> RE: Drama? (9/29/2007 7:51:44 PM)

Thanks for the information feastie...I really don't feel they were negligent enough to reward them by suing. I might feel differently if the circumstances had been different, or if I didn't fall all around my own house with the help of medications.[:D] Maybe if I weren't so prone to falling around I might be more indignant, but mostly I just felt clumsy and irritated that I couldn't go home. But, thanks for the info! 



came4U -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 9:26:14 AM)

 

You asked the question..is it drama??? yes.  It is your drama issue, not mine. 

It would cost a govt money, but not if you are American. Now it is a matter of insurance deductables.  Time and resource sucking? yep.

No, I don't get sick, but if I did, I would make damn sure someone I knew was with me when I was discharged or I would refuse discharge until someone arrived to babysit me.  Most competent doctors (if meds were THAT potent) wouldn't release without an escort anyhoo.  If you want all positive, back patting responses, say so.

celest:
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Ignore the twit please.
 

Did someone in here call me a twit, yet the same person who told me (for calling someone who isn't even this site or online at all) that calling him a goof is uncalled for?  Listen up.  Do NOT order me around nor make idiotic comments towards me or others.  Flame to those you actually know enough to disrespect.  I care nothing or know nothing about you and frankly am not interested. 



leatherette -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:10:07 AM)

spanklette:

I have to say I am concerned for you here.  If anyone has had an ovarian cyst rupture - they know the pain can be excrutiating. The pain is similair to a ruptured appendix, and that level of intense stabbing, especially immediate pain - is that of which any doctor or emergency room attendant would say : get thee to the hospital..and fast! The ruptured cyst won't kill - but it's close in symptoms/pain intensity to life threatening conditions. That's why you did have to go to the ER.

If they gave you that extreme pain medicine - and at least in the US - they do so sparingly ( I've never had it - )  the patient must be in severe pain!
(Its more often used on patients who are dying or close!)

They should have had someone escort you - a patient on a  drug that is a close relative to morphine - to the bathroom. If you were hurt - it is negligence on their part.

Sorry - 'cause you seem like a terrific girl - 

DRAMA? YES. But, the drama is that you are so concerned that you may have caused drama that you post here asking!
Are you a martyr? Should you have suffered in unknown agony and maybe die of an unknown cause - then everyone would feel oh so bad?! 
You were wasted out of your mind on medically administered dope - you got dizzy - how the F* is that your fault?
To justify this you say "poor, bad, useless me - I am sooo clumsy..everything just has to be my fault" = DRAMA!

hey - you are a great gal and you'll be fine. Please, don't take offense at this post. I hope you can see the point - really - just relax!!!



came4U -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:15:18 AM)

well..that was my point..mentioning some dramatic event and then posing a question under guise of 'is it drama for SOMEONE other than herself to call attention to themselves'  Make up my mind, is it a question about you or a question about the rest of the world and not about you?

I just answered.

call a waaaaaambulance if you don't like it.



camille65 -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:22:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: came4U



You asked the question..is it drama??? yes.  It is your drama issue, not mine. 

It would cost a govt money, but not if you are American. Now it is a matter of insurance deductables.  Time and resource sucking? yep.

No, I don't get sick, but if I did, I would make damn sure someone I knew was with me when I was discharged or I would refuse discharge until someone arrived to babysit me.  Most competent doctors (if meds were THAT potent) wouldn't release without an escort anyhoo.  If you want all positive, back patting responses, say so.

celest:
quote:

Ignore the twit please.
 

Did someone in here call me a twit, yet the same person who told me (for calling someone who isn't even this site or online at all) that calling him a goof is uncalled for?  Listen up.  Do NOT order me around nor make idiotic comments towards me or others.  Flame to those you actually know enough to disrespect.  I care nothing or know nothing about you and frankly am not interested. 

How is it time & resource sucking to go to the ER when you need very much to be there?
Should she have stayed home perhaps?
Stayed home and if it were a gallbladder bursting, or appendix rupturing and dying?
THAT would be taking time and resources, the ambulance then the medical examiner then the funeral home.
Gods forbid she waste the time of the mourners standing around the casket wondering why on earth someone with a brain did not go to the hospital?
Your posts make no sense.



came4U -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:35:40 AM)

even more drama to cover the origional drama

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THAT would be taking time and resources, the ambulance then the medical examiner then the funeral home.
Gods forbid she waste the time of the mourners standing around the casket wondering why on earth someone with a brain did not go to the hospital?
Your posts make no sense.


gods, now you have her dropping dead.

Oh lordy. Does this need explaining like you are a 5 yr old?

The conversation has to do with her falling afterwards, and if THAT was the drama.  Why she went is of no consequence, fact is, she was discharged, fell, went boom, and is now asking if it is drama.  The 'after' treatment is the issue, if knowing one is a klutz especially, leaving via a discharge then falling on hospital property.  If one was fit to make decisions they would have someone by their side when they leave.  Obviously the meds were strong.  Yet failing to have a babysitter and being discharged as 'fit' and explainations of such klutzyness is the hypochondria of which I speak of.  It is I M O DRAAAAAMA.  If you want to toss pity, by all means, do so.  I don't and won't. 



FullCircle -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:40:46 AM)

I’ll have you all know I trod the boards myself once. I could have been an actor but I decided instead to get involved in amateur dramatics. Hence now I tread another type of board. Did I type this as some kind of attention seeking thing? Yes. Do I care that you think I typed this as some kind of attention seeking thing? Noooooo. Does anything I’ve said have any relevance to the initial question? Maybe. Don’t I know how to type any other form of sentence than that of a question? Uncertain. What is my name again?



camille65 -> RE: Drama? (9/30/2007 10:43:54 AM)

Sorry FullCircle, that was directed to me but I don't understand what you are trying to say. Aside from the fact that I posted several questions.



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