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What kind of Master - 7/24/2005 3:47:56 AM   
Valhalla69


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Status: offline 		Hi all,i was just wondering if someone can answer a question for me ,well more a theory,i think that the kind of person you are makes you that kind of Master,for example a naturally caring guy would be a caring Master.

Whereas maybe someone else who isnt so nice in the real world wont be so nice as a Master,maybe i am wrong but i figured that most Masters do what they think is right and go by their personality.

I was just wondering if this is right or not,i would appreciate peoples opinions on this matter,thanks,ANDY.
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RE: What kind of Master - 7/24/2005 2:28:33 PM   
Kinkypupper


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RE: What kind of Master - 7/24/2005 3:14:17 PM   
MasterHyde


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Status: offline 		I'm a little confused by your question, but I think it's just a matter of how you put the words together.

Are you asking if your general character as human being determins your general character as a "Master?"

Why yes, yes it does.

I think character is character, and the general charact traits that define me as a person will remain whether I'm tying up my slave, working at the office, or hanging out with friends. There are times when people step out of their molds a bit, but I think most people will remain, at their core, the same basic person that they are, no matter what situation they are in.

This is just a feeling on my part, but if someone's personality and behavior change drastically from one situation to another, they might not mentally or emotionally stable. That might be a warning sign of someone who is repressing something, or who has some unresolvd psyshological issues. I would be wary of someone like that, and I would caution submissives to avoid letting their guard down in that situation.


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RE: What kind of Master - 7/24/2005 11:25:12 PM   
FangsNfeet


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Status: offline 		In general you are correct. As for me I'm always myself. I like my personality and don't feel the need to cover it up with a demenor. Perhaps I am a little more professional at work and more crude in public but I don't change much. I like helping ppl and encouraging them to find ways to better themselves. So I've been called a nice guy a time or two and yes my pet agrees that I'm nice most of the time. Sadistic things can be done in a nice way and with a smile at that. After all, I am a nice guy. But some submissives have told me that it's the nice doms that they have to watch out for.

Now out of the general population, you never know what's really going through a persons mind untill you see them at home. I've seen over ruleing MDs and CEOs dominate the area with screaming orders yet go home saying "Sorry honey that I"m late, do I need to bend over for another spanking?"
You just don't know with ppl. We are having pedifilers becoming teachers, preist, and Scout leaders just so they can take advantage of our trust.

Does this wrap it up for you Val?




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RE: What kind of Master - 7/25/2005 3:33:34 AM   
Valhalla69


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Status: offline 		Thanks guys,it was just something i was thinking when i was bored and i thought i would get other people perspectives on it.

I think if you read my profile and my latest journal entry that might help to explain the question as i have recently had my eyes opened and i realised i was trying to be something that really wasnt me

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RE: What kind of Master - 7/25/2005 11:20:14 AM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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ORIGINAL: Valhalla69
Whereas maybe someone else who isnt so nice in the real world wont be so nice as a Master,maybe i am wrong but i figured that most Masters do what they think is right and go by their personality.


I think that lots and lots of folks put on a mask when they enter the dungeon. The powerful CEO becomes the powerless slave boy. The dominating mother of 4 gets tied up and spanked. They transform into what they want to become.

Now, when folks try to take this out of the dungeon, and incorporate wiitwd into their real lives, they often run into issues of consistency and integration. How can a man who was raised to see women as equals so fully dominate this woman in front of him? How can a woman who is constantly told (in one way or another) that men should be the bread winner and pant wearer so enjoy holding the reins?

The simply masks are hard to wear for more than 24 hours, and the facade can come tumbling down.

What has to happen is that you integrate your kink into your life.

Take me for example, I am a rather laid back kind of guy. I am never going to yell at anyone to do anything. When I am in a a scene or doing some training, I am much more likely to whisper then shout. I have taken how I live the rest of my life and wrapped it in my kink.

Find your own groove...

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RE: What kind of Master - 7/25/2005 10:57:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

In general you are correct. As for me I'm always myself. I like my personality and don't feel the need to cover it up with a demenor. Perhaps I am a little more professional at work and more crude in public but I don't change much. I like helping ppl and encouraging them to find ways to better themselves. So I've been called a nice guy a time or two and yes my pet agrees that I'm nice most of the time. Sadistic things can be done in a nice way and with a smile at that. After all, I am a nice guy. But some submissives have told me that it's the nice doms that they have to watch out for.

Now out of the general population, you never know what's really going through a persons mind untill you see them at home. I've seen over ruleing MDs and CEOs dominate the area with screaming orders yet go home saying "Sorry honey that I"m late, do I need to bend over for another spanking?"
You just don't know with ppl. We are having pedifilers becoming teachers, preist, and Scout leaders just so they can take advantage of our trust.

Does this wrap it up for you Val?





G'day Val,

I'd have to echo much of what Fangs has said. I too professionally find that I need to underplay some areas of my interests and what I am, and although my known involvement in lifestyle areas and alternative religions has caused me to be refused registration with the state Psychologists Board and thus denying me the right to practice as a psychologist (they know I would be using way to many alternative therapy techniques for their liking) it has boosted my status as a professional counsellor.

Like so many others I know in this lifestyle, I’m open about my interests and what I do. I’m certainly caring and protective as well as careful. I have no idea what others who know me think, nor am I particularly interested. I am never interested in entering the popularity stakes. People either like me or they don’t and is the latter is the case then the loss is theirs.. I certainly had a huge laugh when I was tagged by a couple of folk who barely knew me as being “The Most Evil Bastard In Australia”.. Pretty good PR as far as I’m concerned. I know one thing as being a given, in time I will find the people I want to join my wife and I.







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RE: What kind of Master - 7/29/2005 6:10:21 PM   
Kerosedge


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Status: offline 		I find it odd myself, those wo wear masks. I am always this way wether I am at a Gorean gathering or a bdsm party. I do not know how to be any other way. What is troubleing is that many have to wear a mask to hide the fact that they are so unhappy with their lives, they have to wear a mask and hide in dark corners of the world to fill their desires.
Such things are never healthy I think.

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RE: What kind of Master - 7/29/2005 7:02:59 PM   
MstrHellsFury


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Status: offline 		thinking on this for awhile it comes down to this for me...my background and upbringing caused me to become a very blunt and straightfoward..tell it like I see it..give as good as I get..take no crap kind of person...when I went into the military..they profiled me with(and don't ask because to this day I have no idea what it means)very high type "A" personality...I guess I'll carry that baggage for the rest of this life anyway...I've always found myself being a leader wether I wanted to or not...so as far as this lifestyle and my non-life personna...I'm me..all day every day...I don't change or put on different faces...maybe if I can be taught to it can happen..but I'm happy just calling em as I see em...


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RE: What kind of Master - 7/30/2005 6:22:56 AM   
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i know this isn't really pertinent..but i grew up in an "interesting" fashion...was beaten quite a bit; carried a switchblade in high school and used it twice; have absolutely no doubt i would kill under certain circumstances...and yet i always felt so lonesome. Became a lawyer and worked for the state, trying cases which affected the elderly and the poor, and won..but still felt so empty...and then burned out and ended up accidentially finding castle realm...and it was so thrilling..there were words for how i felt (i am a submissive) and in my present circumstances i could explore it in a way i never could whilst still practicing law.

i am still trying to adjust to getting rid of the "lawyer" headspace...and part of that is not defending everyone with a broken toe. i am trying to be calmer, more at peace; let some things ride..it's hard...but the rewards are great.

So for me, there has been a 180 degree change on the outside; but only to bring the outside into alingment with the inside.

pinkpleasures

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RE: What kind of Master - 7/30/2005 5:27:46 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		I believe that your basic theory is correct. It is my personal opinion that any person will deal with life untilizing basic character strenghts and virtues, regardless of Dominant Personality or submissive. I see the Dominance or submissive nature of a person a motivating force for that person. Movitating force being the desires and passions that orginate from our basic personality at it's core. The character strengths and virtues are the tools we utilitize to fullifill these desires and passions that motivate us. Psychologists Christopher Peterson and Martin E.P. Seligman identified a list of specific character Strengths and Virtues that are common in all cultural societies. It was thru their research and others that science is better understanding the strenghts that people untilize to find contentment and happiness as well as understanding behaviors and choices we make as humans in our relatinships.

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RE: What kind of Master - 8/3/2005 11:15:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say that is true to a point.

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