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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/2/2007 3:28:26 PM   
CatKnight


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The warm up is important, I think.  Starting lightly, then slowly revving up gives the body time to adjust, and endorphins time to start flowing and kicking in.  I hadn't heard of revving up, backing down, and revving up again allowing for more endorphins to kick in.  I'll have to try that.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/2/2007 10:09:07 PM   
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Some can learn, some automatically do, and some never will.

After 9 years, several sadists and countless tops of all shades- it's just how I work, I'm not a masochist, pain is pain to me.  I'm not totally closed to the idea of my body chemistry suddenly changing, but it's pretty darn unlikely and I've no real desire to change.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/3/2007 1:30:25 AM   
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I don't know that it's necessarily all about endorphins.

Endorphins take a while to build up, and I have recently come to realize that I often enjoy receiving pain even without a warm-up. In fact, I crave it.

There's no question that it is, indeed, painful. But at the same time that I feel searing pain I also feel...something I can only describe as sexual stimulation, although that's not quite it, since usually the pain is administered on a part of my body other than my pussy...but my body interprets the sensation partly as sexual pleasure. I wish I could put it into words better.

I did not realize this at first...I thought I submitted to some kinds of pain just because it pleased my Master. I won't re-write that story here though; if you want to read it, you can check out this blog entry:

Sweet Waves of Pain

Bottom line, I'm pretty sure either endorphins (or possibly an altered mental state similar to meditation?) have been involved when I've "flown" (entered a submissive pleasure trance). But I, personally, don't have to be flying to enjoy pain, even fairly intense pain.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/3/2007 3:22:46 AM   
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i am definately masochistic and enjoy a nice painful play session. its almost like a release...

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/3/2007 10:06:48 PM   
WildHR


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I came on to this site initially because I do find that pain can be very pleasurable. My dom believes pain should be inflicted when I am bad and do not please him.  I would never deliberately do anything to displease him, though.
Still, hair pulling, spanking, and clips (of all sorts) can make me feel - well, sort of turned on. Thus far I have not experienced cane or riding crop.
I would never be cut or burned by my dom.

I know that there are many subs who can't see the pleasure of pain. I almost pity those subs. 

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/3/2007 10:23:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WildHR

I came on to this site initially because I do find that pain can be very pleasurable. My dom believes pain should be inflicted when I am bad and do not please him.  I would never deliberately do anything to displease him, though.
Still, hair pulling, spanking, and clips (of all sorts) can make me feel - well, sort of turned on. Thus far I have not experienced cane or riding crop.
I would never be cut or burned by my dom.

I know that there are many subs who can't see the pleasure of pain. I almost pity those subs. 


I firmly believe physical punishment should be reserved for rewards or when you aren't actuallly that upset with your girl. Consistency is important, if you're going to use physical punishment to show you're upset or to discipline the girl, be wary of using the same elements as a reward or regular part of play.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/4/2007 11:55:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Littlepita
This usually happens with really intense scenes where there is a lot of pain involved. Eventually my body becomes somewhat desensitized to the pain and starts responding with pleasure.


this is how i feel it.  Starting out with a little spanking.. moving to crop or flogger.. then get the cane going and i'm in la la land.  It hurts of course but cuz it's more numb then anything, the vibrations through out my body just always end up in one place.. then i'm a really happy subbie!!!! :)

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/4/2007 5:17:32 PM   
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...being a sub/slave masochist myself with severe control kinks, i love the pain to please Her in particular and when bound and helpless......and then it surfs between pleasure and genuine hurt oftentimes--- but with me its not just pain per se but my acceptance of it to buttress and reinforce Her dominance and my submission and pleasing of Her.....= strong pscyhol. connections there so.....

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/4/2007 9:57:25 PM   
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Everyone Is Different
I love Pain it helps me feel better when ever i am down
Being the Masochist and Having a Sadist help me feel pain Is safer then inflicting the pain on myself in a way if you know what i am talking about.
Pain does not hurt me it comforts me
But there are some her hurt when they feel pain
So i hope this helps you with your ?s
 
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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/5/2007 6:38:47 AM   
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i wouldnt know about that to me you are either a pain slut or your not but some spanking can be increditable turning on as for tattooing i found out the hard way *winks* that tattooing can be extremely pleasurable

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/5/2007 6:03:18 PM   
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as Master's slave it is my duty to do all that  i can to give Him pleasure, and i'll tell Y/you that nothing gives Master more pleasure than to hear me beg....Please Master i need pain, i need You to hurt me and then the rush He feels as i climax hard from the pain. i would have agreed with all those who are not pain sluts a year ago but i have been trained to enjoy it , it is the chemical rush in the body that does it for me but the biggest part is the look of absolute lust in Master's eyes when He sees me enjoying it.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/5/2007 7:45:59 PM   
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My Dom is the same way, not wanting to hurt me. But he does know how to push my limits . Anyways, today i thought that clothespins would hurt. Yes they did but only for a little bit but i enjoyed it a lot. This one example of how i can turn pain into pleasure. It is the endorphins that race through you and also partial adrenaline, well for me anyways.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/7/2007 8:30:26 AM   
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I hated pain and never thought that would change. I'm still not a pain slut and doubt I ever will be but I do enjoy some pain. I have to be in a deep submissive state first though. I even decided I wanted him to use a flogger on me which I was so totally against. We ordered a deerskin one but haven't recieved it yet. I'm excited but scared also. Not sure I can handle it but I want to for him. He says I keep surprising him all the time and I would say I'm surprising myself also. Six months ago I didn't think I would want to call him Sir or wear his colllar but I am. I've learned to never say never since being with him.

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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/7/2007 11:08:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: denika

I am a pain slut, and I will be the first to say pain hurts! it's the why and how you are taking it, there are some sensations that to me aren't perceived as pain but to others it is.  I bottom to a sadist and it gives him  pleasure to cause me pain, that I can give him that gift, that intimate part of myself brings me joy and pleasure. Do I like it when  he flogs me, oh hell yes.. Do I like it when he uses a metal paddle on me like a can opener.. oh hell no but I want to take it, I want to push my limits so he can paint my skin with pain.   It is my act of submition to stand infront of him because I know he is going to hurt me, not harm me but make me scream until I can't remember my name. It's the reasons behind the pain and the expereince that you can come thru it, that you can share that with him. Again it is definatly not for everyone.

does that help?

denika


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RE: Pain into Pleasure - 10/7/2007 11:12:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster


I firmly believe physical punishment should be reserved for rewards or when you aren't actuallly that upset with your girl. Consistency is important, if you're going to use physical punishment to show you're upset or to discipline the girl, be wary of using the same elements as a reward or regular part of play.



MyyOwn punishes me by not allowing me to feel his pain.

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