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southernhart -> is this really true (9/30/2007 8:23:03 PM)

Can you be taught to cum on cmmand? and if so how is it done and are you sure the girl is not faking it.




honestsub4real -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:29:06 PM)

ohhhhhhhh it can be done!! The secret is in your Master, but yes it can be done.  i don't question it, I just say thank you lol.




SunnyTawse -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:33:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: southernhart

Can you be taught to cum on cmmand? and if so how is it done and are you sure the girl is not faking it.



Absolutely, both men and women can be trained to orgasm on command.

The person doing the training has to know the person being trained well enough to recognize the signs of an approaching orgasm. It's not the sort of thing that most strangers can do at a party in an hour.

There are quite a few prerequisites, and I wouldn't care to give a course via CollarMe chat... for several reasons. Suffice it to say that ANY autonomous response can be conditioned; Pavlov proved that.

Sunny Tawse
Sadien Domina
Archon of Rings
http://AthenorLodge.com




SingleRarity -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:34:53 PM)

I can cum on command....when already turned on.  At this point while stimulating me, he can count down from ten, and I can orgasm.  It took time, conditioning, and patience on both sides.  Having a Hitachi doesn't hurt either.  As for the faking it part, when a woman orgasms, her nipples will usually harden, and if you stick a finger and/or dick inside of her you should feel rapid spasms.  I do have to ask, why in God's name would you fake an orgasm?  If it's not working tell him.  Anywho, if you'd like to hear how he's conditioned me a little more in-depth send a PM.  It's a fun process really.  I feel so amazingly submissive as he counts down from ten and grants me permission to cum.  Ah, how I feel so totally his in those moments.  Especially if he's shoved a butt plug n my ass!




subconscious1 -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:45:00 PM)

Am owned by MasterHypnotist and yes, He can make this one cum on command. He can also trigger orgasms during red lights while driving, or touching a doorknob, etc. He has also blessed this one with additional clitoral sensations via other areas of my body at His beckoning. Jealous? You should be! LOL!




SunnyTawse -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:45:19 PM)

It's not a good idea to discuss the technique in front of the very submissives who may someday be so conditioned, IMHO.

Additionally, there are ethical concerns--some fairly serious--that would probably not be addressed in a discussion of technique.

Sunny




DiurnalVampire -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:49:42 PM)

I have had both male and female subs that coud cum on command. I have also liked the smells or feels of certain things to those orgasms (such as baby oil) so that the smell alone can get them aroused.  It is even better when , as in Angel's case, it gets to the point where he cannot cum without that smell, and without permission.

DV




SunnyTawse -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 8:54:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

It is even better when , as in Angel's case, it gets to the point where he cannot cum without... <snip>... permission.




Well, yes... it's quite a power trip. But if that's actually the case--which I don't doubt--what will Angel do if you get hit by a bus??

The whole matter is a bit deeper than would seem a first glance.

Sunny




breatheasone -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 9:06:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

It's not a good idea to discuss the technique in front of the very submissives who may someday be so conditioned, IMHO.

Additionally, there are ethical concerns--some fairly serious--that would probably not be addressed in a discussion of technique.

Sunny


Hmmm.Is it just me?...or did this seem a bit condescending to anyone else? If its just me..or if it just struck only me the wrong way, my apologies to SunnyTawse




southernhart -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 9:15:46 PM)

Thanks everyone. i would like to change the question a little bit. Can your Master train you to cum without stimulation fny kind,. Just sitting next to you watching tv and he says out of the blue cum. Can this be done? it sounds pretty far fetched to me




DiurnalVampire -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 9:26:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

It is even better when , as in Angel's case, it gets to the point where he cannot cum without... <snip>... permission.




Well, yes... it's quite a power trip. But if that's actually the case--which I don't doubt--what will Angel do if you get hit by a bus??

The whole matter is a bit deeper than would seem a first glance.

Sunny


Very simple.  Remove the snip and the rest of the message answers that.
He cannot cum without the smell of baby oil and permission. IF I am for some reason gone from thi earth, I am sure another dominant can either pick up with his training as is, or retrain him to their liking. 
The baby oil smell is necesary but my touch isnt. My permission is, but not in voice I have done so online when I have had to, by email when it was necessary becasue he was away overseas. 
The whole matter has been very carfully considered before I started his conditioning.  But thank you for your concern.

DV




breatheasone -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 9:43:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: southernhart

Thanks everyone. i would like to change the question a little bit. Can your Master train you to cum without stimulation fny kind,. Just sitting next to you watching tv and he says out of the blue cum. Can this be done? it sounds pretty far fetched to me

I concur




SunnyTawse -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 10:15:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

It is even better when , as in Angel's case, it gets to the point where he cannot cum without... <snip>... permission.




Well, yes... it's quite a power trip. But if that's actually the case--which I don't doubt--what will Angel do if you get hit by a bus??

The whole matter is a bit deeper than would seem a first glance.

Sunny


Very simple.  Remove the snip and the rest of the message answers that.
He cannot cum without the smell of baby oil and permission. IF I am for some reason gone from thi earth, I am sure another dominant can either pick up with his training as is, or retrain him to their liking. 
The baby oil smell is necesary but my touch isnt. My permission is, but not in voice I have done so online when I have had to, by email when it was necessary becasue he was away overseas. 
The whole matter has been very carfully considered before I started his conditioning.  But thank you for your concern.

DV




I see. Perhaps I misunderstood your statement, "It is even better when, as in Angel's case, it gets to the point where he cannot cum without that smell, and without permission."

breatheasone, I stand by my opinion. The intricacies of orgasm training involve ethical concerns that I doubt we will see addressed in this discussion. I will be glad if I'm wrong... and perhaps later on I'll pop back in to find out.

Sunny




SunnyTawse -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 10:18:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

ORIGINAL: southernhart

Thanks everyone. i would like to change the question a little bit. Can your Master train you to cum without stimulation fny kind,. Just sitting next to you watching tv and he says out of the blue cum. Can this be done? it sounds pretty far fetched to me

I concur




Do you think it's farfetched that Pavlov's dogs salivated at the sound of a bell?

I so wish I had the time to discuss this in more detail! But... up at six a.m. Time to sleep.

Sunny




breatheasone -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 10:24:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

ORIGINAL: southernhart

Thanks everyone. i would like to change the question a little bit. Can your Master train you to cum without stimulation fny kind,. Just sitting next to you watching tv and he says out of the blue cum. Can this be done? it sounds pretty far fetched to me

I concur




Do you think it's farfetched that Pavlov's dogs salivated at the sound of a bell?

I so wish I had the time to discuss this in more detail! But... up at six a.m. Time to sleep.

Sunny


Of course not...but then again..the dog didnt cum to the sound of the bell either did he?




laurell3 -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 11:55:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunnyTawse

It's not a good idea to discuss the technique in front of the very submissives who may someday be so conditioned, IMHO.

Additionally, there are ethical concerns--some fairly serious--that would probably not be addressed in a discussion of technique.

Sunny



LoL with all due respect, get over yourself.
l




laurell3 -> RE: is this really true (9/30/2007 11:59:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: southernhart

Thanks everyone. i would like to change the question a little bit. Can your Master train you to cum without stimulation fny kind,. Just sitting next to you watching tv and he says out of the blue cum. Can this be done? it sounds pretty far fetched to me


Certainly if they've been denied orgasm for a long period of time it's possible, I've experienced that with male subs.  Without long periods of denial, I suppose it might be possible if you work alot on orgasm denial and orgasming on command, although I have a hard time picturing it for myself honestly.  The earlier question about orgasming when commanded with stimulation is most definitely true.
l




HotFaerieMama -> RE: is this really true (10/1/2007 12:05:35 AM)

dunno if this helps or not but friday night i was doing a voice chat with 2 friends.. sam and steve . well steve kept doing his evil laugh and he stopped for a while and we were all bullshitting.. and well he did it again and i had an orgasam! i thought that something like this was impossible but i was proven wrong.





breatheasone -> RE: is this really true (10/1/2007 12:07:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HotFaerieMama

dunno if this will help any.. but the other night when isat up all night talking with 2 friends.. one of them laughed.. his evil laugh and well untill then i didn't think that an orgasam w/o stimulation was impossble.. i have been proven wrong...

Hmmm...I don't get it.....[&:]




pinkme2 -> RE: is this really true (10/1/2007 12:15:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

ORIGINAL: HotFaerieMama

dunno if this will help any.. but the other night when isat up all night talking with 2 friends.. one of them laughed.. his evil laugh and well untill then i didn't think that an orgasam w/o stimulation was impossble.. i have been proven wrong...

Hmmm...I don't get it.....[&:]

Apparently her friend's evil laugh pushed over the edge into a spontaneious O.  [:D]




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