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LotusSong -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (10/1/2007 2:31:34 PM)

The best advice I can offer you is this:
 
Save your drama for your momma.  There is no knight on a white horse that is going to swoop you up and make all your troubles (aka 'issues') go away.  It's unfair for anyone to expect that of anyone. Life isn't easy.  Too many come to the M/s situation thinking all they have to be a good little submissive and the dom will fix it all.
 
The majority of the men who come into it are looking for hot, kinky sex.. they are not looking to be your problem solvers.  They might do a bit but it's that baggage that take the fun out of it for them and you will end up bouncing from dom to dom.
 
That's just my 2 cents. (over priced as it may be).




CutieMouse -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (10/1/2007 2:33:42 PM)

Quick response:

If you're a student, you should be able to get psych/therapy assistance through the college/university - part of doing Masters/PhD level work to get a psychology degree is logging hours providing on campus counseling.

If you can't find therapy through college, contact your county's MH/MR (Mental Health/Mental Retardation) department. They provide therapy with a sliding scale fee - again, staffed by therapists who are either completing their PhD level work, or have chosen to do community outreach. (Sometimes you get lucky and end up with a top notch/6+ month waiting list charges $100 per hour in their private practice therapist, and only pay $25 per session.)




kinkypuppy2 -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/3/2007 9:33:47 PM)

So what is your questions.




masterlink65 -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/3/2007 9:39:45 PM)

i dont seem to have that problem.

maybe there is some communication problem in your household?
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are you selfish. ? that should be easy to see. just cause you are giving and caring does not mean you are also not selfish

do you fear your master? you should not fear your master. you should feel safer with your master than anywhere else.

are you resistant to your master?




jacketgirl -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/3/2007 9:49:37 PM)

it is not the therapist who heals you, doll, it's YOU.  you heal you.  you are the only one who can.  find someone skilled, who will ask you the hard questions, and get you to look honestly at your own behaviors.  it's scary, but it is a necessary step.  good luck.

jg




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/3/2007 11:18:25 PM)

I tend to know a lot of PEOPLE who tend to be...
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selfish, can't listen to what you're saying and misinterpret things to have hidden negative meanings, pessimistic, overly resistant to their [partner], can't express their love feelings for their [partner], childish, full of a lot of fear, anxious, depressed, and with no self-esteem.


In my opinion, the root of all this is the fear that we are not worthy...and how we both deny it and look for proof of it.

Master Fire




eyesopened -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/4/2007 2:16:45 AM)

What helps me is to remember that happiness is a choice.  Simple as it sounds, people can simply choose to be happy.  Happiness is something that comes from the inside not from outside.  When we defer our happiness until some outside event happens it's like saving the good china for an event that may never happen.  The other thing is to change ones inner dialogue to get rid of negative words and get rid of "what's wrong with me" and start spending time looking at "what's right with me"  There's no magic pill, no surgery, no pixie-dust that can bring balance and joy into our lives... just the decision to be balanced and joyful.

Consider how one trains a killer-whale.  They cannot be shamed into jumping through a hoop, they cannot be beaten or punished into it.  They are rewarded first for the accidental right choice until they figure out how to consistantly make the right choice and then they build from there.  Start rewarding yourself for what is right about you instead of beating yourself for what you precieve to be wrong.




angelikaJ -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/4/2007 3:03:00 AM)

hermione, I will likely send you an email.

you said you tried months of therapy...even if it was the right kind of therapy for you, months isn't long enough for many people who have issues.
I have been in therapy for a couple of yrs.
It has helped alot!!!!

You sound like you are feeling hopeless...and helpless and it sounds like these are not new feelings... .
Love can help but love cant fix... the very worst thing that can happen is that you will find a guy with rocks in his head and the rocks in his happen to fit the holes in yours...you will just make each other worse.

jenn





BrokenSaint -> RE: Do you feel like your slaves/submissives tend to be.. (12/4/2007 4:00:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

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Slaves have a larger ratio than dominant doms
- PS, I'm not sure I understood this. A larger ratio of what than dominant doms.. ? *confused* Celeste, I'd be willing, but I don't even make 100 dollars a week total atm in school, much less could I pay that for therapy. I did try for months of therapy though. I was on SSRI's for years, and it did nothing as far as I could tell. Prozac helped prevent my migraine headaches.. and other than that... the only thing they did was give me worse nightmares than I normally have each night. =\


    Well first off, were you seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist. Also what orientation? Psychiatrists? There for the drugs. Certain disorders etc need medications to stave off hallucinations etc. However they are never meant to be a "cure". They will help a bit, possibly making one more lucid, or able to cope. But they are not the be all end all long term solution that many make them out to be. Regular psychotherapy is probably your best bet. Identify dysfunctional cognitions, and working to change them, etc.

Best bet I'd say with what you described would be if you are on meds to see a psychologist. They'll help you by providing coping strategies etc.

    Now as far as your profile goes (as you were wondering whether you have a post-it on your head that says you have issues, you do not, but your profile points it out quite readily), for one, you're going incredibly specific, and I'd imagine looking almost the worst place you can. I suppose it could be likened to going to the chinese gay porn awards and looking for a single straight man over 6 feet tall who has never had sex wants to get married, is a financially independent ($$$$$$), speedo model physicist. I refer of course to your specifications down in your journal entry. I don't say this to be cruel, but be realistic. Look at your specifications. I mean really look. Where would be the right place to find someone like that? Well for starters, you're looking for christians. Not too difficult of a specification. Can find those anywhere. But a virgin between 23-35, so that cuts the field a bit. It also narrows where you should look. A bdsm site if we compiled everyone on the site, that is actually real, and whether they have had sex or not and did some basic statistical calculations on it.....well I'm going to venture an educated guess this is not where you would look for those. What I would suggest? Go to a church, and get involved with their events. You're more likely to find a devout , christian, straight male, who is a virgin (at least towards the earlier portion of the age range), and fits most of your specifications there. I'm not saying you won't find it in either place. But you go with the odds. Odds seem to be you're looking at maybe a 1% chance v a 10% (arbitrary numbers, but you get the point). This part is not really a sign of issues at all. So you're looking for something specific, but the specificness combined with where you are looking may cause people to *boggle*. Probably accounting for a portion of the messages you mentioned. But the real problem that you are probably having is simply you list them as if they are set in stone. For example what if you find someone that meets all of the specifications except one. Or most of them even. Say they aren't tall, and aren't a virgin, but are all the other things? You're probably better off explaining that. That way, while you may not find someone to those complete specifications, you may in fact find someone that works for you.

To point out where I see definitive "issue" indicators:
"a princess, or a damsel-in-distress"
Words like these have caused many a man who has had the experience of dealing with people in relationships who describe themselves thusly...to run in the opposite direction as far and fast as they can. It's a sign of someone who wants to be rescued. Someone who wants someone to fix them. Someone who wants someone else to do all the work, and just expects someone to rush in and save them from all the things that while it would be in their power to change, just won't do it themselves for whatever reason.

Truth is, no one is going to save you. White knights don't exist in a universe where everything is shades of gray.
Life isn't a fairytale. Never will be. It sucks when you first realize that. But you have to nonetheless. I'm not saying love doesn't exist. It does, but it never has, and never will be easy. That's the thing about fairytales. They never deal with the nitty gritty of everyday life. There is no happily ever after. One has to make it for themselves.Because no one is going to do it for you.

Also this:
(I’ve been through quite a lot of heartache and trauma in my life so far).
Uhhh....that's a pretty fair indicator combined with the other things you say in your profile that you have baggage. Quite a bit of it. Sure everyone does, absolutely every person on the face of the earth has some. But the fact that you come out on your profile and say that, leads one to the probably correct assumption that you have not dealt very well with it and there is a considerable amount. I'd say just get rid of that line, and look into therapy to help you deal with such baggage.




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